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« Reply #900 on: May 23, 2009, 04:40:59 pm »


Graham, Very nice!!!
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« Reply #901 on: May 23, 2009, 04:52:41 pm »

Graham, Jim, David
All excellent shots and all very different!  Thanks for sharing!

Graham - really like your lighting on these
David - the shot angle and toning work very well together to create the feel of this image
Jim - well done - you make these cars and places come alive

Regards,
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« Reply #902 on: May 24, 2009, 02:53:19 am »

For the people who like it I've just uploaded a small video on www.youtube.com/frankdoorhof we shot during the shoot with the new Elinchrom Quadra yesterday.
Make sure you watch it in HQ.

Photos were done of course with a MF camera

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« Reply #903 on: May 24, 2009, 05:10:55 am »

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For the people who like it I've just uploaded a small video on www.youtube.com/frankdoorhof we shot during the shoot with the new Elinchrom Quadra yesterday.
Make sure you watch it in HQ.

Photos were done of course with a MF camera

Nice video and promo!
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« Reply #904 on: May 24, 2009, 05:48:26 am »

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Indeed.
Not that we need it, but here is one of Greg Kadel's stories for German Vogue shot with MF and a Canon, all mixed up together...

http://www.gregkadelstudios.com/women/sets...oni/middle.html

And here's another one, for Numero:
http://www.gregkadelstudios.com/women/sets...rid/middle.html

Now, look in the magazine (I have both issues) and there is no inkling as to which cameras were used for which pages. They all look great, IMO.

Hi Lisa.

I agree, it is great looking work and it is not immediately appearant which images are shot on the P45+ and which ones on the Canon 1ds III. But you can right click on the images, save them to your desktop, open them in Photoshop, hit file info and see the EXIF data. Camera, aperture, shutter speed, shootdate and (for the Canon) focal length. Because there is no camera info with the P45+ I can only know for sure that he does not use a Contax 645 :-)

...or just enjoy these great looking images.

Best regards
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« Reply #905 on: May 24, 2009, 10:14:27 am »

Yes, that's how you can tell which cameras and lenses were used. And if you are using Vista, you can just right click the jpeg, choose properties and select the details tab ;-)
It looks like he uses the Canon for the wide-angle shots and the back for the longer shots. Anyway, a couple more of mine:
[attachment=13934:IMG_0433.JPG]
[attachment=13935:IMG_0607.JPG]
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« Reply #906 on: May 24, 2009, 04:41:58 pm »

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Yes, that's how you can tell which cameras and lenses were used. And if you are using Vista, you can just right click the jpeg, choose properties and select the details tab ;-)
It looks like he uses the Canon for the wide-angle shots and the back for the longer shots. Anyway, a couple more of mine:
[attachment=13934:IMG_0433.JPG]
[attachment=13935:IMG_0607.JPG]

There is a far more simple way to just look at the proportions 1.33:1 vs. 1.5:1.


Some comments to including dslr images here:

1) Personally I find disappointing to see dslr images here. This has been one of the best threads in this forum and a pleasure to see what high skilled professionals are up to with medium format equipment.

2) More so, this very part of the forum has been truly instrumental in medium format equipment on the internet. Now its title has changed, apparent not acknowledging medium format film. One can ask if its function to be instrumental in medium format is falling apart....

3) As for "large sensor photography", does that include the Sigma Dp1 which has a large sensor? Or is it restricted to MPs for which p&s will soon exceed 20MP?? Or... does it actually refer to larger areas than 36x24mm thus also include scanning backs?

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« Reply #907 on: May 24, 2009, 04:47:15 pm »

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For the people who like it I've just uploaded a small video on www.youtube.com/frankdoorhof we shot during the shoot with the new Elinchrom Quadra yesterday.
Make sure you watch it in HQ.

