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Epson Discontinued Ink Alternatives
« on: January 06, 2025, 08:33:33 pm »

Hi All -

I have an Epson R2880, yes, still soldering on as I've printed something religiously every week or so ever since I bought it many years ago, and as a result, no clogs that a simple cleaning cycle couldn't resolve.

But now it appears Epson has discontinued their inks for this printer.

Does anyone have any positive, low maintenance alternatives?


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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2025, 11:31:08 am »

Exactly what hit me with my lovely HP B9180 with which I did a lot of black/white printing. In the end, the printer was taken to bits and those bits found their way to the scrap heap. I have never replaced it. I have not printed since. In a way, I’m kinda thankful: it was very expensive, and as of no commercial value, a pointless exercise, somewhat akin to having a speedboat.

I suppose that if I lived in a town or city where good commercial printing companies existed, I might be tempted to have the occasional large print made; as I don’t live in such a scene, there's no longer even the temptation to buy a zillion pixies sensor camera. On my website or anywhere else online, it turned out that the old iPhone 13 Mini was just as useful. In a way, I find that kinda sad, both in general terms in the sense of what have we come to, and also as it applies to me, personally.

Digital waters and drowned babies.

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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2025, 12:02:11 pm »

As we found out some time ago the money is not in the printing but in the mounting and framing.
Except we badly need the printing to drive that other work to us. Canvas Gallery wrapping, canvas to gator board, Chromaluxe metal prints and framing is 75% of our total income.
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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2025, 12:38:19 pm »

Hi All -
I have an Epson R2880, yes, still soldering on as I've printed something religiously every week or so ever since I bought it many years ago, and as a result, no clogs that a simple cleaning cycle couldn't resolve.
Does anyone have any positive, low maintenance alternatives?

Have you looked into ConeColor ink at InkJetMall.com?
https://shop.inkjetmall.com/Stylus-Photo-R2880
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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2025, 04:15:14 pm »

Hi All -

I have an Epson R2880, yes, still soldering on as I've printed something religiously every week or so ever since I bought it many years ago, and as a result, no clogs that a simple cleaning cycle couldn't resolve.

But now it appears Epson has discontinued their inks for this printer.

Does anyone have any positive, low maintenance alternatives?


Thanks,
Steve Hendrix/CI
Steve, if you want to continue using pigment ink for durability and 13" width, look at the Epson P700 and P900 or the Canon Pro-300. It looks like the R2880 has been abandoned by Epson. I have the same problem.

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Re: Epson Discontinued Ink Alternatives
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2025, 05:20:22 pm »


Hi All -
I have an Epson R2880, yes, still soldering on as I've printed something religiously every week or so ever since I bought it many years ago, and as a result, no clogs that a simple cleaning cycle couldn't resolve.
Does anyone have any positive, low maintenance alternatives?

Have you looked into ConeColor ink at InkJetMall.com?
https://shop.inkjetmall.com/Stylus-Photo-R2880


Thanks Keith, I considered this.

But while I print regularly, I don't print high volume, and I would probably just upgrade the printer before diving into the ConeColor system.

I've found a few places that stillhave some stock, so maybe grab some of those and chew on it a bit more.

Thanks Keith and everyone else!

It was introduced 16 years ago, from my records. I guess I've had mine for about 11-12 years.


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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2025, 06:12:18 pm »

We directed one of our customers to:
 
https://www.swiftink.com/printer/epson/stylus-photo/stylus-photo-r2880/
 
- and they have the R2880 compatible ink in stock. Our customer said that it works well. And the genuine Epson R2880 ink as been on back order for two months with nothing shipping soon.

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Re: Epson Discontinued Ink Alternatives
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2025, 08:54:22 am »

Snip...In a way, I find that kinda sad, both in general terms in the sense of what have we come to, and also as it applies to me, personally.

Digital waters and drowned babies.

Rob, I don't concern myself what it is we have come to, as I have no influence, control or input that is going to change things in any meaningful way.

However, I swim in those digital waters and would say "come on in, the water is fine, worry less, smile more".

 :)
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« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2025, 09:14:53 am »

As we found out some time ago the money is not in the printing but in the mounting and framing.
Except we badly need the printing to drive that other work to us. Canvas Gallery wrapping, canvas to gator board, Chromaluxe metal prints and framing is 75% of our total income.

Dan I find this fascinating, and kinda ironic. I mean I assume (maybe naively) that good print-making is much harder to find than mounting services. Like mounting services seem to be everywhere incl big-box stores, but print-making expertise not so much.

But maybe I'm misunderstanding, because I'm picturing people running around with prints they ordered online or wherever and now seeking someone to mount them. Or do you just mean the upsell options for mounting is 75% of the income, and if you only offered mounting (no printing) you'd have very little traffic? And ditto if you only offered print-making and no mounting? So it's actually people running around with digital files they want printed but they're mostly focussed on the mounting options more than the print itself (because they don't know anything about prints anyway?).

