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« Reply #1040 on: July 02, 2009, 12:02:29 pm »

Well you're right I never saw a model against a white background.......

PLEASE grow up or at least behave mature on a pro forum....
This is such a shame of the bandwidth.
You make great shots please also behave like it.

There is NOTHING that hasn't already been done.
There is NO photographer that isn't inspired by others work.

But when you shoot on a certain location and then behave like a total idiot because some else used the same SORT of location without knowing you that's downright weird....
By the way, I thought I mailed you many years ago some photographers from the 70's that also shot on junkyards and that were my inspirition I told you then and I will tell you know I never ever heard of you before that argument, heck I had to google your site because you did not have the courtecy to sign the mails with your website at the start I did not even knew on which photographs you were angry.

Snook, we have know each other online for a long time.
I've always handled you with respect and commented and gave answers always without any form of grudge against you.
However you're always bitching about something, but clinging to the photographers you think are great and real pros in your eye.
Please try to behave normally, it would really benefit the forum and keep the atmosphere nice and friendly as it should.

Again I always try to behave natural and nice but sometimes also my patience is gone
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« Reply #1041 on: July 02, 2009, 12:09:17 pm »

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Beautiful model. Nice clean images. And I like a bit of yellow in the background left. I makes the difference.

Thanks, she is 15 years old and was her first job for a client. Took a while to get her to loosen up but she has a natural rapour.

Frank don't get all bent out of shape.. just pushing the buttons a little...
It was getting boring around here...LOL

Snook
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« Reply #1042 on: July 02, 2009, 12:22:17 pm »

Try then not to push the post button, keep a diary or something.
Don't do to others what you don't want done to yourself.....
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« Reply #1043 on: July 02, 2009, 12:26:30 pm »

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Thanks, she is 15 years old and was her first job for a client. Took a while to get her to loosen up but she has a natural rapour.

Frank don't get all bent out of shape.. just pushing the buttons a little...
It was getting boring around here...LOL

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 Come on Snook, talk about pushing buttons, I just posted some old car shots and even said my favorite lens was that old 50mm f/1.9 and I don't even get any comments from you.
I'm so disappointed I'm not being accused of stealing your vision!!
Why do you think I posted those shots!!
BTW, I actually thought your were just doing a little Frank button pushing in jest, but it really does come across as mean spirited sometimes.

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« Reply #1044 on: July 02, 2009, 01:01:40 pm »

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Come on Snook, talk about pushing buttons, I just posted some old car shots and even said my favorite lens was that old 50mm f/1.9 and I don't even get any comments from you.
I'm so disappointed I'm not being accused of stealing your vision!!
Why do you think I posted those shots!!
BTW, I actually thought your were just doing a little Frank button pushing in jest, but it really does come across as mean spirited sometimes.

Bruce

Bruce, mine were with the 80 1.9  @ 1.9 (wide open) that is why...LOL

Nice shot's by the way...:+} But stop copying me..hahaha

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« Reply #1045 on: July 02, 2009, 01:03:37 pm »

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Thanks, she is 15 years old and was her first job for a client.
Snook

15!!! I'd never guessed.

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« Reply #1046 on: July 02, 2009, 01:04:29 pm »

Snook,

I once photographed some guy wearing sunglasses, so you are obviously blatantly copying me! Please cease and desist!   

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« Reply #1047 on: July 02, 2009, 01:10:58 pm »

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Snook,

I once photographed some guy wearing sunglasses, so you are obviously blatantly copying me! Please cease and desist! 

Eric it comes from a junk yard series a LONG time ago , just some how pops up and reminds me.
There is a difference between inspiration and copying.. quite a difference.
By the way not sure if you know but there is an ignore button which will not let you see my comments if they bother so much.
Just close your eyes and Press it.. It won't hurt a bit.

Look at this photographer, remind you of someone from this forum..?

http://www.carlosserrao.com/


I will give you credit for the glasses in my next shoot with glasses. Just EricM for the credit..
actually here is the credit:
Thanks
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« Reply #1048 on: July 02, 2009, 01:13:28 pm »

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Bruce, mine were with the 80 1.9  @ 1.9 (wide open) that is why...LOL

Nice shot's by the way...:+} But stop copying me..hahaha

Snook
Snook, your are so right, I did mean the 80 1.9. I don't think they have a 50 1.9 for the Mamiya!
Ok, I'm off to the studio. Time to start shooting girls on white, or .....................in a junkyard.

