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dalethorn

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« on: July 20, 2008, 07:38:06 pm »

I put together a board with 9 prints for this man's wife, then later just made a collage of the 9 images.  I was concerned about the reaction I would get for several reasons.  One, the 3 paintings on the top row were done by different artists, and the 6 in the lower 2 rows were self-portraits.  As art, I had an impression that the artists of the top row were (subconsciously perhaps) painting someone else and using this man (lower 6 images) as the model for their visions.

The second issue was whether I would get a bad reaction for the edits I made to these images of the original art, since I felt that the photos I had made didn't quite fit together aesthetically.  So I did a few slight rotations, croppings, color and contrast adjustments etc., until I could paste up all 9 without having any one image/painting commanding much more attention that any of the rest, more or less.
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Rob C

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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2008, 04:54:33 pm »

Just found this post. An interesting dilemma to which I think you probaly found the key: changing bits by virtue of artistic licence creates its own work of art, just as long as there is neither plagiarism nor unauthorised direct copying going down!

As this was some time ago, what sort of reaction did you actually get?

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« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2008, 09:01:20 pm »

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Just found this post. An interesting dilemma to which I think you probaly found the key: changing bits by virtue of artistic licence creates its own work of art, just as long as there is neither plagiarism nor unauthorised direct copying going down!

As this was some time ago, what sort of reaction did you actually get?

Rob C
I'd forgotten about this after all this time.  Since I inherited all of the art and other things these people had, I didn't have to worry about their reaction, although when the wife was still around, her initial reaction was positive.  Through the past 8 months or so, with several art sales, auctions, and donations to university and museum, I've had a chance to show and describe the original 4x6 prints in the 17x22 frame to a number of art specialists.  I don't recall a single one of them offering more than a "hmmm".  Which could be good, indicating nobody else does this sort of thing.
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2008, 11:02:51 am »

I can offer you a "hmmmm" about this issue...

the main question: are the artists that painted the first 3 images still alive? if not, are they somebody with big names that could get you in trouble?

generally speaking, if I were the original artist, I would not want my art to be used in derivative works, and I explicitly state that in my bill of sales for my limited edition photos.

ethically, if the original artists are OK with it, or unavailable for comment, I would give them at least big credit for their work, and clearly state that this is derivative work,  not original work.

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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2008, 02:24:40 pm »

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I can offer you a "hmmmm" about this issue...

the main question: are the artists that painted the first 3 images still alive? if not, are they somebody with big names that could get you in trouble?

generally speaking, if I were the original artist, I would not want my art to be used in derivative works, and I explicitly state that in my bill of sales for my limited edition photos.

ethically, if the original artists are OK with it, or unavailable for comment, I would give them at least big credit for their work, and clearly state that this is derivative work,  not original work.
I understand what you're saying, but this was not done for sale or exhibit, only for a specific critique. And it appears that nobody understands the point, so I guess that's that.
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