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« on: August 06, 2007, 05:45:01 pm »

I have always used Mac desktop computers for Photoshop and other graphic apps. At work, we use several of the newest generation desktops (the Mac Pros).

At home, for my own use, I'm still using a G4 desktop. It's time to replace it -- it's dreadfully SLOW for large files (100MB and larger). Currently, I don't have enough extra cash to buy a Mac Pro (and screen). With that in mind, do you think that I will be happy with a new iMac (with the 24" screen) for Photoshop? I'm guessing that it will be lightening fast compaired to my G4.

NOTE: I'm a huge Mac fan. I've used Apple gear since the beginning. I know that I can't add PCI cards to an iMac, etc. I guess that what I want to know is whether the iMac's cache, etc. can handle large files ... having many open on the screen at once.
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« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2007, 04:32:30 am »

The new iMacs look pretty good. I wish you could get the 2.8ghz in the 20" then I'd get a 23" screen as my main and the iMac as palettes.
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« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2007, 10:41:15 am »

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At home, for my own use, I'm still using a G4 desktop. It's time to replace it -- it's dreadfully SLOW for large files (100MB and larger). Currently, I don't have enough extra cash to buy a Mac Pro (and screen). With that in mind, do you think that I will be happy with a new iMac (with the 24" screen) for Photoshop? I'm guessing that it will be lightening fast compaired to my G4. [a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=131830\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]

Just a note that I, too, am using an old circa 1999 G4 at home. I upgraded to a 2GHz processor, a better video card (off ebay), a bigger hard drive (scavenged from a dead PC), and a DVD burner (from the same dead PC) and it's definitely still usable. It was what I could afford but it has worked out very well. I'm running CS3, the latest version of OSX, and can even run DVD Studio Pro and Final Cut Pro. Just something to think about if you want to try to get a few more years out of your current Mac.

Oh, I should mention that I'm on a MacPro at work. My home Mac isn't nearly as frustrating to use now that I've upgraded the processor. In fact, it isn't frustrating at all, even compared to the new one at work. But I still realllllyyyyy want a new MacPro for at home.  

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« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2007, 12:55:12 pm »

I had the logic board go on my Powerbook (1 Ghz).  Rather than relplace the logic board, I upgraded to a Mac Book (2.16Ghz).  It's lots faster and makes working much easier.  It's a way big improvememnt for working with LR.  Now I only have to pay it off before I can upgrade the Ram to 2 Gb and get PS CS3.  

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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2007, 01:29:54 am »

The new iMacs have the problem that they come with glossy screens. This not only brings on problematic reflections, the colors are also not displayed as well as with matte screens, but more saturated, enhanced.

iMacs are desktops with laptop parts, which makes them much slower than a MacPro desktop tower, and this is why you have to replace them more often than a desktop, which is also upgradable.

I have an iMac G5,  not even two years old, and it's getting slow after the latest Lightroom upgrade.

I don't think I'll get another iMac, especially with that awful glossy screen, which is better for TV watching than for photo editing.

Regarding laptops, don't forget you get much, much less color resolution, 8 bit (or is it 6 bit) in comparison to 16 bit on an iMac or a MacPro.

This (and other restraints of the compact size) makes even the basic iMac beats the best PowerBook in regard to image quality.
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« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2007, 04:48:33 pm »

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The new iMacs have the problem that they come with glossy screens. This not only brings on problematic reflections, the colors are also not displayed as well as with matte screens, but more saturated, enhanced.

iMacs are desktops with laptop parts, which makes them much slower than a MacPro desktop tower, and this is why you have to replace them more often than a desktop, which is also upgradable.

I have an iMac G5,  not even two years old, and it's getting slow after the latest Lightroom upgrade.

I don't think I'll get another iMac, especially with that awful glossy screen, which is better for TV watching than for photo editing.

Regarding laptops, don't forget you get much, much less color resolution, 8 bit (or is it 6 bit) in comparison to 16 bit on an iMac or a MacPro.

This (and other restraints of the compact size) makes even the basic iMac beats the best PowerBook in regard to image quality.
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I decided to switch to a glossy screen for my MacBook Pro recently, and just upgraded to the latest one ... again with a glossy screen.

Personally I like the glossy screen better.  Both screens reflect ... one is just diffused. That can cause problems as well... compounded by the fact that you might not even realize the reflection is there introducing a bias and surprisingly not very noticeable.   Since your eyes are focused on the screen, the reflections on a glossy screen are very out of focus.  Serious reflections can be controlled and normally eliminated with slight screen adjustment, just like a mirror, whereas with a matte screen a serious reflection can't be eliminated ... the glare will still be there.  The screen is actually viewable in much brighter light than a matte screen (outdoors for example).  I personally like the extra saturation and blacker blacks ... maybe it's because I use lustre and gloss papers for 95% of what I do, so the blacks actually look closer.  I have several friends that have also moved to a glossy screen after playing with lightroom on my screen.  Takes a little getting used to, but I'll never go back.

One thing I like about the iMac is it is a scratch resistant GLASS screen ... you can actually clean the thing.  Howver,if you want matte, I'm sure there will be ways to apply a matte shield .. I think there are already some out there.

As far as laptop screens vs desktops, you are right, there is a technology difference. laptops use a 6-bit LCD screen with dithering to simulate colors beyond their native 262,144 colors. Dithering works very well, and can display millions of colors to the human eye, but not true 24 bit color, and not as good as an 8-bit screen like an iMac or Monitor, which can deliver full 24-bit color.

For those that missed this, www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-8741-9027  is a nice review of the new 15" Macbook Pro, which probably has the best LCD screen in a laptop for photoshop right now because of the LED light source.  He compares the Macbook gamut to an iMac gamut in the article ... the iMac clearly wins.  Laptops won't catch up for a while because the 8-bit screens are just too power hungry.
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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2007, 07:30:10 pm »

New iMac teardown:

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...w_i macs.html

The 20" model uses a Philips LCD (LG Philips LM201 WE3). The glass overlay appears to be tinted.

Here is another link describing calibration results:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=24321625

I just ordered a Mac Pro 2.66Ghz quad core with 4 gigs of ram and 2 500GB hard drives. I upgraded the video card to the ATI X1900XT.

I was not happy reading about with the new iMacs screen problems. I will be selling my current 2.0 Ghz core duo 20" iMac with 2 gigs of ram and 500 GB hard drive (matte screen + 256vram video card) as soon as my new system is set up.
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