Bruce
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« Reply #1049 on: July 02, 2009, 03:00:52 pm »

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I will give you credit for the glasses in my next shoot with glasses. Just EricM for the credit..
actually here is the credit:
Thanks
[attachment=15064:NGX_51383_T_D_EM.jpg]


Snook
Thanks for the credit, Snook.

Of course, you should really give me credit for the "EricM" idea as well...   


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« Reply #1050 on: July 03, 2009, 06:26:06 pm »

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Look at this photographer, remind you of someone from this forum..?

http://www.carlosserrao.com/


Snook


Serrao's work is very nice!

Let me rephrase that....

Serrao's work is VERY NICE!!! (impactful, timeless,)
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« Reply #1051 on: July 03, 2009, 06:34:29 pm »


These are nice. Not WOW, or BAM, In your face!, or MONEY (Like some I have seen of yours)!...But rather clean straight forward commercial work that should get you jobs. Good stuff!  At least its in the right direction post :-)
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« Reply #1052 on: July 03, 2009, 09:29:02 pm »

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Serrao's work is very nice!

His work is not only nice it is amazing.. James Russells used to try and copy a lot of his work, specially when he did the Olympic/Osaka type stuff. The idea came from Serraos works for sure.Only Serraoes retocuhing is on another level. Never over done in my mind.. Just right on the money.
He is a master up there with Nick Knight in my mind.
These guys are just on another planet..
Not only nice but masterly..:+}

Snook

And one of the hottest photographers at the moment in case you did not see his work.

http://www.eugeniorecuenco.com/

another genius!
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« Reply #1053 on: July 04, 2009, 09:19:54 pm »

Snook, That guy's fantastic!  Different and prolific, where do you think the locations are?  Jim
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« Reply #1054 on: July 05, 2009, 04:35:37 am »

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Snook, That guy's fantastic!  Different and prolific, where do you think the locations are?  Jim



The Bull. The trademark of Osborne. There are several scattered around Spain. You need copyright clearance to use them.

The photographer: compare with the here-flaunted values of the Levi thing and tell me Levi is worth linking, thinking and praising. For me it represents the void between European imagination and SOME American. The chasm between class and crass; Rita Hayworth and Pammy spring to my mind and both are glamour?

If you go to Recuenco´s Spanish agent you will find a host of very talented people.

An illustration of why I think I was right to sail quietly off into the sunset; never, in a zillion years could I have made it happen. How many here could, I wonder?

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« Reply #1055 on: July 05, 2009, 05:09:08 am »

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The Bull. The trademark of Osborne. There are several scattered around Spain. You need copyright clearance to use them.

Yeah, you can see those large bulls by the roadside everywhere in Spain, except Catalunya...

I highly doubt that it's protected. The bull used to be trademarked in Spain, but it was appropriated by the public, and became a national symbol years ago. If a trademark is not used and defended, it loses its protection. That why Xerox occasionally posts full-page informational "ads" explaining "xeroxing" is not appropriate use of the word.

But IANAL, and I don't know the specific laws in Spain or EU.

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« Reply #1056 on: July 05, 2009, 05:39:12 am »

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Yeah, you can see those large bulls by the roadside everywhere in Spain, except Catalunya...

I highly doubt that it's protected. The bull used to be trademarked in Spain, but it was appropriated by the public, and became a national symbol years ago. If a trademark is not used and defended, it loses its protection. That why Xerox occasionally posts full-page informational "ads" explaining "xeroxing" is not appropriate use of the word.

But IANAL, and I don't know the specific laws in Spain or EU.




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You may be right, but the copyright (protection of the concept as a symbol of a product range) aspect of the bull thing was referred to here in Spain quite recently and that´s where I picked up on the payment-to-use issue, but I can´t remember the context so I can´t argue the result, only my memory of how it panned out. It is a trademark very much used by them, so I´d be surprised if they were lax in holding or protecting its value.

Anyhow, the value of Recuenco´s work derives, in my opinion, from an inescapable legacy of European religion, aristocracy and sophistication all thrown into a delightful mix of decadence and guilt. It´s the secret behind Federico Fellini, Sarah Moon, Marino Parisotto Vay and a host of exciting others. You just can´t fake it: you recognize and can empathise or you cannot, and it has nothing to do with your personal status either - it´s more basic than that and is about soul, not about how rich you are.

But jeez, what will happen to that stuff if all we are going to get is what the pundits here project: advertising exposure only on youtube or in the margins of Google... without printed copy or even TV or cinema commercial space, how will one ever appreciate it - or why would one pay to make it?

