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« Reply #1600 on: August 21, 2008, 01:40:27 pm »

Done, although the horse remark is a bit brute
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« Reply #1601 on: August 21, 2008, 01:51:16 pm »

Hi Frank,

Just curious -- why do you opt for film over digital in some situations?
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« Reply #1602 on: August 21, 2008, 02:17:02 pm »

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Dear Michael,

I don't want to be part of this anymore.... life is to short.

please remove my user account.

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Witz, just ignore these kind of commets. This forum can be a great place if you know how and when to step back a little.

Still, I don't understand how and why it's allowed for certain people to regulary poison fabulous threads with very unexperienced, unfounded opinions and never showing their own work...

Anyway, great work! Don't leave the forum.

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« Reply #1603 on: August 21, 2008, 02:39:18 pm »

@Bob,
It's actually not what you think.

I don't prefer film over digital because it's better, actually it isn't (when compared to a good MF back that is).

I do prefer it SOMETIMES for the look it gets.
Also the workflow in photoshop is much faster, with digital there is so much detail in the skin that I most of the time have to retouch, finding the balance between keeping detail and getting a smoother skin is often a trade off, and in the internet conversion almost all fine detail is lost.
With film the files are straight out of the camera different.
The skin is much smoother while the eyes etc. are still sharp enough (although not as defined as with digital).

I find myself with film often a traditionalist, trying to scan it and change as little as possible, with digital I will work on the files much more, and the work I do is always skin and sometimes toning.
With film I like the look I get from the scan, I try to find the film I like for the look I want.

At the moment I love the Ektachrome 64 and the Astia, but that can change over time of course.

So a short answer.
Film scanned is for me a final product (or almost final), digital it's were I really dive into it.
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« Reply #1604 on: August 21, 2008, 02:42:08 pm »

I have been photographing modern dancers for my personal work for years, these are two relatively recent ones both shot with a phase back on Hasselblads.
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« Reply #1605 on: August 21, 2008, 02:44:17 pm »

Some recent photographs:

Sorry for the long post. I don't have much time to post right now...


















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« Reply #1606 on: August 21, 2008, 02:56:48 pm »

Greetings to all from london with a night scene shot out of the studio window ....

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« Reply #1607 on: August 21, 2008, 04:33:48 pm »

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Witz

On that basis, you might as well close down every arts magazine, every movie review, every fashion magazine - almost anything visual that you care to think about unless the editor happens to be the photographer too.

The Rollei I had before my first 500C was already worn out when I got it- the first 500C was not. Neither was its later companion, the CM. Guess I was doing something right too.
 
Very nice shot you posted - I can see why you are proud if it. Unfortuntely, it does not show me why you feel you should quite the LuLa. Neither does it show me which photographer had been dissed - if that´s the current buzz word in these parts. But then, when folks get their knickers in a twist they sometimes think somebody else did it to them - just read the invective in these later posts. It´s quite ammusing to see how many pots there are around here calling a single - oops, make that two - kettles black. A lesser mind might even think it as a case of bullying, perish the thought. Bullying, I understand, is when the numbers in a struggle are unequal... oh well, just a thought, as I said.

Stay or leave, it´s up to you. I simply don´t see how it is relevant to an argument that has been developed by people who seem incapable of understanding what is written and is right there under their noses for them to check out if they fail to understand first time around. But then, that would take effort.

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« Reply #1608 on: August 22, 2008, 08:00:34 am »

hi Rob C

Interesting note: Springs a small city near Jhb has the 2nd most number of Art Deco Buildings in the world after Miami. Springs was a booming mine town in the 30's. stagnated after that, perhaps the reason why these buildings are still here, but with a patina of decay.

Boemelaar is afrikaans for people living on the streets and (mainly) begging for a living.

this boxer of my just recently ate my brand new panama hat! Still keep the tatters in my office - to remind me of what might have been!

Wedding dress was made in Fairview, a disadvantaged area of Jhb. this girl asked me to photograph her in her wedding dress. the wedding never happened but she kept the dress. Have been told by other photographer that it is 'erotic' I dont do erotic but I suppose veryone sees different things.

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« Reply #1609 on: August 22, 2008, 09:53:09 am »

Quote from: Rob C,Aug 21 2008, 04:33 PM
Quote from: witz,Aug 21 2008, 01:45 PM
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Witz

On that basis, you might as well close down every arts magazine, every movie review, every fashion magazine - almost anything visual that you care to think about unless the editor happens to be the photographer too.

