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StephaneB

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Hahnemühle canned profiles - Print with Preview
« on: April 16, 2023, 02:57:48 am »

I have had tons of problems with print colour management recently. I am on MacOS 13, no idea if that is the cause. It could be entirely me.

Anyway, being incapable of producing profiles with a consistent behaviour, which had not been a problem for me for years, I resorted to Hahnemuhle's canned profiles, they are not bad, I use them when the imposed settings work for me.

This time I had lots of trouble. Print proofing in Lightroom is nice, but the print is nothing like it. Print proofing in Photoshop is very different with some pictures, especially with very saturated colours. And then the print itself is something else entirely.

And then I noticed that Hahnemuhle says "Print with Preview" on the PDF documentation of the profile. It looks like they actually mean it. I tried as a last resort and got a print that was reasonably close to my print proofing in Lightroom.

So, with one profile I get5 different renderings:
  • Proofing with Lightroom
  • Printing with Lightroom
  • Proofing with Photoshop
  • Printing with Photoshop
  • Printing with Preview (the closest)

I have a similar behaviour with my own profiles but did not try them with Preview.

This seems to affect only colour pictures. I hav enot seen problems in black and white, albeit tried only two photos.

I attach a photo where all this manifests itself clearly is this. The really off colours are blue and green on the top half.
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Re: Hahnemühle canned profiles - Print with Preview
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2023, 12:13:52 pm »

What printer are you using?
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Re: Hahnemühle canned profiles - Print with Preview
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2023, 12:14:30 pm »

Ventura is a mess in terms of color management settings (specifically the setting of the ColorSync radio button). Check the forums, it's been discussed many times. You'll have to check all print settings every time, you can't, unlike older OSs rely on them being sticky.
If all is correctly working, printing and soft proofing in Lightroom Classic will match Photoshop exactly.
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