C1 4.5 works with OsX 10.4.11

[amsp]

I just installed it and it seems to be working just fine, only thing I've seen so far is that the lens correction tab is empty for some reason. Which is pretty weird since it worked on the NON pro version.

[amsp]

Hmmm.. color editor doesn't seem to work either.

Edit: Sorry, scratch that. Color editor DOES work. I'll stop posting now till I've tried it some more

[Guy Mancuso]

Need a image up for lens tab correction.

[Kitty]

Need a image up for lens tab correction.

I have problem with Capture 4.5.
Since first launch the software it keeps asking me (The location of the docutment "Capture One.col45" cannot be determined.)
You can specify where to save it.

When I save as. The software suddenly quit.
If I choose cancel it works for a while and will ask me again when I am going to quit.
Because I could not save as I hit cancel again and the software suddenly quit again.

Very strange. I have 3.7.9 which is very reliable.
I also have 4.1.2 which also has no problem.
I deleted 4.1.2 but still keep 3.7.9

Very strange. Anyone has the same problem?

kitty

[Guy Mancuso]

Did you folks wipe clean your old C1 from your systems. I wiped everything off first on my Macs, than installed 4.5 . Just curious if this is causing some issue if anything was left on the box. I'm running really well so far on almost everything . i have a one issue with my Mamiya 28mm the sharper corners seems greyed out. Checking on that one. I need to try tethered this morning with my Phase back and body. There is always the chance that not everything will work in 10.4 since it does require 10.5 so some things may have fell off the table also.

I should add I am running 10.5 on my Macs

[amsp]

I got the "Capture One.col45" problem too when I first opened the app, and I solved it like this. Under "open recent files" there was two files, I clicked one of those (don't remember which one) and the program said it had to update the file to 4.5, I clicked ok and that fixed it. I've been trying it out and have had no problems at all. I'm not particularly impressed with the program though, the skin tone tool is a joke.

[Snook]

I installed Pro on my Macbook with 10.4.11 (uninstalled previous 4.1 version). The app opens, can see an image but sliders don't work, can't zoom in, lens correction tab is empty and much more. Plus the app periodically asks to save the .col file which then crashes the app. So from my experience, it doesn't work at all on Tiger.

I will try to install Leopard over the weekend and see if it then works and how well.

To be honest I was expecting MORE. It looks just like V4.1 and has the same tools that 3.7.9 did but not much that is really forward thinking. It's just catching up with other apps but that hasn't happened either. I don't see how it took a full extra year to put Pro out after V4 when they are pretty much the same. I know more features in Pro but is anyone really going to pay $399 for this app. Buy LR and CS4 upgrade for nearly the same and have 100x more tools. I'm lucky it's just a free upgrade and as such if it doesn't help me as I would like it, no loss.

I am having the same issue..
No controls work at all.. Images load etc.. but everything grey out...
On my iMac it works pretty good..
On my G5 tower is where the problems is...
Glad I am not the only one!

Again no body has tethered yet!!! Too bad my studio is far away or I would go there now to try it!!!
Thanks for any more updates
Snook

[Kitty]

I got the "Capture One.col45" problem too when I first opened the app, and I solved it like this. Under "open recent files" there was two files, I clicked one of those (don't remember which one) and the program said it had to update the file to 4.5, I clicked ok and that fixed it. I've been trying it out and have had no problems at all. I'm not particularly impressed with the program though, the skin tone tool is a joke.

I could not find any under "open recent files". I guess the .col45 is the new session of Captureone 4.5.
I could not open the old session from 3.7.9 too.
Lens correction menu also blank.
I also could not find R,G,B seperate level or curve.
Quite disappointed. I still prefer old version 3.7.9

kitty

[Doug Peterson]

The name of this thread is VERY deceptive. 10.4 is NOT supported. 10.5.5 is required. If you want to play around using 10.4 then there is nothing stopping you from installing, but expect strangeness, crashes, and non-functioning tools.



"Skin Tone Tool" is very powerful, BUT not for what they advertise it for. This tool allows you to do a gray balance based on any known color rather than ONLY on a gray card. If you are constantly changing color temperatures with a particular subject (i.e. walking a model/subject tungsten, then daylight, then shadow, then strong color cast from a painted wall) then you can correct any one of those images (e.g. the daylight shot) and then "pick up" either the skin tone, or more realistically an article of clothing like a pair of jeans and then just click the equivalent color in the other shots and it will correct each shot's WB to make that color the same in each shot.

