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rogerxnz

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See pic showing exposed threaded rod and knob resting on the centre column.

The end result is the vertical angle adjustment has failed because the knob has fallen off and, before that happened, there was a dead spot where turning the knob did not change the angle and I had to push the head until the knob engaged with the threaded part of the rod.

If it has happened before and is it repairable economically?
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Re: Am I the first to wear out the gearing on Manfrotto 410 geared head?
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2023, 06:52:21 am »

if you did not break the knob;
i have repaired mine myself; once you dive into the way the mechanism works it will be obvious how to repair it.

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Re: Am I the first to wear out the gearing on Manfrotto 410 geared head?
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2023, 10:47:06 am »

Nope!  It's a shitty head and they tend to wear out or break.  It should be better for the money.  Amongst architectural photographers, this is pretty well known. 

I'd recommend the Arca Swiss Cube as a replacement; it's the best geared head on the market.  The occasion I would recommend against it is if you do a lot of work on the beach or near sand.  The gears in the Cube are partially exposed, so constant sand exposure can do some damage.  In this case, I'd go for the Arca Swiss D4 Geared Head, and it's $450 cheaper than the Cube. 
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Re: Am I the first to wear out the gearing on Manfrotto 410 geared head?
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2023, 09:57:34 pm »

Nope!  It's a shitty head and they tend to wear out or break.  It should be better for the money.  Amongst architectural photographers, this is pretty well known. 

I'd recommend the Arca Swiss Cube as a replacement; it's the best geared head on the market.  The occasion I would recommend against it is if you do a lot of work on the beach or near sand.  The gears in the Cube are partially exposed, so constant sand exposure can do some damage.  In this case, I'd go for the Arca Swiss D4 Geared Head, and it's $450 cheaper than the Cube.

I have experience with the Manfrotto as well, they do become sloppy from use but I have never had one come apart. I now use the Area Swiss Leveller 75 which is great. It only provides 15 degrees of adjustment which is much more limited than the Cube, but enough for the vast majority of my architectural projects. For the rare instances where I need more range of movement I keep a Markins M10 ball head in the bag.
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Re: Am I the first to wear out the gearing on Manfrotto 410 geared head?
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2023, 02:54:26 pm »

Great Lord Roger! You brute! ;) I sympathise - I've gone through four 405's in twelve years, which are the bigger version of yours. The 405/410 are sadly fragile but their utility (to me anyway) in time sensitive situations is unmatched. I'm in Auckland, and know of an engineering wizard. The approach is sensitive so please DM me and we can chat. :)


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Re: Am I the first to wear out the gearing on Manfrotto 410 geared head?
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2023, 08:32:42 am »

The most extensive write up of Arca Heads that Im aware of (bias alert: I wrote it; we sell them).

https://www.photo-digitaltransitions.com/arca-swiss-heads-the-essential-primer/

Tripod heads can last a lifetime, and be used with many of cameras during that lifetime. In my opinion it makes far far more sense to take the pain of buying the best one for you right off the bat than to keep replacing and upgrading cheaper ones. All (tripod head) roads leave eventually to Arca; you might as well start there.
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