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« Reply #1057 on: July 05, 2009, 08:49:29 am »

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Anyhow, the value of Recuenco´s work derives, in my opinion, from an inescapable legacy of European religion, aristocracy and sophistication all thrown into a delightful mix of decadence and guilt. It´s the secret behind Federico Fellini, Sarah Moon, Marino Parisotto Vay and a host of exciting others. You just can´t fake it: you recognize and can empathise or you cannot, and it has nothing to do with your personal status either - it´s more basic than that and is about soul, not about how rich you are.

But jeez, what will happen to that stuff if all we are going to get is what the pundits here project: advertising exposure only on youtube or in the margins of Google... without printed copy or even TV or cinema commercial space, how will one ever appreciate it - or why would one pay to make it?

Rob C

While there is no such thing as a uniform, or even a collective European "religion, aristocracy and sophistication," I agree Recuenco's work is impressive and engaging. I hadn't heard of him before, but those photos will stay with me much longer than the over-produced "art" photography out there, or even worse, the art photography which considers beauty an abomination.

His use of television aspect ratio and the interlacing artifacts are a nice touch. I wonder if he shot on 8mm video film. I'm not at all convinced with his ability to actually tell a story - which he clearly strives for -, but the photos stand on their own even in web format.

Your last paragraph is indeed puzzling. Rather than monetizing my moderate photographic skills by restricting access to my photos, doing paid assignments or giving workshops. I support myself financially outside photography, so it's probably not an option for most photographers here, though.

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« Reply #1058 on: July 05, 2009, 10:54:19 am »

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"While there is no such thing as a uniform, or even a collective European "religion, aristocracy and sophistication," I agree Recuenco's work is impressive and engaging."

1. I don´t agree there at all: there is strong Catholic influence underwriting most of Latin European culture and a Protestant ethic in the more northern areas. The fact that so much reference comes from religious art - what else was there? - can be seen quite clearly, in my opinion. It flows through painting, and if you can understand Recuenco´s interviews, his principal infuence is painting and the study he claims to have made of light within painting.

You get similar cultural references in Dolce Vita and other movies of the genre where the last remnants of both the Roman black princes (via the church), the empty (even then) glitz of Hollywood and the all-pervasive visual influence of American cars gell into a modern version of days gone past. Venice and its palaces, its Carnival, all those things are part of a homogenous cultural ethic that is totally European and never American. It can´t be: there was no such history in the new country and by the time the Europeans moved in it was already in decline in Europe, which it has been doing ever since but still lingers on resolutely in one manifestation or another. That so much political intermarriage was the norm is also why there is a pan-European history of what became a common aristocratric mix. Our British lot is partly German - it never ends; they should never breed: they are all related.


"I hadn't heard of him before, but those photos will stay with me much longer than the over-produced "art" photography out there, or even worse, the art photography which considers beauty an abomination."

Have you watches the films on his site? Production values are what people make them, I guess, and one of the huge dividing lines between photographers of one generation and the newer one.

"Your last paragraph is indeed puzzling. Rather than monetizing my moderate photographic skills by restricting access to my photos, doing paid assignments or giving workshops. I support myself financially outside photography, so it's probably not an option for most photographers here, though."


Puzzling - why? What I´m saying is simply that if things continue to follow the line that gurus here declare, that everything is going to end up on a LCD, there will be little incentive for clients to spend megabucks for something that ends up 72ppi. Then, were the gurus right, your question about shooting on 8mm might make sense in a way you hadn´t considered. I think they are mistaken, however, because the world of fantasy that is cosmetics, fashion and aspirational buying of any kind depends on the product being seen to be fantastically ultra than the everyday. Further, do women waste as much time on the web as do men? Take a measure of the female interest here, for a start: pretty invisible, and other than kids doing homework, not all of them can be accused of spending all day at the screen. As has been noted, big spend advertising still keeps Vogue and the like afloat even if the lesser, more downmarket kinds fail. Cinemas and TV still have a lot of mileage left, I´d guess.

I don´t think the rainforests can breathe easy yet either!

Rob C


Edit: Can anybody tell me why the top part of this post has become detached and presented as a separate entity? It was all one post.
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« Reply #1059 on: July 05, 2009, 12:27:22 pm »

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Further, do women waste as much time on the web as do men? Take a measure of the female interest here, for a start: pretty invisible, and other than kids doing homework, not all of them can be accused of spending all day at the screen.
You forgot about Facebook, Myspace, Livejournal, etc. Thats where most go, not to Luminous-Landscape  
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