Goodby Solux

[digitaldog]

Just got this incase anyone is still interested in the amazing Solux bulbs (yeah, they run hot, waste energy compared to LEDs but still so great for proofing):

Dear Valued Customer:
 
Tailored Lighting is closing its doors after nearly 35 years.
TLI will not be taking any more orders after December 22th.
 
It’s been a good run but at this stage in my life I’ve decide to
call it a day. I like to think with your help, we’ve helped to make
the world a better place in our own little way.
 
Only days remain on your chance to stock up on SoLux.
SoLux bulbs have virtually limitless shelf life so stock up!
 
Remaining Inventory:
 
18003: (50W 4700K/36 Degree "Flood")
18008: (50W 3500K/36 Degree "Flood")
 
35001: (35W 4700K/10 Degree "Narrow Spot")
35002: (35W 4700K/17 Degree “Spot”)
35003: (35W 4700K/36 Degree "Flood")
35008: (35W 3500K/36 Degree "Flood")
 
BB35001: (Black Back 35W 4700K/10 Degree)
 
Stock up on SoLux light sources. 25% discount with FREE ground shipping.
We will not charge your credit card until the order with your discounts is shipped.
Your final order confirmation will reflect your 25% savings along with free US Postal Shipping.
Limited time offer. In addition to the stated discounts above, for a limited time we are offering
35% discount on orders of 100 bulbs or more (mixing and matching allowed). All prior sales excluded.
Buy Now! Limited quantities. Offer valid for 48 contiguous states.
Prior sales excluded. Act Now!
 
Kind Regards,
Kevin

Spread the word if you know of those who still use or want them.

[Lessbones]

Oh wow, damn.  I never did get on the solux train, but have always been wanting at least a small setup...  I'd be really curious to see pics of some people's Solux setups if anyone wants to share.  Really a shame since there probably will never be anything quite like them again.  Now do I buy a few just for the hell of it?....

[digitaldog]

See Joes recipe here:
http://digitaldog.net/files/16TheRightLightpart2.pdf

[Czornyj]

They're produced by EIKO in EU, wonder if they also quit production here

https://shop.eiko-europe.de/SOLUX/SoLux-Daylight/SoLux-MR16-GU5-3-4700K-10-12V-35W.html

Unless you need UV in SPD I prefer SunLike TRI-R LEDs anyway.

[Rand47]

Just got this incase anyone is still interested in the amazing Solux bulbs (yeah, they run hot, waste energy compared to LEDs but still so great for proofing):

Dear Valued Customer:
 
Tailored Lighting is closing its doors after nearly 35 years.
TLI will not be taking any more orders after December 22th.
 
It’s been a good run but at this stage in my life I’ve decide to
call it a day. I like to think with your help, we’ve helped to make
the world a better place in our own little way.
…

Stock up on SoLux light sources. 25% discount with FREE ground shipping.
We will not charge your credit card until the order with your discounts is shipped.
Your final order confirmation will reflect your 25% savings along with free US Postal Shipping.
Limited time offer. In addition to the stated discounts above, for a limited time we are offering
35% discount on orders of 100 bulbs or more (mixing and matching allowed). All prior sales excluded.
Buy Now!  ;DLimited quantities. Offer valid for 48 contiguous states.
Prior sales excluded. Act Now!
 
Kind Regards,
Kevin

Spread the word if you know of those who still use or want them.

Thanks for the heads-up, Andrew.   I ordered another set for my viewing station.   
OK, here’s your challenge from those of us who have benefitted / depended on your advice over the years…      Find us the BEST M11 type LEDs we can use once our Solux’s have bit the dust.   The advertising FUD on all the LED options makes it almost impossible for us “non-experts” in color science to have a clue.

Rand

[routlaw]

I've used Solux in the past, but find this companies LED lights to be far superior on many levels. Its a deep website with many different product applications so spend sometime delving into it. I use them exclusively now in my studio and love them.

https://www.waveformlighting.com

Hope this helps.

[digitaldog]

Just ordered 6 BR30s bulbs for the office (older LEDs suck at dimming and needed an excuse to replace them).

[Frans Waterlander]

A couple of questions regarding the SoLux 12V MR-16 4700K and 5000K halogen bulbs:
1. Will Eiko continue to produce these bulbs and if so, will they be available in the US?
2. Not that I know of any, but are there other companies making these kind of bulbs?
3. Are there alternatives, like LEDs, with comparable spectra, CRI, etc, perferable 12V MR-16?
I find it interesting that Kevin didn't point to alternatives in his announcement.

[digitaldog]

A couple of questions regarding the SoLux 12V MR-16 4700K and 5000K halogen bulbs:
1. Will Eiko continue to produce these bulbs and if so, will they be available in the US?
2. Not that I know of any, but are there other companies making these kind of bulbs?
3. Are there alternatives, like LEDs, with comparable spectra, CRI, etc, perferable 12V MR-16?
I find it interesting that Kevin didn't point to alternatives in his announcement.

A couple of answers that may or may not be accepted (you never know with some folks posting here.... )
1. Ask Eiko.
2. No.
3. CRI is mostly marketing rubbish**. You'd expect someone who wrote ("Spectral purity is represented by the CRI (color rendering index)" and a graph supporting the footnote below would understand this.
Why should Kevin do so (rhetorical question). But could ask him. Need an email address?

