Anyone else ever have this problem?

[KevinA]

I need to know if anyone else has had this problem and what it was diagnosed as. I know shutter springs to mind, but I would like someone to show me a similar or same effect and say for certain what the cause was.

Thanks,

Kevin.

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[KevinA]

Hard to tell without a little info, camera, lens, anything pertinent. Looks like auto bracketing is on.

I can't think auto bracketing will give you dark bands and a dark top left corner, camera or lens info will make no difference.

Kevin.

[Lisa Nikodym]

When I've gotten dark regions in the corners, it's usually because my lens hood wasn't on straight, i.e. it was rotated somewhat from the correct "locked" position for shooting.    Another similar cause could be having too many filters or overly thick filters.  Could one of those be (at least part of) your problem?

Lisa

[DarkPenguin]

When I've gotten dark regions in the corners, it's usually because my lens hood wasn't on straight, i.e. it was rotated somewhat from the correct "locked" position for shooting.    Another similar cause could be having too many filters or overly thick filters.  Could one of those be (at least part of) your problem?

Lisa

I've seen this with a crooked lens hood, too.

[Wayne Fox]

Possible it isn't even a camera problem?  Looks like someone trying to shoot through window in an airplane and something got in the way.  Is every shot like that?

Some more examples and camera info would certainly help.

[Panopeeper]

This post takes one of the top places. I have yet to see an another one posing a problem without mentioning anything related to the problem, actually not even the perceived problem.

It reminds me the complains of PC users "it is not doing what I am expecting".

[KevinA]

This post takes one of the top places. I have yet to see an another one posing a problem without mentioning anything related to the problem, actually not even the perceived problem.

It reminds me the complains of PC users "it is not doing what I am expecting".

Well it isn't a perceived problem. I was looking for someone that had had the same failure. If you had this you would recognise it. A lens hood or obstruction it is not, the camera or lens used is not a factor in determining the cause. I deliberately have not mentioned camera type to keep it simple and decrease the likelihood of bias or their service sucks posts. If anyone has had this problem they would know and that's who I need to communicate with, all opinions and ideas are welcome, I have many of my own. Someone that has had the same symptoms of failure will be more use to me, I need to have a good idea of the actual cause of this not guess work. Hence the title of the thread, not "can you guess at a likely cause". Everyone is welcome to guess but first hand experiance is really what I need, I can see the potential of a costly argument arising and I need some facts. And yes it is not doing what I am expecting, after over 30 years of professional shooting I come to expect certain things and dark horizontal stripes is not one of them.

Kevin.

[KevinA]

Possible it isn't even a camera problem?  Looks like someone trying to shoot through window in an airplane and something got in the way.  Is every shot like that?

Some more examples and camera info would certainly help.

No question about it not being a camera problem, (no door on the helicopter) the dark banding at the bottom and top left are the problem. To me the reason is obvious but I feel an argument arising that might get costly. As I am not a technician i was hoping to hear from someone that has had the same symptoms, I doubt this is unique to me, nor do I think it common. A few minutes looking would rule out lenshood or filters or skew mounted lens etc.
I would now certainly recognise the problem if I saw it in other pictures.

Kevin

[joedevico]

No question about it not being a camera problem, (no door on the helicopter) the dark banding at the bottom and top left are the problem. To me the reason is obvious but I feel an argument arising that might get costly. As I am not a technician i was hoping to hear from someone that has had the same symptoms, I doubt this is unique to me, nor do I think it common. A few minutes looking would rule out lenshood or filters or skew mounted lens etc.
I would now certainly recognise the problem if I saw it in other pictures.

Kevin

Maybe it was a bad batch of film???  

Seriously, you may not want the bashing of camera manufacturers, however, even some information is better than none. If you're using a point and shoot I'd suggest it's very similar to an overheating issue I was having with my G9...however, unlike your previous suppositions, my problem was extemely isolated to my circumstance. I also might point you to a problem with that particular lens, but I know that lens works really well in helicopters and usually only has problems in SUVs.

Sorry for the ribbing, but you are assuming a camera failure, without first telling us you've ruled out other problems. and of course without the other pertinent information, online diagnosis is quite challenging.

joe

[bavanor]

there doesn't seem to be a problem except for some annoying clouds getting in the way of the sun and casting dark shadows on the ground.  After looking at the images that is the problem I see.  Clouds casting dark shadows on the ground which you are assuming is a camera problem.

That's my take at least,
Aaron

[KevinA]

OK It's a 1DsmkII, it had a shutter replaced, within a couple of weeks after the repair it started putting a dark line along the bottom, if high shutter speeds are used I get the clipped top left corner and light and dark banding mostly towards the bottom but also across the middle to a lesser degree. The guy that did the repair started off by saying he does not think it's the new shutter (he fitted) maybe it is maybe it isn't. It did not do this before he had it, but I could sense a tone of 'not my fault".
I had hoped the problem would be recognised here, if you have had this effect you would instantly recognise it and realise it is not a lens hood, cloud or any other suggestions put forward so far. I suspect when whatever is happening happens it would be the same on any modern camera lens combination.
I think it is the shutter, I just hoped I would get a reply saying "Yup it happened to me, it was X". Now you all have the information you are sure you need, the answer is ?

Kevin.

[Derryck]

Hi Kevin,

I don't know if you read the topic that I recently posted but I was having similar issues although much clearer than yours and found that it was indeed the shutter as many people had suggested. Apart from rotor blades and unfortunate shading by the clouds it looks like you have the same problem.

http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index....showtopic=28418

Regards,

Derryck.

[KevinA]

Hi Kevin,

I don't know if you read the topic that I recently posted but I was having similar issues although much clearer than yours and found that it was indeed the shutter as many people had suggested. Apart from rotor blades and unfortunate shading by the clouds it looks like you have the same problem.

http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index....showtopic=28418

Regards,

Derryck.

Thanks Derryck,
That looks very similar to the original problem I had when I took it in to get the shutter fixed, this is much worse, maybe the samples don't show it. I've been shooting nearly every week for the past 15 years from a helicopter, I know how rotors, clouds, airframe looks, most of the dark aeras are not clouds. I do wonder about the quoted life of these shutters, my brother had one fail in less than 20,000, my original lasted about 100,000 (the new one about 100) all well short of the expected. I'm now shooting with an smkIII, I will keep an eye on that for shutter failure. Thank goodness I have a Kodak SLR/n as backup to the backup.

Thanks,

Kevin.

[Wayne Fox]

This could be related to the shutter, but to be honest it looks odd. I'm not sure why the vignette effect.  In that particular camera I would also expect the band across the bottom to cover the entire image.

Perhaps when the shutter was installed some other problem was created, such as the mirror assembly catching or dragging, or perhaps bouncing?  You might try shooting an evenly lit gray card to see exactly what is going on, then show that to the person who worked on the shutter.  It certainly looks as though something is amiss from that repair.

I've seen lots of shutter problems over the years, but never one just like this.

Good luck.

[Nill Toulme]

The 1DsMkII has had an unusually high rate of early shutter failure, and Canon is usually pretty good about fixing it for the minimum labor charge only.  I think the same is true of the 1DMkIIN.  (It's certainly been the case with my personal experience of those two cameras.)

Nill

[Philscbx]

You might try shooting an evenly lit gray card
Good luck.

I'm with Wayne on this one.
I have the same camera. Or I wouldn't be here.