Photos were done of course with a MF camera

How did you like the Quadras? I have already committed to buy one to use when I don't want the schlep the Ranger. Enough power compared to the Ranger (considering MF usage)?
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« Reply #908 on: May 24, 2009, 04:55:41 pm »

Hi,
We have two in the studio at the moment and I will be testing them the coming week in the field.
When using one head you will have 400Ws which is for most normal work more than enough, with two heads it's a 2:1 ratio so that's less.
If you already own rangers (like me) it's a wonderful addition for all those sessions were you don't need alot of power but just some nice fill in flash.
If you're a strobist photographer shooting with speedlights this will be a super upgrade.
The package itself is really light and small and it carries 4000 flashes on the lowest setting and 150 on full power (4000 seems a bit high to be honest).

I think Elinchrom hit a homerun with the Quadra, pricing is a bit high to get everyone in but again if it fits your style I think you will love them.

You can always drop by and play with them if you want.

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« Reply #909 on: May 24, 2009, 06:37:58 pm »

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I don't think I've seen something like that before. Quite dramatic


Quote from: EricWHiss
Graham, Jim, David
All excellent shots and all very different!  Thanks for sharing!
David - the shot angle and toning work very well together to create the feel of this image
Regards,
Eric

Thank you both, here's another from the same session


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« Reply #910 on: May 25, 2009, 09:52:34 am »

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Some comments to including dslr images here:

1) Personally I find disappointing to see dslr images here. This has been one of the best threads in this forum and a pleasure to see what high skilled professionals are up to with medium format equipment.

2) More so, this very part of the forum has been truly instrumental in medium format equipment on the internet. Now its title has changed, apparent not acknowledging medium format film. One can ask if its function to be instrumental in medium format is falling apart....

3) As for "large sensor photography", does that include the Sigma Dp1 which has a large sensor? Or is it restricted to MPs for which p&s will soon exceed 20MP?? Or... does it actually refer to larger areas than 36x24mm thus also include scanning backs?

I personally find the entire restriction of small/medium/large format only title, complitely pointless.

1) Owning a medium format digital back doesn't mean you are highly skilled... you could simply have the cash for it. I actually have a friend and a client who own MFDBs...
2) + 3) I agree, the specific topic needs to be more specific i.e P45 or greater shots only! If I own an old H10, can I post here? What's the point in that really? If we can post images from scanning backs why we don't accept scanned trannies... Then I often use MFDB and a Dslr for the same subject for various reasons, why should I separate the two in different topics? The resolusion we upload is so low anyway. Also, you ll find dead easy to change Exif data of an image... I really stragle to see any point to all this...
Just some thoughts
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« Reply #911 on: May 25, 2009, 10:10:12 am »

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I personally find the entire restriction of small/medium/large format only title, complitely pointless.

1) Owning a medium format digital back doesn't mean you are highly skilled...

I think it should be a PRO Photographer forum, where you can post stuff from any camera as long as you are good ;-) There could be a facility to vote up or down like they have on the Engadget forums, where if you get enough down votes, you have to go down the minors - which is the non-pro forums. That way the good stuff stays and the bad stuff goes. Because I agree, every pro has various format cameras and it's silly to have to post in various places due to which camera you grabbed at the time. That way it would be merit based, not gear-head based. After all, the gear-head approach means someone like Sabastiao Salgado would for the most part not be allowed to post in this "work you are proud of" thread. Same with Helmut Newton.

p.s. I also think all of this is discussion of what to put where is pretty silly, and everyone should just get back to work...it's all pretty much pro work on this forum already isn't it? I don't see any snapshots of squirrels and cats. Or did I just miss those...
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« Reply #912 on: May 25, 2009, 10:30:33 am »

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I think it should be a PRO Photographer forum, where you can post stuff from any camera as long as you are good ;-) There could be a facility to vote up or down like they have on the Engadget forums, where if you get enough down votes, you have to go down the minors - which is the non-pro forums. That way the good stuff stays and the bad stuff goes. Because I agree, every pro has various format cameras and it's silly to have to post in various places due to which camera you grabbed at the time. That way it would be merit based, not gear-head based. After all, the gear-head approach means someone like Sabastiao Salgado would for the most part not be allowed to post in this "work you are proud of" thread.

p.s. I also think all of this is discussion of what to put where is pretty silly, and everyone should just get back to work...it's all pretty much pro work on this forum already isn't it? I don't see any snapshots of squirrels and cats. Or did I just miss those...