**Both a Solux 48 and a "full spectrum" tube from home depot may have a CRI of 97. I can assure you the Home Depot bulb has a giant mercury spike and some spectral dead spots. 
A better metric is called CQS (15 very colorful patches). That doesn't tell us about the spectrum which is even a better way to evaluate the illuminant. 

[Frans Waterlander]

A couple of answers that may or may not be accepted (you never know with some folks posting here.... )
1. Ask Eiko.
2. No.
3. CRI is mostly marketing rubbish**. You'd expect someone who wrote ("Spectral purity is represented by the CRI (color rendering index)" and a graph supporting the footnote below would understand this.
Why should Kevin do so (rhetorical question). But could ask him. Need an email address?

**Both a Solux 48 and a "full spectrum" tube from home depot may have a CRI of 97. I can assure you the Home Depot bulb has a giant mercury spike and some spectral dead spots.
A better metric is called CQS (15 very colorful patches). That doesn't tell us about the spectrum which is even a better way to evaluate the illuminant.

Yes, Andrew I know about the marketing rubbish; that's why I mentioned "comparable spectra".
So, assuming you are still using these bulbs, what are you going to replace them with and why?

[Rand47]

Yes, Andrew I know about the marketing rubbish; that's why I mentioned "comparable spectra".
So, assuming you are still using these bulbs, what are you going to replace them with and why?

Yup… agree.  We “need” you :-) to use your expertise to help us out with “at least” the least-worse alternative! 

Rand

[digitaldog]

Yes, Andrew I know about the marketing rubbish; that's why I mentioned "comparable spectra".

Along with asking about a pointless marketing spec called CRI.
Here's a suggestion in asking non pointless questions:
"Are there alternatives, like LEDs, with comparable spectra, CRI, etc, perferable 12V MR-16"?
That is an intelligent question after editing.

So, assuming you are still using these bulbs, what are you going to replace them with and why?

You don't have to assume. But you will.
I'm still using them. And I'm also using the LED's recommended before you got here. They arrived two days ago.

[digitaldog]

3. CRI is mostly marketing rubbish**. You'd expect someone who wrote ("Spectral purity is represented by the CRI (color rendering index)**" and a graph supporting the footnote below would understand this.

Both a Solux 48 and a "full spectrum" tube from home depot may have a CRI of 97. I can assure you the Home Depot bulb has a giant mercury spike and some spectral dead spots.
A better metric is called CQS (15 very colorful patches). That doesn't tell us about the spectrum which is even a better way to evaluate the illuminant.

Yes, Andrew I know about the marketing rubbish; that's why I mentioned "comparable spectra".

**Apparently you found this out long after writing this:

[Frans Waterlander]

""Are there alternatives, like LEDs, with comparable spectra, CRI, etc, perferable 12V MR-16"? That is an intelligent question."
And your answer is?

"I'm still using them. And I'm also using the LED's recommended."
So, what product specifically did you select, and why? And have you had and opportunity to try them out/test them?

[digitaldog]

And your answer is? So, what product specifically did you select, and why? And have you had and opportunity to try them out/test them?

When I have colorimetric data, I may post it here, but the bottom line when your questions are answered almost always end up with this summary:

A couple of answers that may or may not be accepted (you never know with some folks posting here.... )

You of course could attempt to find your own solutions, maybe actually measure the illuminant and report. Or assume. 

[Frans Waterlander]

When I have colorimetric data, I may post it here, but the bottom line when your questions are answered almost always end up with this summary:You of course could attempt to find your own solutions, maybe actually measure the illuminant and report. Or assume. 

The usual pi$$ and vinegar, but no willingness to help me and other former SoLux users out. Oh well, what did I expect?

[digitaldog]

The usual pi$$ and vinegar, but no willingness to help me and other former SoLux users out. Oh well, what did I expect?

You cannot be helped. Your long posting history here and in PhotoNet (and all written in stone and still viewable to everyone) is well established.
Other Solux users, that's different and hence the original post here, long before you arrived and once again polluted the conversation. 
“If my answers frighten you then you should cease asking scary questions.” - Quentin Tarantino, Pulp Fiction

Guess what? This is my last response to any of your BS. If you want to have an honest discussion, I will reply, but I'm not holding my breath.

[Rand47]

Yup… agree.  We “need” you :-) to use your expertise to help us out with “at least” the least-worse alternative! 

Rand

I'm quoting myself here.  It appears I've wandered into some kind of urinating contest.  Sorry about that. 

Andrew,

What do you think of the specs for this bulb?  I have the track lighting system that I purchased from the Solux folk and will need M11 replacements.  This bulb was recommended by a friend who has a studio / gallery.  I'm not tech savvy enough to make much of the spec sheet linked below:

https://www.soraa.com/assets/cloud/product_specs/soraa-vivid-mr16-gu5-3/SS_SM16_7.5W_VIVID_NA.pdf

Urinating contests aside, I'd really love to have your expertise applied to my search for an M11 type bulb that could be used in my existing track fixtures.  I tried to stock up on the Solux, but they are completely out of the M11 w/ the black painted backs that I need for the track light fixtures.

Rand

[digitaldog]

My experience with one Soraa:
https://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=131594.msg1123478#msg1123478

[Rand47]

My experience with one Soraa:
https://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=131594.msg1123478#msg1123478

Thanks, Andrew!

Rand