(Realize it's off the OP topic, just curious about the market.)
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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2025, 09:28:09 am »

We really do not mount and frame anyone elses prints except ours. Almost all of the printing we do gets mounted by us so it is 100% an upsell.
Since we frame without mats or glass most of our mounting and framing work is with the canvas we print.
My apologies too for being off topic.
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« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2025, 09:37:38 am »


That's really interesting insight, thanks Dan! Cheers!
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« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2025, 10:31:31 am »

Rob, I don't concern myself what it is we have come to, as I have no influence, control or input that is going to change things in any meaningful way.

However, I swim in those digital waters and would say "come on in, the water is fine, worry less, smile more".

 :)


Oh yeah, I've been splashing about in that dark lake too - ever since I got my D200, which the wholesaler told me was the first one on the island. Last time I tried it, it still worked, which is more than I can say for the D700 that arrived to replace it, though for some unaccountable reason I found myself mostly leaving it at home, taking the smaller out on walks. Weight? Hoping to “save it” for more serious work that never really came? Now, it’s the 200’s turn to lie dormant, as the iPhone renders it redundant in its turn.

I really don’t know where lieth the problem, beyond simply in my head. However, you’ve known me long enough to understand my attitude towards commission and self-motivation: the former brings something real to the table, while the latter smacks of the battery bunny, running round in circles until it, too, finally stops. To quote again that famous Donovan line: the greatest problem the amateur has is finding a reason to make a photograph. Unfortunately, I subscribe to that. When I was starting out in photography, way before it became my living, my mind was already fixated on the time when it would be something I was doing for real. In that sense, I had never been an amateur, unless in the literal meaning of being in love with it.

Where in the photographic firmament I currently reside is anyone’s guess; for sure, I don't hold the answer.

What I have to admit is this: against all logic, I still read bythom, over and over again, as if buying another instrument somehow held all the answers that I’m looking for, when I know that’s simply not the case. ;-(

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« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2025, 11:57:48 am »

Regarding motivation:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=S5xLV7YJklg&feature=shared

He seems to find it, but maybe life in LA offers better prospects for photographic expression if people are your thing. Even so, following his videos for a while, the freelance insecurities run deep. That’s honest enough for me.

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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2025, 06:01:10 am »

Regarding motivation:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=S5xLV7YJklg&feature=shared

He seems to find it, but maybe life in LA offers better prospects for photographic expression if people are your thing. Even so, following his videos for a while, the freelance insecurities run deep. That’s honest enough for me.

Once again apologies for going off-topic, must be annoying for some here. Perhaps such ramblings belong elsewhere?

Anyway, thanks for the link, strange mix of work, but it obviously works for him.

Apart from a couple of part time jobs on leaving art college I spent all of my working life in freelance self employment so I can empathise with the insecurities with going it alone. When working the stress of delivering to tight briefs and schedules was ever present and when not working the worry about if and when the next gig would appear gnawed away as did the financial pressures.

Since retiring - do creatives ever truly retire? - the motivation has never been a problem. Lack of opportunity due to health issues have been the constant restraints over the last two and a half years. That said, I have a couple of trips booked so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that I can actually make it back to what it is I truly love.

And, yes, equipment is never the answer or the solution.   
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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2025, 11:46:55 am »

To get back on topic, any more insights into this issue?

Also, I've been looking at the 13" Epson XP-15000 as a dye ink replacement for my pigment ink R2880 (yes I know the issues around dye vs pigment inks). It was introduced in 2018, so will it be obsolete soon? Also, on the Epson website all ink cartridges for this printer show as not in stock. I have a Epson support call later this morning and I'll let you know how that goes.
Any insights on the XP-15000?
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« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2025, 12:04:16 pm »

No input on the 15000 but I can tell you how great the 8550 is.
 6 ink dye inset makes the most beautiful hi gloss prints. As good as the cibachrome from 40 years ago.
 Hi gloss paper and white film like Pictorico Pro White Film, Graphica White Film, Canon Pro Platinum and even Epson Premium Glossy.
Other papers are acceptable but nothing like the gloss. Worth every penny.
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« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2025, 01:17:14 pm »

Piezography?

Why is it some Epson printers have their native inks discontinued a few years after the introduction of the printer whilst others such as my Stylus Pro 3880 inks are still available 15 years on and including direct from the Epson website? Popularity? Formulae?

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« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2025, 01:27:21 pm »

Piezography?

Why is it some Epson printers have their native inks discontinued a few years after the introduction of the printer whilst others such as my Stylus Pro 3880 inks are still available 15 years on and including direct from the Epson website? Popularity? Formulae?
Good question. Tried to talk to Epson support about the XP-15000 cartridge availability but all I got was a person who just read from her screen to tell me which cartridges to use, but had no idea about availability. I'll try again once I'm back home.
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« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2025, 01:28:00 pm »

Which Epson (Pro line) printers have their native inks discontinued after a few years?

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« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2025, 03:12:37 pm »

Which Epson (Pro line) printers have their native inks discontinued after a few years?

"When someone says, That's a good question. You can be sure it's a lot better than the answer you're going to get." -Source Unknown

I wasn't referring to Pro line printers exclusively, but merely asking the question about what are the decisive factors in the discontinuation of inks in general.
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