Lisa,

I agree with your point, however this thread is under "Equipment & Techniques", thus focused on the gear. Thus seems should be divided/based on what type of gear so we can find based on that and post questions relating to that.

On other hand... would be terrific if Michael expanded the "Art of Photography" section to perhaps "Art, Advanced and Professional Photography" and with also more subsections to encourage non gear focused posts. Perhaps also moved it to higher in the hierarchy since after all while gear is fun... the photography is what really counts.

Just my 2 added cents...


Plus. Indeed there are amateurs who can shoot just as there are pros who cannot, yet... how to judge it?

Regards
Anders
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« Reply #913 on: May 25, 2009, 11:29:05 am »

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I think it should be a PRO Photographer forum, where you can post stuff from any camera as long as you are good ;-) There could be a facility to vote up or down like they have on the Engadget forums, where if you get enough down votes, you have to go down the minors - which is the non-pro forums. That way the good stuff stays and the bad stuff goes. Because I agree, every pro has various format cameras and it's silly to have to post in various places due to which camera you grabbed at the time. That way it would be merit based, not gear-head based. After all, the gear-head approach means someone like Sabastiao Salgado would for the most part not be allowed to post in this "work you are proud of" thread. Same with Helmut Newton.

p.s. I also think all of this is discussion of what to put where is pretty silly, and everyone should just get back to work...it's all pretty much pro work on this forum already isn't it? I don't see any snapshots of squirrels and cats. Or did I just miss those...

Agreed! There is still the potential for crappy MF stuff to be posted. Anyone remember the Rev from a few months ago and the dozens of shots of his poodle?

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« Reply #914 on: May 25, 2009, 12:25:17 pm »

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Agreed! There is still the potential for crappy MF stuff to be posted. Anyone remember the Rev from a few months ago and the dozens of shots of his poodle?

-J


It's silly stuff like this is  why this section runs off so many good photographers.

All this specific naming tells me is how far removed this specific forum is from the real world.

In fact if this was the real world and you went through a magazine stand (real or virtual) and ripped out every image that was shot with a Canon or Nikon you'd have a dumpster full of photographs representing about 100 million dollars of production a month.

Actually you'd only rip them out  if you could tell the difference.

In the real world, nobody views or commissions a photograph  really cares about the  format of camera or puts the worth of the photograph on the camera brand.  

In days past when we viewed images on a lightbox or on contact sheets, bigger was better, or easier for the client to edit,  but in digital, it's all big on the computer and in Nikon/Canon/Sony land, it's all detailed on the camera lcd.

Go on set, shoot any medium format non tethered, then shoot a Nikon D3x and show both camera's lcds to the client.  To a person they will point at the Nikon and say use the big camera.

Shoot tethered and in the real world large format is a 30" Apple Cinema Display.    Camera format is whatever you set the image crop to and the size of the viewing window.

All of this is just silly, ironic, boring stuff and now is not the time to start limiting who can view what images.   The expensive camera makers are having more than though financial times, even Canon and Nikon are showing huge losses and still photography is becoming marginalized by the hour.

Guy Bourdin (to name just one photographer) shot most of his later work with an old Nikon FM and lenses that rattled (and no I'm not comparing anyone here to Guy), but it's crazy to think that if Guy was still with us and kind enough to share his photography and technique, he would be banned from showing photographs in this section.

So if shooting "35mm" means your going to get fleas then your going miss lying down with a lot of interesting dogs.

