Topic: Recent Works (Read 855847 times)

ivan muller · « **Reply #1580 on:** August 21, 2008, 05:06:19 am »

hi Dirk,

I like your work!

I can, in a way share your thoughts. I am not sure that goldblatt shows them in a 'bad light'. I think he just shows them the way they are/were. The 'Some Afrikaners' bo actually took me back to my youth were, as little white boys, we played kleilat and each one would have his gang and for a day were blissfully unaware of the bigger political picture. But at the end of the day we went our separate ways. his photo, 'farmers son and his nursemaid, hymweeberg', could have been me! But I agree some of his work is a little dull. I would love to do an essay on the new diamonds and their black bmw's and gucci bags

Regards, Ivan

Rob C · « **Reply #1581 on:** August 21, 2008, 05:12:52 am »

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Dear Michael,

I don't want to be part of this anymore.... life is to short.

please remove my user account.

Thanks You

witz
www.witzke-studio.com
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And that, witz, shows you are still not reading the message, just disliking the messenger.

If you disagree, why don´t you explain, here, what it is that makes you feel differently about things?

I shall give you, below, an example of the problems that arise when too much credit is given in an indiscriminate way.

For several years now I have been buying B&W magazine, www.BandWmag.com because I am interested in b/w photography and also the world of photographic collection. The magazine started off with one man´s vision and grew to a point where it had to take in outside power to enable growth to continue, a not unusual business experience. I have just stopped buying it, cancelling my order.

Why did I do this, since my love for the medium is as strong as ever? The answer to that lies in the last copy that I bought, issue 6o, the 2008 Portfolio Contest Awards. Up to page 75 there are photographs which have been rated within a category termed Excellence Award. I find every one of them shows a photographer with vision.

From page 76 to the end of the competition pictures, way away on page 223, there is a collection of the also-rans. And that´s the trouble: the bulk of the magazine is, for me, a waste of my $16.95 (actually, a lot more in €s). Had the magazine stayed with its normal format and not swollen itself (and raised the price) to cater for also-rans in what I suppose is a commercial effort to keep the contributions flowing in to further competitions, I would have been a happy camper, spending several evenings over the months to come enjoying the images longer. As it turns out, I have been totally disillusioned by both publisher and the weight of mediocre material that I find myself to have bought. The taste with which I am left is not pleasant, whereas, standards maintained, it would have been divine.

This may or may not help you to understand why I find problems with blanket praise. It might not even calm you hysteria but there you go, as you said, life is too short for some things.

To others, who find problems with myself and Ray (whom I do not know) I can only say that it surprises me somewhat: the only problems that I see with posts from either of us is that where reasoned response is not forthcoming, where points of view are not countered in any clear and relevant way, the soloution seems to be found in blind attack.

This is a forum; that implies a place where views are exchanged, not where vanities are stroked.

Rob C

ivan muller · « **Reply #1582 on:** August 21, 2008, 05:14:20 am »

hi Bob,

Nice! ( I dont want to be tooo flattering, could get into trouble)

Any tips on how I can get my 18month old boxer to sit still!?

Regards, Ivan

ivan muller · « **Reply #1583 on:** August 21, 2008, 05:15:47 am »

Hi RobC

Care to share your thoughts on the 'boemelaar' pics. I can take it on the chin.

Regards, Ivan

Rob C · « **Reply #1584 on:** August 21, 2008, 08:07:19 am »

Ivan

Just looked through your site - you have a well-developed photojournalist´s eye, as you obviously must know. A couple of things:

Amper - Alles makes me think of Miami;
Wedding Dress, Fairview is a beautiful example of portraiture.

What is boemelarr? I can´t find a reference here, but might just be weary...

About the dog: you picked an unfortunate breed if you want still-life. I had an alsabrador, the dog-love of my life, and she was so intelligent she just knew what to do in front of the camera. Just like people, really: some have it and others never will.

Anyway, interesting photographs you are able to make. Also, it is good to see folks keeping alive the ethic of b/w.

Rob C

Rob C · « **Reply #1585 on:** August 21, 2008, 08:12:48 am »

To no-one in particular, I´d like to say that the Grayhand set of pics of the lady by the window bring back good memories for me. Of the 60s, no less, and of Nikons and sweet dreams like that. Except that we were doing it mostly in black/white. It was an entire school of photography in those days - even David Hamilton was exploring the style... If you can find a copy of Dreams of Young Girls you will see what I mean.

Rob C

Rob C · « **Reply #1586 on:** August 21, 2008, 08:33:07 am »

Quote from: HarperPhotos,Aug 20 2008, 10:36 PM

I have to admit that I find Rob C comments rude and very negative on this forum and other forums on this website but I choose to egnore him.

Actually he is coming a close second to Ray in his inappropriate comments.