The effectiveness of the "Skin Tone Tool" will vary based on how consistent the tone of skin is on your model and on how accurately you can judge which skin tone should be used based on their relatively arbitrary names. It's not going to give you the final WB exactly, but in a tough/changing/dynamic lighting situations with hundreds of shots it lets you get rough WBs very quickly without a gray card.

For studio shooters of course you're still going to primarily use "5500/0" (or whatever known/fixed WB your aesthetics lead you towards) or a gray card. So this tool is not for you.

This also does NOT alter the skin tone, its just adjusts WB and Tint. There are included portrait ICC profiles for P1 backs as well as a full implementation of the incredibly powerful Color Editor which lets you alter and save ICC profiles (or just keep modification instructions them without having to save a new ICC profile) which can be used to design your own "skin tones". The belief that one camera produces "better skin tones" is based on each manufacturers ICC profiles and how closely their (relatively arbitrary) decisions match any particular photographers aesthetics. Phase One has its portrait profile, but with literally a few minutes of work you can produce your own profile which pushes skin tones more towards magenta, olive, higher or lower saturation and higher or lower luminosity.

We're working very hard here to produce a supplemental to the included User's Manual with our own summary of tips/tricks/shortcuts and workflow methods based on our user's input.

Anyone who downloads it and just dismisses it saying "I don't like it" needs to realize that this is a new program and ANY new program which is sufficiently different from what you are used to will garner a negative feeling. Just spend a little while with it and I really truly believe you will come to find it a powerful, flexible, and fast tool.

Doug Peterson,  Head of Technical Services
Capture Integration, Phase One Dealer
Personal Portfolio

[Guy Mancuso]

I am having the same issue..
No controls work at all.. Images load etc.. but everything grey out...
On my iMac it works pretty good..
On my G5 tower is where the problems is...
Glad I am not the only one!

Again no body has tethered yet!!! Too bad my studio is far away or I would go there now to try it!!!
Thanks for any more updates
Snook

Phase P25 plus and Phase body works fine with a 3 second from shot to preview. A little faster than before. Just a quick test but it seems to work with no issues at all. I am on 10.5 Leopard

Make that 2.5 seconds

[Kitty]

The name of this thread is VERY deceptive. 10.4 is NOT supported. 10.5.5 is required. If you want to play around using 10.4 then there is nothing stopping you from installing, but expect strangeness, crashes, and non-functioning tools.


Doug Peterson,  Head of Technical Services
Capture Integration, Phase One Dealer
Personal Portfolio

Thanks for the reply! So Capture 4.5 is not for me now. Still on Tiger.

[Jeff Weir]

I have problem with Capture 4.5.
Since first launch the software it keeps asking me (The location of the docutment "Capture One.col45" cannot be determined.)
You can specify where to save it.

When I save as. The software suddenly quit.
If I choose cancel it works for a while and will ask me again when I am going to quit.
Because I could not save as I hit cancel again and the software suddenly quit again.

Very strange. I have 3.7.9 which is very reliable.
I also have 4.1.2 which also has no problem.
I deleted 4.1.2 but still keep 3.7.9

Very strange. Anyone has the same problem?

kitty

I'm having the same problem and just got an email from phase....4.5 pro requires leopard 10.5xxxxx.  once leopard is installed, all will work properly.

Jeff

[Guy Mancuso]

Reason why I have been posting I am on 10.5 it works there except for my 28mm is the one issue with sharper corners. Trying to get answer on that one though.

[Mark_Tuttle]

[quote name='dougpetersonci' date='Oct 16 2008, 07:45 AM' post='229718']
The name of this thread is VERY deceptive. 10.4 is NOT supported. 10.5.5 is required. If you want to play around using 10.4 then there is nothing stopping you from installing, but expect strangeness, crashes, and non-functioning tools.


Again, let's clarify this point.  Is 10.5.5 actually required? The software doesn't function properly with anything below 10.5.5?

[Steve Hendrix]

The name of this thread is VERY deceptive. 10.4 is NOT supported. 10.5.5 is required. If you want to play around using 10.4 then there is nothing stopping you from installing, but expect strangeness, crashes, and non-functioning tools.


Again, let's clarify this point.  Is 10.5.5 actually required? The software doesn't function properly with anything below 10.5.5?

Mark:

I'll get clarification on this. But my assumption would be that 4.5 requires 10.5 Leopard OS. Mac OS 10.5.5 is recommended, it being the latest and likely least buggy. That would be my understandig. But I will clarify.


I will make this clear as far as the thread title:

CAPTURE ONE PRO 4.5 DOES NOT WORK ON 10.4.11.

