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eronald

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« on: March 16, 2009, 04:55:18 pm »

I have a model release, and can make some D3x  images available, including full-length.
From the resolution/detail point of view we're clearly n the same territory as a DB.

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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2009, 06:49:02 pm »

So post 'em.

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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2009, 07:15:33 pm »

So does this mean that you're not coming to Toronto?  
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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2009, 07:21:34 pm »

Edmund,
Post them first and then go to Toronto.  
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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2009, 07:26:04 pm »

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Edmund,
Post them first and then go to Toronto.  
Eduardo
https://rcpt.yousendit.com/664563507/d74bd6...ac86dfa87af1701

Taken in Jpeg fine, some pimples on the face retouched. Sharpening set +1 from standard in camera which is a bit oversharpened for screen view, but I cropped a bit and printed straight across 44" to my Epson 9600 from this and handed the sitter the poster. I couldn't even imagine that one could print a poster from a Jpeg ...

Update: I think it's pretty obvious that we're in DB territory here regarding resolution - I have a P45+ so I'm quite familiar with medium quality backs; regarding color retouchability and file "thickness" we're not quite there yet - however DB's don't give you cookie-cutter printable Jpegs ....

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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2009, 07:45:57 pm »

Looks pretty smeared to me, very digital. Any chance we could see the NEF (if there is one)?
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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2009, 07:58:18 pm »

Here's yet another -resharpened- 400 ISO Jpeg image, full and 100%crop. I apologize for the oversharpening, but I like to print from this type of oversharpened file. The noise is exagerated by the sharpening.


ISO 400; 1/1000; F4. 180mm F2.8 lens - sharp but always very harsh.

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I can provide some NEFs, but I'm not sure I have any from this batch of images. I'll look at the disk tomorrow;
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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2009, 09:07:40 pm »

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https://rcpt.yousendit.com/664563507/d74bd6...ac86dfa87af1701

Taken in Jpeg fine, some pimples on the face retouched. Sharpening set +1 from standard in camera which is a bit oversharpened for screen view, but I cropped a bit and printed straight across 44" to my Epson 9600 from this and handed the sitter the poster. I couldn't even imagine that one could print a poster from a Jpeg ...

Update: I think it's pretty obvious that we're in DB territory here regarding resolution - I have a P45+ so I'm quite familiar with medium quality backs; regarding color retouchability and file "thickness" we're not quite there yet - however DB's don't give you cookie-cutter printable Jpegs ....

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Edmund,
Is the purpose of the above shot to demonstrate the in-camera jpeg processing capability of the D3X or the DR capability of the camera at ISO 400? Having downloaded the image, I see a lot of 0,0,0 values, especially around the lady's boots, but also elswhere in the darker shadows. Also, there's a large highlight patch on the lady's forehead which seems to have a lot of blown red pixels.

I think you would have got better results shooting RAW with this scene.
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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2009, 12:49:28 am »

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Edmund,
Is the purpose of the above shot to demonstrate the in-camera jpeg processing capability of the D3X or the DR capability of the camera at ISO 400? Having downloaded the image, I see a lot of 0,0,0 values, especially around the lady's boots, but also elswhere in the darker shadows. Also, there's a large highlight patch on the lady's forehead which seems to have a lot of blown red pixels.

I think you would have got better results shooting RAW with this scene.


Ray,

 As regards blowouts, I have been shooting Raw so long that I forgot to use powder on this *test* image. I did another batch of images with makeup to solve the nose, forehead, and cheekbone issue. I think transparency film would have blown out too. If you want I can post an image from the other batch, it shows how the camera renders the makeup, rather than skin.

 Speaking as someone who has published a few but not that many fashion images, I would say that I quite like the Jpeg that can be viewed in this thread (not the downloadable one), it is punchy and has nice colors. I would definitely show this to a local designer as an example of the sort of imagery I can generate for them at very low cost in a few hours, and can print out as a poster if they need that. It's obvious that any commissioned shoot would have makeup and a "real" model, some flll light from a reflector, and ... nicer clothes. I used to make images for a local fashion school, and this type of imagery was quite good enough for the students.

 The purpose of this posting is to show what come out of the camera at ISO 400 as a Jpeg. It's far from perfect, but I made a poster sized print from one of the images of this batch without needing to do any curves or extensive color correction. Not perfect, but good enough to be useful. Which is just about what the reputation if 35mm has always been. And my own reputation too, I think

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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2009, 03:47:06 am »

Hi Edmund,

That's a good shot for a test, after all, what would be the point if the light were perfect ?

Thanks for posting it.

From my own tests with the D3x, and some comments from others, It looks too me like there's some sharpening going on even if it's not set for the Jpeg.

It's hard to say, because I STILL haven't seen my raws, but all the Jpegs (large-fine)  I shot in a studio environment have a slightly strange look in the hair.

I'm comparing the files to my DsIII's, but because I only have primes for my Canons and was only loaned zooms for the Nikon it was impossible to do direct, side by side shots.

Are you seeing anything like that in the processing ?


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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2009, 07:56:18 am »

Hi Edmund and David,

I noticed this test with the D3x by Marcus Bell. Using Jpeg Large Fine at ISO200. Based on his comments within the page it's unclear if he was shooting 12 or 14 bit. They results look impressive, particularly for a Jpeg with no post processing. As always, I would think RAW well handled would be optimal.

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« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2009, 01:16:50 pm »

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Hi Edmund and David,

I noticed this test with the D3x by Marcus Bell. Using Jpeg Large Fine at ISO200. Based on his comments within the page it's unclear if he was shooting 12 or 14 bit. They results look impressive, particularly for a Jpeg with no post processing. As always, I would think RAW well handled would be optimal.

Studio Impressions Blog

Take a look.

And why is there so much fuzz about this camera ? I haven't seen one single image I could not have shot with a 1DsMk3, 5DII or a900..  So far I have seen nothing really special so far in any image shot by a D3x. In my eyes it is not better or worse than the competition, just to expensive...
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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2009, 03:58:12 pm »

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And why is there so much fuzz about this camera ? I haven't seen one single image I could not have shot with a 1DsMk3, 5DII or a900..  So far I have seen nothing really special so far in any image shot by a D3x. In my eyes it is not better or worse than the competition, just to expensive...

Actually, this camera does ONE thing which the competition's doesn't do as well: Focus.

The D3x has a fully specced pro-style AF, and it really delivers.

For the rest, I leave you to pixel-peep the NEF I posted.

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