The Rollei I had before my first 500C was already worn out when I got it- the first 500C was not. Neither was its later companion, the CM. Guess I was doing something right too.
 
Very nice shot you posted - I can see why you are proud if it. Unfortuntely, it does not show me why you feel you should quite the LuLa. Neither does it show me which photographer had been dissed - if that´s the current buzz word in these parts. But then, when folks get their knickers in a twist they sometimes think somebody else did it to them - just read the invective in these later posts. It´s quite ammusing to see how many pots there are around here calling a single - oops, make that two - kettles black. A lesser mind might even think it as a case of bullying, perish the thought. Bullying, I understand, is when the numbers in a struggle are unequal... oh well, just a thought, as I said.

Stay or leave, it´s up to you. I simply don´t see how it is relevant to an argument that has been developed by people who seem incapable of understanding what is written and is right there under their noses for them to check out if they fail to understand first time around. But then, that would take effort.

Ciao

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Rob,

I perused many of your posts from back to when you joined the forum to recent... and I must say that you are a talented writer. I've never been much good at it... possibly a little dexlexia or just lack of muscle in that part of my brain. I'm sorry we got off on a bad start.... It began when you commented that a few of my photographs left you cold. I responded that I could see how that could happen to you ( I was agreeing with you as there purpose was to not be warm and fuzzy ) and you freaked out at me..... you missinterpretted me..... so I apologize for setting you off. was not my intent. But... you can't put the genie back in the bottle can you? I also apologize to you for the "put up or shut up" remark to you.... it was unfair. You have every right to protect your vision from the big bad world.

I'm going to be traveling for a few weeks on a big project and will try not to visit this forum.... maybe when I get back all will be pleasant again. If not then I guess I should just move on.
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« Reply #1610 on: August 22, 2008, 12:39:34 pm »

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I responded that I could see how that could happen to you ( I was agreeing with you as there purpose was to not be warm and fuzzy ) and you freaked out at me..... you missinterpretted me..... so I apologize for setting you off. was not my intent. But... you can't put the genie back in the bottle can you? I also apologize to you for the "put up or shut up" remark to you.... it was unfair. You have every right to protect your vision from the big bad world.

I'm going to be traveling for a few weeks on a big project and will try not to visit this forum.... maybe when I get back all will be pleasant again. If not then I guess I should just move on.
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It might be the heat, certainly the humidity doesn´t help, but I think we might be talking at cross-purposes here.

The pictures that left me "cold" if memory serves, were not yours at all. I was, as far as I know, writing about Frank´s work (you are not also Frank, by any chance - if so, I must be losing it big-time) and I had seen one of his images (Post 524, April 25th, 08.29pm) which is of a woman leaning back. It´s a moody backlit shot looking across her chest and throat, and her head is pointing upwards. That single photograph says everything good that can be said about female attraction in its most pure form. As I remarked at the time, it was one of those I wish it were mine moments.

Now, the remark about being left cold. That was not intended as any put-down either. Frank´s photographs display a fantastic control of lighting, far more than I have ever had in studio work - I was able to do it to an extent, had to, but never enjoyed it very much as I like the great outdoors, especially anything to do with the sea and sand. Those elements and women make great chemistry.

And that´s why I found no personal reaction to them. As clever as they are, they are not my bag, as it were, so why pretend to rave over something that does nothing for me? I never said they were not good - let me re-state that here. The reaction  that seems to have spun out of control from that point on has amazed me.

How to put this? It reminds me of a village in Transylvania (no, please, nobody lives there, and here, now?) where the people have just burned the little old lady with the cat because the village idiot told them that she was a witch, using, for fuel, all the books in the library that they were unable to read; all the pretty girls who refused the advances of the priest have been branded whores and driven into exile; the blacksmith´s alsation has just had its throat slit because the postman said that it was really a warewolf. So, an ethnically cleansed  desert remains, a smouldering emptiness with nothing to hinder the journey of the eye as far as it can range.

Good. Now, in all this new emptiness, perhaps some of the more insane on this little thread will have their view unblinkered - will not be able to hide behind any bushes and claim to see what is not out there. That being so, and with a brand new piece of free screen before them, now would be a good time for one of them to actually quote the page number, post number and line where Rob C, rest his patient soul, actually took down, mocked, spat upon or otherwise disrespected any person´s image on this thread.

