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abaazov

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« on: January 19, 2007, 08:17:18 am »

ok i know i need one of these two cameras, but i cant decide which one. it will be used mainly as a second camera, to carry around. anybody have any reasons why i should go with one rather than the other?
any help in choosing would be appreciated...
TIA
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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2007, 10:48:16 am »

to be more precise, can i know which of these two cameras will perform better in indoor situations. will i miss the raw capabilities if i shoot mainly "home" pictures, family pictures, and other relatively low light situations?
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2007, 11:50:21 am »

Compare noise in low light environments.
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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2007, 11:52:37 am »

I like the G7, but can't make a direct comparison between the 2.
Build quality is excellent, size is good. Image quality is good, but if you push the iso up in dark situations then noise will quickly become a problem, nothing suprising here, any small sensor camera will fare the same. I like that I can use my canon flash right on the G7, so flash shots are excellent, if not awkward with a flash larger than the camera. The G7 has issues, if you read the review here you will be aware of them, but it is a great carry around camera in my opinion, even with the shortcomings.
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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2007, 01:11:40 pm »

thats my biggest worry actually, flash shots. its reassuring to see you find the flash shots on the g7 excellent.
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« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2007, 01:27:16 pm »

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thats my biggest worry actually, flash shots. its reassuring to see you find the flash shots on the g7 excellent.
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I read various complaints in the dpreview forum about the flash performance of the G7, in terms of the extreme slowness of the shot-to-shot performance.  I will try and dig up that.
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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2007, 01:30:29 pm »

Read through the below about the shutter-lag with flash which they claim makes the camera literally unusable under certain conditions.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp...essage=21078215
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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2007, 02:21:47 pm »

has anyone had the same problem with the lumix flash? this is quite deflating as i was all ready to go out and buy the g7. thanks for the link aaykay.
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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2007, 10:24:25 pm »

abaazov,

I don't have an opinion of the G7, but I can comment on the Panasonic as I've been using the Lumix LX1 as my pocket camera for the last year.  The LX2 is only a slight tweak of the LX1 - it gains 2 more megapixels, a revised LCD, and a more aggresive software noise engine as far as I can see.  I opted not to upgrade after seeing sample images of the two cameras.

The Lumix will shoot well for day light and scenery shots.  The 16x9 image size and WA lens are really nice.  RAW files.  Some optical stabilization.  Great menu layout for a compact, easy to get to shutter, aperture, ISO, image quality.  Flash works, buts it's a compact point and shoot and the flash is typical of any I've used.

The big Lumix negative along with many cameras in its crop: sensor noise in low/moderate light.  I find ISO 400 almost unusable and even ISO 200 to have distracting noise levels.  Someone please build a low noise, fast fixed lens, 8-10 megapixel compact!  Mine also lacks threads for any filters, don't know about the LX2 (I miss having a handy way to attach a circular polarizer).

You can see plenty of Lumix shots on Flickr.  

LX2:

http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=all&q=Lumix+LX2&m=text

LX1 in my account:

http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=95742421%4...umix+LX1&m=text

Cameras I'd look at in addition to the G7 and LX2: the newer Fujis, the Ricoh GR, and the Sigma DP1 if it ever goes to market.  Overall, I've been happy with my Lumix and it has been the right camera for me given my choices at the time.

Good luck in your search.
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2007, 07:18:09 pm »

I have got a Lumix LX1. I am an experienced Photographer, my experience with the LX1 is good and the noise is on this type of camera should not be an isue. Its obvious not because of Panasonic or the LX1, its just the smal chip and the noise you get with every compact didgital camera (more or less!).
You can solve the noise problem with a good Software. The O.I.S. is in my opinion very good. Manual focus works well by pressing a button up and down.

Its a good camera for a holiday with a great WW lense and it will deliver great Wide Angle Pictures if you know how to use it, but its not a multi purpouse professional tool.
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« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2007, 10:58:48 pm »

I too have an LX1 as my pocket(able) camera, for times when I don't want to carry a DSLR.  The noise is noticeable, but bearable.  I love the size, ease of manual controls, and very fine lens, as well as the raw files.  I don't love the lack of an optical viewfinder, but I've learned to live with that.  

Some years ago, I had a Canon G3 as my first decent digital camera.  It made very good pictures, and had decent manual controls (not as good as the LX1, though).  It also got me into shooting raw -- I don't understand why Canon dropped the raw format from the G7...  

But the main reason I went to the LX1 over a G7 or something similar is the size of the camera -- the G series are quite a bit bigger, and a small, nearly pocket-size camera was my main goal, in contrast to the DSLR.  The LX1 is a nice compromise for that purpose.

It definitely performs better in good light, but I've used it indoors and in shadow, and it functions pretty well, considering the constraints of sensor size, etc.  The flash is not pretty, but it's reasonably effective indoors, which is when I've needed it.  I haven't noticed any shot-to-shot delay problems with flash, such as those described above with the G7.
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