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need help; Z3200 on mac - fails to print a 1m x 1,5m 600dpi image
« on: September 30, 2022, 05:59:27 am »

hello, i just made a test print of about 1 m, because the size of the document i wanted to print was apparently too large.

Size 1,5m long 1.11m wide and 600 dpi adobe rgb 8bit.

i print from Photoshop- Mojave;  Will Monterey make a difference?

I got a warning sending of the psb file that there might be a problem for it was larger than 2GB. So i was warned.

Printing stopped after about  1m ; crash report said:  QuickLookSatellite stopped unexpected.

does anybody recognize this problem and has a fix for printing larger?

Would like to know.

thanks!  Pieter
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Re: need help; Z3200 on mac - fails to print a 1m x 1,5m 600dpi image
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2022, 09:03:55 am »

Yes, drop the dpi to 300. No need for 600.

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Re: need help; Z3200 on mac - fails to print a 1m x 1,5m 600dpi image
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2022, 10:09:03 am »

Yes, drop the dpi to 300. No need for 600.

I agree. With such a large image the changes between pixels are small enough that there is no advantage to using higher resolution. This is different when printing smaller, overall images where it is possible to get large enough changes that aliasing is visible.
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Re: need help; Z3200 on mac - fails to print a 1m x 1,5m 600dpi image
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2022, 06:46:42 am »

It is not for me but for a demanding artist ;)

Anyway I found out what the bottleneck is: Adobe.
Adobe programs seem to have a limit of about 32.000px length : i am trying to find out the real border: it is about 28.500px...

I agree: good enough for a solid print; but remarkable that there is such a bottleneck.
Need to buy a RIP to solve the situation in a perfect way...
But no, I am going down to less dpi!

greetings! PK
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Re: need help; Z3200 on mac - fails to print a 1m x 1,5m 600dpi image
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2022, 05:21:24 pm »

Get inexpensive QImage and never worry about that again. It is now for Mac and pc -

https://www.ddisoftware.com/qimage-u/

Great sharpening and upsizing algorithms also.

John




It is not for me but for a demanding artist ;)

Anyway I found out what the bottleneck is: Adobe.
Adobe programs seem to have a limit of about 32.000px length : i am trying to find out the real border: it is about 28.500px...

I agree: good enough for a solid print; but remarkable that there is such a bottleneck.
Need to buy a RIP to solve the situation in a perfect way...
But no, I am going down to less dpi!

greetings! PK
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Re: need help; Z3200 on mac - fails to print a 1m x 1,5m 600dpi image
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2022, 02:47:20 am »

Get inexpensive QImage and never worry about that again. It is now for Mac and pc -

https://www.ddisoftware.com/qimage-u/

Great sharpening and upsizing algorithms also.

John

Thanks John, maybe that is just what i need- I will give it a try.
I always thought rips were too costly... fit for real print offices..

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Re: need help; Z3200 on mac - fails to print a 1m x 1,5m 600dpi image
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2022, 03:47:44 pm »


It’s not really a rip, it’s more of a secondary print module ( and a lot cheaper one than Image Print ) . You can’t use it to linearize media but it functions really well as a adaptable print driver .


Thanks John, maybe that is just what i need- I will give it a try.
I always thought rips were too costly... fit for real print offices..
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Re: need help; Z3200 on mac - fails to print a 1m x 1,5m 600dpi image
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2022, 08:56:59 am »

Get inexpensive QImage and never worry about that again. It is now for Mac and pc -

https://www.ddisoftware.com/qimage-u/

Great sharpening and upsizing algorithms also.

John
alas,
the QImage1 from Binartem crashes on the same 30.000px limit... too bad, thanks for the suggestion.
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Re: need help; Z3200 on mac - fails to print a 1m x 1,5m 600dpi image
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2022, 03:09:19 am »

alas,
the QImage1 from Binartem crashes on the same 30.000px limit... too bad, thanks for the suggestion.

I am not familiar with the Qimage One features but in Qimage Ultimate (Windows only) there is a Poster function, as described in the manual Example 6, that deals with length/data limits in printer drivers.  While QU certainly does not reduce the data size it sends to the printer driver it can chop that stream in digestable parts and they will fit seamless in print. Wonder how Qimage One could be used in the same way.

Ernst, op de lei getypt.
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Re: need help; Z3200 on mac - fails to print a 1m x 1,5m 600dpi image
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2022, 04:07:59 am »

I am not familiar with the Qimage One features but in Qimage Ultimate (Windows only) there is a Poster function, as described in the manual Example 6, that deals with length/data limits in printer drivers.  While QU certainly does not reduce the data size it sends to the printer driver it can chop that stream in digestable parts and they will fit seamless in print. Wonder how Qimage One could be used in the same way.

Ernst, op de lei getypt.
As Andrew of binartem told me , it uses the hp driver and has therefore the same limits.
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Re: need help; Z3200 on mac - fails to print a 1m x 1,5m 600dpi image
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2022, 07:51:36 am »

As Andrew of binartem told me , it uses the hp driver and has therefore the same limits.

Qimage Ultimate uses the Windows HP drivers as well but it still can do that trick to print beyond the length limitations. Done 5 meter prints that way.
BTW, on my older Z3100  (non postscript) adding the HPGL driver extension increased the print length above the 240?cm of the normal PCL driver.
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