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Benny Profane

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Photoshop out does itself
« on: May 24, 2023, 01:54:00 pm »

Photoshop introduces an AI function in a beta version of the new release that will make rank amateurs push button pro retouchers. Generative Fill is a major advance. Here's one video that demonstrates it's power https://www.youtube.com/live/63xd7qu83FU?feature=share  Not really a Scott Kelby fan, but, he talks to the advanced amateur or aspiring Photoshop retoucher well. The image extensions out of thin air are just amazing. You can argue about the ethics or morals of all this, but, accept it, because it will be here for a long time. Don't fight the tech. One thing I'm still not sure of is the quality of resolution of the added image data.Does it match a nice 26mp Raw base image?

Now I really have to buy a new computer, so I can use this latest version of Photoshop. Looks like a new Studio for me.

A nice explanation in text: https://gregbenzphotography.com/photography-tips/photoshop-generative-fill-text-to-image-ai/
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Re: Photoshop out does itself
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2023, 06:40:22 pm »

Does it match a nice 26mp Raw base image?
In this version, the AI is limited to 1kx1k resolution. Smaller selections can help but that's the current limit per selection prior to Generative Fill/AI.
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Re: Photoshop out does itself
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2023, 08:37:43 am »

In this version, the AI is limited to 1kx1k resolution. Smaller selections can help but that's the current limit per selection prior to Generative Fill/AI.

If the Generative Fill is being used to remove an object in a high resolution file as opposed to adding a brand new object, would it not use/sample pixels from the high res file just like using the Spot Healing Brush?

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Re: Photoshop out does itself
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2023, 09:16:55 am »

If the Generative Fill is being used to remove an object in a high resolution file as opposed to adding a brand new object, would it not use/sample pixels from the high res file just like using the Spot Healing Brush?
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Re: Photoshop out does itself
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2023, 11:40:40 am »

I played with this new feature, starting with a scenic I generated using the free text-to-image DiffusionBee app for Mac. Incredible stuff!

As Andrew noted, there is a resolution change visible along the edges of the original in the final render.

Benny, these were done on a base model 2020 M1 MacBook Pro so your computer doesn't have to be THAT new ;-)
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Re: Photoshop out does itself
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2023, 01:26:45 pm »

Another totally computer-generated example. More fun in DiffusionBee, this time extending the canvas using GF and adding GF elements in the PS beta, followed by adding a cinema glow in ON1 Photo RAW.
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Re: Photoshop out does itself
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2023, 09:00:59 pm »

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Re: Photoshop out does itself
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2023, 06:03:56 am »

Your excitement about the new Generative Fill feature in Photoshop is contagious! I completely agree - the power of this tool to extend images is just mind-blowing. I'm sure it will be a game-changer for both amateur and professional retouchers alike.

As for the resolution of the added image data, @Digitaldog mentioned that it's currently limited to 1kx1k per selection, but I'm hopeful that Adobe will continue to refine this in future versions. The tech world is moving so quickly, and we're constantly being surprised by the new advancements.
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Re: Photoshop out does itself
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2023, 12:00:56 pm »

The 1Kx1K limitation may change in the future. Much has to do with the demand on the Adobe servers. And all this is 'beta' anyway.
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Re: Photoshop out does itself
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2023, 12:25:27 pm »

No.

Too bad. I was comparing it with some of the other tools in Photoshop for removing "extraneous objects" and it can work wonders.

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Re: Photoshop out does itself
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2023, 12:43:15 pm »

More of my own examples.

The Torii Gate was created in Photoshop alone, starting with a blank canvas, while my other examples started with the DiffusionBee results.
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Re: Photoshop out does itself
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2023, 12:45:04 pm »

Another set showing GF for expansion as well as changing/adding elements.
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Re: Photoshop out does itself
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2023, 01:02:51 pm »

Too bad. I was comparing it with some of the other tools in Photoshop for removing "extraneous objects" and it can work wonders.
It can, with a pixel-per-selection limitation at this time.
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Re: Photoshop out does itself
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2023, 02:13:10 pm »

Or you can do this online with Adobe Firefly, with commercial limitations.

I've been to this place ;-)
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Re: Photoshop out does itself
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2023, 04:24:12 pm »

Back to PS only (with white canvas), GF'd result GF'd again to enlarge further and post-processed with Radiant Photo for color.
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Re: Photoshop out does itself
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2023, 06:53:15 pm »

Or you can do this online with Adobe Firefly . . .

Adobe Firefly created my steampunk camera:

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Re: Photoshop out does itself
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2023, 06:55:03 pm »

Very cool Chris! But it takes film, right? ;-)
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Re: Photoshop out does itself
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2023, 07:15:20 pm »

Very cool Chris! But it takes film, right?

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Re: Photoshop out does itself
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2023, 07:19:16 pm »

Using the Realistic Vision V2.0 model in DiffusionBee and GF'ing an expanded canvas in PS (!!).
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