In fact some of the most vocal proponents of "larger Sensor Photography" are shooting second and third generation cameras.  If they really believed bigger made better photographs they'd all buy a P65+ the day it came out.

It doesn't really matter.

B
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« Reply #915 on: May 25, 2009, 02:14:14 pm »

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I think it should be a PRO Photographer forum, where you can post stuff from any camera as long as you are good ;-) There could be a facility to vote up or down like they have on the Engadget forums, where if you get enough down votes, you have to go down the minors - which is the non-pro forums. That way the good stuff stays and the bad stuff goes. Because I agree, every pro has various format cameras and it's silly to have to post in various places due to which camera you grabbed at the time. That way it would be merit based, not gear-head based. After all, the gear-head approach means someone like Sabastiao Salgado would for the most part not be allowed to post in this "work you are proud of" thread. Same with Helmut Newton.

p.s. I also think all of this is discussion of what to put where is pretty silly, and everyone should just get back to work...it's all pretty much pro work on this forum already isn't it? I don't see any snapshots of squirrels and cats. Or did I just miss those...

Absolutely not. Any popular voting going beyond "don't post photos of your baby/cat/Mustang" only promotes group-think and pandering to the lowest common denominator (which admittedly here is not as low as elsewhere). One only has to go to PhotoSIG to see what kind of "community" has arisen there: a bunch of sycophants and other words I'd rather not use here.

In any case, I don't see a reason for anyone judging whether something is worthy of inclusion in a "recent works" thread - again barring the cat photos. Such tedious debates don't promote anything else than noise. I'd rather see people share their work, no matter if it's MFDB or lomography, amateur or pro.

But I'm all for a forum which would promote discussion of photography itself, rather than yet another sub-forum which is geared towards.. gear. Unfortunately there is already a sub-forum for the art aspect, but that's largely dead, so it appears that LL is mostly frequented by gear heads. Not saying that's necessarily a bad thing, but I would much like to understand the art side better.

edit: and yes, Lisa, there indeed was a gentleman here a few months back who posted a bunch of candid vacation shots of... questionable artistic merit taken with a very expensive MFDB IIRC, which included the aforementioned poodle.
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« Reply #916 on: May 25, 2009, 02:49:44 pm »

The endless debate about the best, most politically correct and seemingly most lengthy choice of title aside, isn't it simply just a good idea to segment DSLR Pro work vs > DSLR pro work simply to keep the forum easier to go thru and as relevant to as many folks as possible?

To help folks with MFDBs get better/different results? To work on PP techniques, lighting, etc? To help folks make buying decisions? To become a source for sample pics, reps to post comments (and get challenged) on, etc?  To give an idea to folks looking at moving up from 24x36 (or what have you) an idea of the pros/cons if they do so?

I'd be pretty safe in saying that there was no snobbery INTENDED.  You start combing everything and you'll see 1 MFDB post for every X DSLR shots simply than for no other reason than volumes of system sold in the pro community. Volume will go thru the roof and you WILL lose posters as a result -- even as MFDB kits become more affordable (in pure $$ terms) to more people as prices plunge.

Keep it Pro, but no harm in segmenting by 135 vs > 135 sensor size.

While a nice money-making image is a nice money-making image regardless of the sensor it was cut from, the PP, DoF, shooting considerations, lens choices, etc.,  between crop/FF DSLRs and MFDBs are VERY different. It is that difference that brings many folks, myself included (I have yet to buy a MFDB) to this forum. There are any number of places I can go for DSLR chatter/shots, pro or otherwise. MFDB, not so much.
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« Reply #917 on: May 26, 2009, 12:14:38 am »

took it recently in Singen in  Germany ...



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« Reply #918 on: May 26, 2009, 01:50:43 am »

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Thank you both, here's another from the same session


 
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« Reply #919 on: May 26, 2009, 03:21:22 am »

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took it recently in Singen in  Germany ...

I like the third one best
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