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« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2008, 04:50:19 pm »

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...and why would one use the gray card to check white balance?
Wouldn't one use the white card?

Raw data is linearly encoded. Half of all the data is in the first stop of highlights, that's why we white balance in a Raw converter. A rendered image has a gamma encoding, gray balancing here works fine.
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« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2008, 05:02:48 pm »

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Raw data is linearly encoded. Half of all the data is in the first stop of highlights, that's why we white balance in a Raw converter. A rendered image has a gamma encoding, gray balancing here works fine.
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I love your straighforward answers. But could you elaborate a little so I understand? Exactly what do you mean by first stop of highlights and rendered image? And if you can elaborate on the concept of what you wrote or refer me to a place that would be good too.
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« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2008, 05:06:40 pm »

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I love your straighforward answers. But could you elaborate a little so I understand? Exactly what do you mean by first stop of highlights and rendered image? And if you can elaborate on the concept of what you wrote or refer me to a place that would be good too.
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Must read here on LL:
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You'll see that a Raw document has half of all the data in the first stop. Michael's illustration shows this clearly.

A rendered image is what you get out the back end of a Raw converter. Pixels in some color space based on a color appearance you set in the converter, from the Raw data itself.

This is another must read:
http://wwwimages.adobe.com/www.adobe.com/p...renderprint.pdf
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« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2008, 05:24:20 pm »

Linda,
I would take an image of just the color checker.  Then one with the color check and each piece of art. And also make another image in "exactly" the same light of just the art.

Then you can use the color checker image to run the script. There are three versions, I am at the wrong computer to give you the link. (Tom Fors is the original developer, the one that seems to give me the best results is a version of Tom's script that has additional parameters.)

Since you are working with a computer without a calibrated monitor, most of this workflow will probably have to wait till you get home.

Running the script and inputing the results into camera raw is the first step.
Then when you open an image of the art with the color checker you can do a white balance by clicking the eye dropper on the second gray square. and then open the image in CS3.

I then open a selective color layer. It has options to select Red, Blue, Green, Yellow, Cyan, Magenta, white, midtone, black.

I start with black. With that selected place the curser over the black square on the color checker and notice the RGB readings in the info window.

There is a reference (again i will have to provide the link later) available that has Color Checker readings for the most widely used color spaces. Use the sliders (They are the complements of RGB) to adjust the RGB readings to match those in the reference.

When you are done, save the layer as a preset for that piece of art and then open the image without the color checker using same setting in Camera Raw you set for the previous image.

Then when it is opened in CS3 add a selective color layer and load the saved preset.

I have found, using this workflow and then converting the image to sRGB and saving for the web from CS3 that the resulting JPG prints a reasonable facsimile of the art on a standard printer without any color management. i.e. anyone can print a reasonably good image.

David
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« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2008, 05:37:51 pm »

Here is link to the script I prefer:
http://21stcenturyshoebox.com/tools/ACRcalibrator.html

and here is the website with the color checker reference:
http://brucelindbloom.com/

David
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« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2008, 01:41:29 pm »

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Here is link to the script I prefer:
http://21stcenturyshoebox.com/tools/ACRcalibrator.html

and here is the website with the color checker reference:
http://brucelindbloom.com/

David
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I have PS CS2. I could use the Adobe Camera Raw within CS2 (not sure where to look to find out what version of Adobe Camera Raw I have) and RSP. If I want to attempt David's methodology, what would be best to use with my software? (I'm assuming it is possible with CS2)
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« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2008, 07:32:57 pm »

Linda,
The scripts for calibrating your camera should run in CS2 just as well.

I do not remember if the selective color layer option is available in CS2.

If not it becomes tedious to do the color correcting on the RGBYCM/WMB squares.

David
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