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Interesting slant: rudeness usually implies some breach of etiquette - which one exactly am I guilty of attacking? If you include sacred cows in the equation, then you are most certainly right, but I would have imagined you to be beyond that level of analysis. Ignore me if you wish, no harm done, but do open your mind to the possibility that all here are not gods and not all work made in heaven.

There has always been a group that feels happy in a world of cotton wool, isolated from any greater reality than its own; that´s not a very progressive one to inhabit and I´d have imagined the LuLa to be a little beyond that. It seems that some might be trying to prove otherwise.

Hell, why did I have to come in second place to Ray? Failed again.

I´m a little bemused by the negative aspect that I am deemed to show; I have also been associated with the concept of bully in this thread, both of which notions I find rather surprising. I would be interested to know which photographer I have knocked and which one bullied. You might be confusing this thread with the one on LaChapelle, but that was something quite else: read the OP. Debate, discussion: it demands opinion. Not love and kisses. Though I don´t know, some might like that...

Rob C

SeanBK · « **Reply #1587 on:** August 21, 2008, 08:46:30 am »

Could we please get back to the "original post" - Show your M.F.D.B works. I for one feels it is getting too preachy . If that is what you want (you know who you are), then start another thread for lectures... Don't kill this wonderful thread.

BobDavid · « **Reply #1588 on:** August 21, 2008, 09:11:12 am »

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hi Bob,

Nice! ( I dont want to be tooo flattering, could get into trouble)

Any tips on how I can get my 18month old boxer to sit still!?

Regards, Ivan
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Hi Ivan,

Take your boxer out for a nice walk before trying to take its picture. Also, it helps if you have someone on the ground with the dog to anchor it to a particular spot. Dog's have a limited attention span, so if you don't get the shot after five minutes, wait another fifteen and try again. What I've learned about photographing dogs is that you let them call the shots.

thsinar · « **Reply #1589 on:** August 21, 2008, 09:21:49 am »

"jpjespersen", the OP, should get a medal or else!
A pity he is not longer with us.

Yes, pls. let's not kill something which enjoys so much hits and success: no matter what the opinions posted here are, they are opinions and as long it is not said in an aggressive way or harming somebody in a direct way, just let them be opinions and stand as such. And those who have images, continue to post them.

It seems simple, though we tend to make it ourselves being a "killing" issue.

Best regards,
Thierry

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Could we please get back to the "original post" - Show your M.F.D.B works. I for one feels it is getting too preachy . If that is what you want (you know who you are), then start another thread for lectures... Don't kill this wonderful thread.
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witz · « **Reply #1590 on:** August 21, 2008, 09:45:51 am »

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And that, witz, shows you are still not reading the message, just disliking the messenger.

If you disagree, why don´t you explain, here, what it is that makes you feel differently about things?

I shall give you, below, an example of the problems that arise when too much credit is given in an indiscriminate way.

For several years now I have been buying B&W magazine, www.BandWmag.com because I am interested in b/w photography and also the world of photographic collection. The magazine started off with one man´s vision and grew to a point where it had to take in outside power to enable growth to continue, a not unusual business experience. I have just stopped buying it, cancelling my order.

Why did I do this, since my love for the medium is as strong as ever? The answer to that lies in the last copy that I bought, issue 6o, the 2008 Portfolio Contest Awards. Up to page 75 there are photographs which have been rated within a category termed Excellence Award. I find every one of them shows a photographer with vision.

From page 76 to the end of the competition pictures, way away on page 223, there is a collection of the also-rans. And that´s the trouble: the bulk of the magazine is, for me, a waste of my $16.95 (actually, a lot more in €s). Had the magazine stayed with its normal format and not swollen itself (and raised the price) to cater for also-rans in what I suppose is a commercial effort to keep the contributions flowing in to further competitions, I would have been a happy camper, spending several evenings over the months to come enjoying the images longer. As it turns out, I have been totally disillusioned by both publisher and the weight of mediocre material that I find myself to have bought. The taste with which I am left is not pleasant, whereas, standards maintained, it would have been divine.

This may or may not help you to understand why I find problems with blanket praise. It might not even calm you hysteria but there you go, as you said, life is too short for some things.

To others, who find problems with myself and Ray (whom I do not know) I can only say that it surprises me somewhat: the only problems that I see with posts from either of us is that where reasoned response is not forthcoming, where points of view are not countered in any clear and relevant way, the soloution seems to be found in blind attack.

This is a forum; that implies a place where views are exchanged, not where vanities are stroked.

