Topic: New 1Ds3 samples (Read 8320 times)

ronno · « **on:** October 11, 2007, 12:52:23 pm »

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/review/2...10/11/7180.html

Snook · « **Reply #1 on:** October 11, 2007, 01:09:27 pm »

They look pretty bad to me...
Or just as bad as the first samples from the 1DsMII.
Snook
Sorry I took another look and I have to say Horrible.
The night shot's at 50asa are the worst I have ever seen. Did the moron not use a Tripod???
They are so blurry you could not use them for anything!

Kagetsu · « **Reply #2 on:** October 11, 2007, 06:30:44 pm »

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STOP taking pictures of cats! Thats directed to every underwhelming photographer out there.

See now, I couldn't disagree more... I think there aren't enough cats. ^O^ In fact, I think there should be one big cat, and every time someone wants to take a photo of a cat to show of the latest and greatest technology in camera's, we can all compare it to the one big cat.

Seriously though, I have to agree... Why is there an underwhelming display of quality or even depictive images when new camera's are released.... It's as though they've managed to get their hands on the latest and greatest, and then couple it with possibly the worlds worst lens, and give it to the apprentice, and say go and snap some photo's.

wilburdl · « **Reply #3 on:** October 12, 2007, 03:34:30 pm »

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I love it! The next time someone has a camera shootout, they should find a GretagMacbeth pussycat so we have a reference, sorry Xrite. As Sean Connery's Scottish accent pronounced it in Goldfinger, we need a standardized "poosee".
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Hilarious.

These shots are underwhelming but obviously it's not the camera. My question is what's the qualifier to take home a protype model. Is it that you just have to be in Japan? I find it curious that they'd allow an amateur to play with such an advanced, expensive machine. Do I sound a bit jealous?

John Camp · « **Reply #4 on:** October 12, 2007, 04:11:42 pm »

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These shots are underwhelming but obviously it's not the camera.
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What do you mean, obviously it's not the camera? How do you know that? Maybe it's ALL the camera. Maybe this is a famous, top-line Japanese photographer, shooting the best that the 1Ds3 can do. Maybe somebody from Canon said, "Get out there and shoot some cats and flowers, at least that'll cover up the more obvious defects in this turkey." That seems likely to me, now that I think about it. Then when you get your new camera and it's one big puddle of mud, they'll say, "Hey, you knew that -- you saw the cat pictures." 8-p

JC

RobertJ · « **Reply #5 on:** October 12, 2007, 06:02:50 pm »

Ron, I only trust your "sample" files after seeing your 5D notes ( http://www.pbase.com/r_p/5d_notes ).

Kagetsu · « **Reply #6 on:** October 12, 2007, 07:18:50 pm »

Actually allow me to clear up the myth of who gets to use the newest items in Japan.

I don't know what it's like in the US, but in Japan, you have two major camera retailers (they retail other electronic stuff too, not just camera's)... Anyway, if you were say to go to Shinjuku, the busiest JR Railway station in Japan, there's no less then one of these stores outside or part of each exit... Consider that there are at least 6 seperate exits in Shinjuku, you have at least 12 stores which cater towards camera equipment.

Canon have probably at this stage sent out demo units to all the stores to get interest, they did the same with the 5D many years ago, which I was also there for. In actual fact, a week after they announced it, they'd already put the 1Ds III in their showrooms and repair facilities which also have show rooms. As I was picking up my repaired 5D that day, I noticed, and managed to have a little go.

What I'm trying to get at is this. If you were to go to Japan right now, you'll see that every store that sells camera equipment already has at least one of them on their ground floor, and one on their camera floor. Chances are the boss, of a particular store might take one home for the night and give it a whirl, and in the mean time, they little cat friend may become an overnight celebrity. Basically, yes, anybody can get their hands on it.

Owning or having a camera makes anybody a photographer these days.

David Anderson · « **Reply #7 on:** October 12, 2007, 07:33:09 pm »

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What do you mean, obviously it's not the camera? How do you know that? Maybe it's ALL the camera. Maybe this is a famous, top-line Japanese photographer, shooting the best that the 1Ds3 can do. Maybe somebody from Canon said, "Get out there and shoot some cats and flowers, at least that'll cover up the more obvious defects in this turkey." That seems likely to me, now that I think about it. Then when you get your new camera and it's one big puddle of mud, they'll say, "Hey, you knew that -- you saw the cat pictures." 8-p

JC
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I would credit Canon with a bit more intelligence...

Caracalla · « **Reply #8 on:** October 13, 2007, 12:42:20 am »

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http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/review/2...10/11/7180.html
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It is funny how can these guys get hold of 1Ds MkIII before us

Kagetsu · « **Reply #9 on:** October 13, 2007, 12:44:51 am »

Because it's released in Japan before the rest of the world?