And I would request that Michael delete the thread or at least call for the end of it. It is directly misleading (I don't mean maliciously, I just mean it is incorrect and the way that the thread title is written has the effect of misleading information in that the information is not correct). I don't want people's time to be wasted.


Steve Hendrix
Phase One

[Doug Peterson]

We all know 10.5.5 blah blah. Chris Lawery said the other day he was running it on 10.4.11 so that's why I at least was trying the option.

It sounds like some who are on Leopard are still having issues though. Snook is on Leopard. It's not running 100% for him.

Doug, Lance, Chris, Steve - I appreciate and look forward to any and all info to help people. But this is not a NEW app, it's just a repackaged version 4 with 'new' things, well many of which were in V3 Pro.

I have less confidence in all V4 apps, because they aren't the level of attentiveness in programming and bug fixing that we saw with the last version 3.

I want 4.5 Pro to work, the image quality from Capture One has always to my eyes been the best. So I'll stop bitching, do what I need to on my end to make it work.

We can argue semantics about what "new" means, but 4 Pro has many MAJOR features that were not in 4 non-pro and the workflow/navigation tools and ability to work with huge numbers of images at once is tremendously tremendously improved from 3 Pro.

As for "attentiveness and bug fixing"... Honestly, none of us will have a clear idea of stability for at least a week or two. We (or at least I) have been through several such product launches and it is hard to differentiate between someone have a actual problem and just not understanding some new aspect of the program. For instance, Snook may or may not be just trying to adjust a JPG which would explain the symptoms he is reporting. Regardless of what Snook's specific situation turns out to be, we will see lots of this. There will also surely be problems with very specific setups which could not be anticipated in advance (e.g. a specific video driver with a specific laptop running a specific background program) which wouldn't affect stability for 99% of users but which will generate some very angry posts on message boards. Generally speaking people post about new programs when they have problems, so the boards will fill.

Our company is very honest, and we will be clear on where we think Pro stands once we've had enough time to gather info from a variety of customers, and from a variety of backs/cameras/computers. For now the old golden rule of photography still stands: don't use anything in front of a client which you haven't tested personally in that exact setup.

Doug Peterson,  Head of Technical Services
Capture Integration, Phase One Dealer
Personal Portfolio

[Mark_Tuttle]

Mark:

I'll get clarification on this. But my assumption would be that 4.5 requires 10.5 Leopard OS. Mac OS 10.5.5 is recommended, it being the latest and likely least buggy. That would be my understandig. But I will clarify.

Steve Hendrix
Phase One

Thank you, Steve.  I have my copy of 10.5.4 in front of me ready to load on one of the computers, and having read about a number of bugs in 10.5.5 I wasn't going to jump at the further update.

[amsp]

The name of this thread is VERY deceptive. 10.4 is NOT supported. 10.5.5 is required. If you want to play around using 10.4 then there is nothing stopping you from installing, but expect strangeness, crashes, and non-functioning tools.

Yeah, it seems you are right, I tried opening the program again and now all the the tabs are empty and everything seems pretty much bugged. It did however work fine the first time I used it, which just makes me wonder how the hell did P1 program this thing? I'm sorry, but this was the last straw for me and I'm officially abandoning C1. Thank god for Adobe.

[Snook]

Yeah, it seems you are right, I tried opening the program again and now all the the tabs are empty and everything seems pretty much bugged. It did however work fine the first time I used it, which just makes me wonder how the hell did P1 program this thing? I'm sorry, but this was the last straw for me and I'm officially abandoning C1. Thank god for Adobe.

This is exactly what most people were saying..
That is was finally going to be released but we were going to be the Beta testers and work through the Bugs..
Phase said no, they have been testing it for a while..
Who were they testing this stuff with??
Have they tried different machines, different configurations???
So far I like it and have not seen any bugs but... jeeez this is getting frustrating..
I guess I'll try it when I can .. Just wanted one single tethering program that could do everything as I hated Hot folders etc... and going back and forth from one program to another....

Maybe phase should get some help with these things...

I'll comment more after using it some more and give them the benefit of the doubt...

I am sure they new that the release was going to get all kinds of mixed feelings.... I guess they could have told people a long time ago that it was for 10.5 and many could have lost hopes.
I personally find 10.5.5 very stable and much snappier than 10.4 but do understand people not wanting to change their OS if they are happy how it is...
Eventually they will have to change the OS for sure...
Snook

[jmboss]

Is anybody successfully running the new C1 Pro 4.5 on a Mac G4 with a Power PC CPU, as opposed to a "recommended Intel based Mac" as stated in the software's release notes and elsewhere on the Phase One website?

Thank you for any information,

Joe