Forced bleeding

[alex]

This may sound odd, but does anyone know a way to force an inkjet printer (a P800 in my case) to bleed ink into the paper? The effect I'm after would be similar to what happens when printing with PK inks on the wrong side of glossy fine art paper, with the image edge bleeding rather like watercolour paint. Presumably it requires a non-absorbent surface for this to happen, or is there some other combination of ink type and paper finish that causes this?

Alex

[Richard.Wills]

Could try misting the prints with windex...

[Lessbones]

works extremely well with some dye-based inks and just water, the cheaper the ink the better.  With pigments it's going to be tough unless, as you mentioned, you use a non-inkjet coated paper stock, like something for offset printing, or a synthetic like yupo

[alex]

Thanks, that's what I suspected. I may have to find a cheap printer using dye inks. I certainly don't want to spray ink all over the inside of my P800!

Alex

[alex]

So - any recommendations for a modestly-priced printer using specifically dye-based inks for up to A3? Preferably an Epson, as that's what I'm used to, but open to suggestions. Should be happy to work with heavyweight art papers, too.

Thanks for suggestions

Alex

[dgberg]

I believe there may be two that size from Epson. The XP15000 and ET8550.
I have the 8550 and it is superb for dye hi gloss prints. At $699 it is more than the 15000.
Matte prints are decent but not nearly in the class of the hi gloss ones on white film with dye inks.

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[Lessbones]

I would get a tank printer like the ET8550 dan mentioned, then get some bulk ink of the cheapest kind imaginable.  I've tried with some of the newer epson dye inks and they were too high quality to bleed even with soapy water.  You want some real no-name stuff.  I have an XP15000 that I tried to do a CISS with and it was a nightmare-- otherwise it has minuscule cartridges.  I don't think the OG inks for that model will do what you're looking for, they're too good.