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sergio

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« on: October 14, 2008, 09:06:44 pm »

I don't know for sure if this is the correct forum for this. I thought to put it under Shooting Techniques, though not quite so.

I have to make a very simple low budget image of a flat object semi covered with snow. I need some advice on how to create the snow for the camera. The object is small and the set is about as big as a letter sized paper. I have a reference image of the snow I need to create. Any help will be very appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2008, 09:31:46 am »

If you search for "fake snow" you'll find plenty of results which offer bags of shaved plastic, the standard stuff. Years ago I was in the same situation and used instant mashed potato mix (without the water, obviously). It worked like a charm.
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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2008, 09:33:29 am »

Quote from: sergio
I don't know for sure if this is the correct forum for this. I thought to put it under Shooting Techniques, though not quite so.

I have to make a very simple low budget image of a flat object semi covered with snow. I need some advice on how to create the snow for the camera. The object is small and the set is about as big as a letter sized paper. I have a reference image of the snow I need to create. Any help will be very appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Sergio


I buy all of my ice, cubes, crushed, snow from trengrove in NY ( http://www.trengovestudios.com/chem/f-chem.html ).... but... if your in a hurry and can't wait for shipping...buy some huggies diapers ( or any diaper that absorbs and expands ) and rip them open, shake them over a large bowl..... you'll end up with the same stuff that expands when wet and looks just like snow, frozen margarita ice, etc.....

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« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2008, 08:23:22 pm »

Sergio-
My main line of work is modelmaking and prop fabrication and I have done lots of snow effects.  Trengove has a number of different products that work, but for closeup work the crystal frost (same stuff as mentioned above in some diapers and as a landscaping additive to retain moisture in soil) is the most convincing, but only if you are looking for a slushy effect.  Most mashed potatoes are a little too yellow and coarse for close work, but they are fine for wider shots.

Believe it or not, the most effective look for a finer, more powdery look in snow is salt.  I buy it in bulk, sold as "mill feed" salt for animals, and have done shots with it that nobody can believe is not real snow.  The mill feed is slightly coarser than table salt.  The best part about using salt is that you can get very realistic snowballs, crusty snow over powder, and trails in snow that are difficult with the other plastic snow varieties.  Wet it with a spray bottle and it dissolves just enough to compact and allow you to pack it and get a hard shell of crusty snow over powder.  I once even did a car shoot for Isuzu troopers that had 12" to 18" of snow on one of their cars.  By moistening it, we got a really realistic broken edge just like snow shears off after a blizzard when it piles up on a car.  The best part is that I pay less than ten bucks for a 50 pound bag and it doesn't get all over the studio like the plastic kind.  The worst part is that is is quite heavy in quantity.
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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2008, 01:16:10 pm »

Thanks a lot for the tips.
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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2008, 03:13:26 pm »

Cool tip regarding the salt I had not heard of that one. I used to work in special effects and we used "show snow" brand which was shaved plastic of some sort and if outdoors on big shoots we used potatoe flakes... messy. THis was of course for atmosphere not just scenery so we used giant airboat fans to blow the stuff in the air and a strong guy to shake it in front on the fans. In the end we got smart and added hoppers. For the out of focus areas we used giant rolls of cotton batten as it goes out quick and rolls up fast too.
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