Ray · « **Reply #10 on:** October 13, 2007, 12:07:19 pm »

The policy of not providing inspiring images for prototype cameras goes back several years. I've noticed it time and again. Why, I ask myself, does the camera manufacturer not employ a professional photographer to 'sell' the camera?

I can think of some reasons. I don't know if they are true or not.

(1) The manufacturer does not want to spend the money employing a professional photographer to produce images which will eventually be produced in large number once the camera is released.

(2) The skills of a professional photographer might produce results which are beyond the capability of the average buyer of the camera, leading to dissatisfaction with the product. Consider the current argument about the 3-dimensionality of MFDBs

(3) The prototype camera is not finalised. All sample images are 'sneak' images from devious devotees, and are therefore taken in compromised conditions.

(4) Any inspiring RAW image (which is the only image which will reveal the true potential of the camera) would be subject to piraqcy.

vgogolak · « **Reply #11 on:** October 13, 2007, 10:31:27 pm »

whether its a great example or not, at smaller sizes looks reasonable. When you look at 100% crop, what puzzles me is the BIG differenbce between the DSLR shots and MFDB.
Is it the DR? is it the AA filters?
When MR says its apples and oranges, I think that makes them sound even too close;
here's a 100% comparison. And yes, one SHOULD wait for the production, professionally taken etc etc. But unless the image had motion blur, or poor processing this is NOT a subtle differnce.
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Victor

wilburdl · « **Reply #12 on:** October 13, 2007, 11:16:30 pm »

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whether its a great example or not, at smaller sizes looks reasonable. When you look at 100% crop, what puzzles me is the BIG differenbce between the DSLR shots and MFDB.
Is it the DR? is it the AA filters?
When MR says its apples and oranges, I think that makes them sound even too close;
here's a 100% comparison. And yes, one SHOULD wait for the production, professionally taken etc etc. But unless the image had motion blur, or poor processing this is NOT a subtle differnce.
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Victor
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Could it be that there has always been a difference between the formats themselves? I have always been enamored with the MF look--long before I knew about Digital backs. I think technology has only served to enhance the differences exponentially. No matter how much better 35mm gets over film mf it will never retain the look. And afterall that's what we all strive for in the end--a "look".

Snook · « **Reply #13 on:** October 14, 2007, 10:54:44 am »

Is it me or do most of the images have a smeary noise reduction look to them.. Look in the far ground and everything looks smeared...
Not being sarcastic by any means... I really see them smeary like my F30 used to do sometimes..
Snook

wilburdl · « **Reply #14 on:** October 14, 2007, 11:13:27 am »

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Is it me or do most of the images have a smeary noise reduction look to them.. Look in the far ground and everything looks smeared...
Not being sarcastic by any means... I really see them smeary like my F30 used to do sometimes..
Snook
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I noticed that too. Could be that they didn't take noise reduction off.

Christopher · « **Reply #15 on:** October 14, 2007, 11:47:02 am »

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I noticed that too. Could be that they didn't take noise reduction off.
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Could it just be that these photographs suck ?

I mean sorry but they are really bad. I don't no why Canon even allows such people to show such crap... ok that's a differnt topic.

But come on really if somebody really thinks, that this is the real quality this camera can do than I feel kinda sorry for him.

canmiya · « **Reply #16 on:** October 14, 2007, 04:53:49 pm »

one of the best images from the 1ds3 i have seen to date is the one MR posted on the opening page of LL...http://www.luminous-landscape.com/

imo...this is impressive!!!!

juicy · « **Reply #17 on:** October 14, 2007, 05:30:45 pm »

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Could it just be that these photographs suck ?

Yes.

Cheers,
J

stevecoleccs · « **Reply #18 on:** October 14, 2007, 07:21:15 pm »

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Could it just be that these photographs suck ?

I mean sorry but they are really bad. I don't no why Canon even allows such people to show such crap... ok that's a differnt topic.

But come on really if somebody really thinks, that this is the real quality this camera can do than I feel kinda sorry for him.
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When I read stupid comments like this it makes me feel why in the world I am wasting my time reading comments from idiots.

Christopher · « **Reply #19 on:** October 14, 2007, 07:43:28 pm »

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When I read stupid comments like this it makes me feel why in the world I am wasting my time reading comments from idiots.
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Then why do you read it ? Your writing a coment and you not even talking about the topic. Great work.

So to be very clear. I am not against anyone owning the camera and taking pictures of whatever he wants, but I really don't see the point in showing, bad exposed and motion blured images as a benchmark... I will stick to my statement, that these pictures are crap and I'm not talking about the subject. I'm only looking at the image quality.

How can anyone dare to compare these images to anything ? I mean I can produce such ***** images with my 1DsMk2 or even with a P45, but does that also mean that the camere can't give any better results ? I don't think so...

Author Topic: New 1Ds3 samples (Read 8320 times)

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