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« Reply #1611 on: August 22, 2008, 12:55:46 pm »

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An honest and thoughtful post witz. It will be a shame if you decide to leave over this, but I can understand it if you do.
Rob C:
Whatever your arguments/philosophies/opinions/whatevers, about not posting your work - until you do then you will continue to be seen as a gobby trouble maker.
I actually agree with aspects of some of your arguments, but I'm afraid I cannot be bothered to engage with someone who is all mouth & no trousers - whatever you doth protest.
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Seems fair enough to me - there is  no obligation to feel otherwise.

All I ask is that what I WRITE be read, not that some idiot refer to the last mistaken post in his line of sight and then take off from there as if that misreport or quotation was the real deal. All it would have taken was a minute or so of attention, but I guess that in an age where even a three-minute mind like mine is too long...

However, I have no idea where you live, but should you be travelling in my area do give me a buzz - I would like to put a pair of trousers around my modesty, my mouth can take care of itself - and there´s no question that I would enjoy showing you my personal take on what I did/do/still like and thus I extend the invitaion to you too. As with the invitations to others, no pressure to buy.

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« Reply #1612 on: August 22, 2008, 01:04:54 pm »

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Interesting note: Springs a small city near Jhb has the 2nd most number of Art Deco Buildings in the world after Miami. Springs was a booming mine town in the 30's. stagnated after that, perhaps the reason why these buildings are still here, but with a patina of decay.

Boemelaar is afrikaans for people living on the streets and (mainly) begging for a living.

this boxer of my just recently ate my brand new panama hat! Still keep the tatters in my office - to remind me of what might have been!

Wedding dress was made in Fairview, a disadvantaged area of Jhb. this girl asked me to photograph her in her wedding dress. the wedding never happened but she kept the dress. Have been told by other photographer that it is 'erotic' I dont do erotic but I suppose veryone sees different things.

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Hi Ivan

Thanks for clearing up what boemelaar means. No way would I have guessed.

Something I should have said in my original note was that it´s nice to see somebody doing the sort of photjournalism that you do without being in the least condescending, critical or otherwise pejorative of the subjects. Their reactions must reflect the way you approach them. Also, it probably demostrates the difference between somebody who flies into a situation and another who lives there and knows the realities.Well done and more power to your elbow.

Rob C

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« Reply #1613 on: August 22, 2008, 01:48:06 pm »

I don't visit this thread often because there are too many commercial-type images which don't interest me much. I'm more into fine art, and I use the word 'fine' in its proper context, meaning art which is an end in itself, not necessarilly art which is excellent by anyone's standards.

Having just read the recent criticisms of Rob's very reasonable comments about this thread being in danger of becoming a mutual admiration society, I'm dismayed by the response of some of you. At the same time, I shouldn't be surprised.

I wonder if most of you MFDB owners consider yourselves prima donnas, like ballerinas or opera singers. The slightest criticism seems to send you into paroxysms of rage.
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« Reply #1614 on: August 22, 2008, 02:01:17 pm »

OK enough please!

This has been the best "photography" thread on the internet in any forum I have ever seen.

So could we remember what this thread is about; and that is the posting and discussion of MFDB images.

We have managed to keep most of the other arguments out and have kept the discussion respectful.

Here in this thread we have seen some extraordinary work and have kept the attention of some top professionals. Personally I have learned a great deal from it.

So I am not going to participate in this current odd conversation that has popped up and if the rest of you avoid doing the same we can keep this thread as valuable as it has been.
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« Reply #1615 on: August 22, 2008, 02:13:00 pm »

recent work ( it is commercial... but I don't see it as NOT being art.... to me )

1 minute exposure with multiple pops from various strobes... some with diffusion in front of the lens, some without.

Lexmark tag line for print ad was " save a bunch of clams "

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« Reply #1616 on: August 22, 2008, 02:20:19 pm »

An aerial view of Denali National Park - Mamiya AFD II/P30+ and 75-150 lens.  May not be the pick of the litter but I am surprised at the image especially since they wouldn't let me open the door!


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« Reply #1617 on: August 22, 2008, 02:26:26 pm »

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« Reply #1618 on: August 22, 2008, 02:30:27 pm »

Here's another image from the same flight all in Deanli National Park

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« Reply #1619 on: August 22, 2008, 02:31:24 pm »

I do like it, love the contrast and the shells, very nice.
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