Rob C
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Well Rob,

I just don't think I belong here and I'm sure you will agree. You see, I'm a working pro shooting national print ad work for over 20 years and make a very good living at it. I visit this forum to stay fresh on photography related topics... mostly technical topics that relate to the ever changing utilities that help me stay at the top of my game. LL is the finest website I have found that caters to my interest in that area. I am not a "collector" or "critic". I do not feel that my opinion matters as to whether I "like" an image or not. I do consider myself an artist though and have an appreciation for anyone else that has an "eye" for photography. I have trouble reading your criticisms without seeing your work.... ( put up or shut up )

I'm attaching a photograph I took when I was 14 years old.... it's one that I never get tired of looking at. Shot with my 1st MF camera, a bronica EC with an 80mm nikkor lens. I wore this camera out until I bought my 1st hasselblad.
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Before I do leave, I would like to recommend that you give some thought on your "tough love" approach to your posts. I also suggest that you start a new topic thread that you can rant all you want and if anyone feels the need for soden fuhrer then they can visit you there.

juicy · « **Reply #1591 on:** August 21, 2008, 10:09:31 am »

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"jpjespersen", the OP, should get a medal or else!
A pity he is not longer with us.

Yes, pls. let's not kill something which enjoys so much hits and success: no matter what the opinions posted here are, they are opinions and as long it is not said in an aggressive way or harming somebody in a direct way, just let them be opinions and stand as such. And those who have images, continue to post them.

It seems simple, though we tend to make it ourselves being a "killing" issue.

Best regards,
Thierry
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Yes, this has been one of the most inspiring threads ever and probably exactly because of not being a simple critique forum.

Cheers,
J

(ps. I believe the op is here and posting but under a different name...)

H1/A75 Guy · « **Reply #1592 on:** August 21, 2008, 10:14:30 am »

Witz,

I enjoy your 'wide-view'. This is not a plug for Leaf, however, your work did open my eyes to the possibilities with an AFI 10. Thanks,

David

Graham Mitchell · « **Reply #1593 on:** August 21, 2008, 10:23:38 am »

Another forum I frequently visit has a photo thread with a simple rule: every post must contain an on-topic photo otherwise it is deleted by a moderator. That prevents thread melt downs like this one. Should we start a new photo thread with this rule? It would help to have a moderator on-board.

Leonardo Barreto · « **Reply #1594 on:** August 21, 2008, 11:11:13 am »

Llama and Lake Titikaka, P25/35mmMamiya

The other image --under exposed by error-- is with the 150mm f/3.5

NBP · « **Reply #1595 on:** August 21, 2008, 11:57:42 am »

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I have trouble reading your criticisms without seeing your work.... ( put up or shut up )

An honest and thoughtful post witz. It will be a shame if you decide to leave over this, but I can understand it if you do.

Rob C:
Whatever your arguments/philosophies/opinions/whatevers, about not posting your work - until you do then you will continue to be seen as a gobby trouble maker.
I actually agree with aspects of some of your arguments, but I'm afraid I cannot be bothered to engage with someone who is all mouth & no trousers - whatever you doth protest.

Gabe · « **Reply #1596 on:** August 21, 2008, 12:30:43 pm »

Witz (and anyone else who has been contributing their work to this amazing and incredibly inspirational thread, but is suddenly realizing it has gone tragically off course),

please don't leave!!

The only way to truly deal with trolls in a forum like this is to ignore them and carry on with the discussion, no matter how tempting it might be to respond to their gibberish.

To that end, it may be helpful for some people to know that this forum comes equipped with a fantastic Ignore User feature. To 'Ignore' a particular user whose views you are not interested in reading, simply do the following:

• click on their User Name, which appears in the upper-left corner of every post they make. You will be re-directed to that user's Profile page.

• click on "Ignore User" in the Profile Options section which appears at the top of this page. You will be re-directed to your own Control Panel's "Ignored Users" section, and the user's name will already be entered into one of the fields for you.

• click on "Update Ignored Users", and the user will be added to an "Ignored User List" for you.

After following those steps, whenever an "Ignored User" makes a post, you will instead see a small message informing you that they are on your ignore-list, and will be given an option to reveal the post if you wish to read it for some reason. You also have the option to "Un-ignore" the user if you'd like.

It would be great if the feature could be enabled on a thread-by-thread basis, but it's forum-wide. Still, it can really cut down on the signal-to-noise ratio, and it's easy enough to reveal hidden posts in those threads where these Ignored Users are actually making a genuine contribution.

If, in fact, they ever do.

Frank Doorhof · « **Reply #1597 on:** August 21, 2008, 12:55:55 pm »

Back to sharing.

A scan from a recent session with Carlies.
Scanned directly from Astia slide film, shot with the RZ67 ProII.
No photoshop or whatever.

Snook · « **Reply #1598 on:** August 21, 2008, 01:08:38 pm »

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Back to sharing.

A scan from a recent session with Carlies.
Scanned directly from Astia slide film, shot with the RZ67 ProII.
No photoshop or whatever.

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Good to see some more natural skin...

All you would need to do is take the lines off the neck.. instead of that Super Plastic filter you usually use...:+}
Looks good
Snook

Boris_Epix · « **Reply #1599 on:** August 21, 2008, 01:11:13 pm »

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Good to see some more natural skin...

All you would need to do is take the lines off the neck.. instead of that Super Plastic filter you usually use...:+}
Looks good
Snook
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Yes, and make the neck slimmer as well coz she looks like a horse right now.

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