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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #2720 on: December 29, 2021, 10:23:20 pm »

The Tuesday numbers got even worse at the end of the day - almost 313,000 new cases and over 1,800 deaths in USA. Canada reached also record numbers (over 27,000 new infections today), and it is very likely that those numbers in the next days due to Christmas travel will climb even higher.

Another record today, and not only by a few percent. 465,670 new cases in USA and 32,124 in Canada. I'm staying in.
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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #2721 on: December 30, 2021, 11:14:55 am »

Well, the media keeps telling us how hospital beds are all loaded up due to Omicron. 

Today at 4:23 a.m. EST|Updated today at 10:15 a.m. EST: Media: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/12/30/covid-omicron-variant-live-updates/
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Coronavirus cases are soaring across the United States as the more transmissible omicron variant spreads, but hospitalizations remain “comparatively low,” Rochelle Walensky, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told reporters Wednesday.

The number of daily pediatric covid hospital admissions in the United States surpassed 1,200 on Wednesday, according to Washington Post data, approaching highs last seen in the summer. However, doctors have said that despite seeing record positive results from children’s coronavirus tests, the vast majority of cases so far have been mild.
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« Reply #2722 on: December 30, 2021, 12:53:28 pm »

Today at 4:23 a.m. EST|Updated today at 10:15 a.m. EST: Media: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/12/30/covid-omicron-variant-live-updates/

Some welcome good news. I'm surprised the awful media didn't try to cover it up.  ;)
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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #2723 on: December 30, 2021, 12:57:32 pm »

Some welcome good news. I'm surprised the awful media didn't try to cover it up.  ;)
You'll likely be told by one fellow, again, it's a cover up or worse nonsense.
Wait for it....wait for it....🥵

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« Reply #2724 on: December 30, 2021, 08:46:34 pm »

Wow! 562,000 new infections today. And that doesn't include 5 states, and also not the positives amongst untested. The real number could be conceivably 1 million.
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« Reply #2725 on: December 30, 2021, 08:54:36 pm »

Wow! 562,000 new infections today. And that doesn't include 5 states, and also not the positives amongst untested. The real number could be conceivably 1 million.

So now that Covid is on the way out, we're left with the economic damage.

How many positive tests from self testing kits not included in those numbers?
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« Reply #2726 on: December 30, 2021, 10:48:28 pm »

Wow! 562,000 new infections today. And that doesn't include 5 states, and also not the positives amongst untested. The real number could be conceivably 1 million.
Omicron seems to be pushing out the more dangerous Delta.  My own state of New Jersey is one of the 16 worst states. It seems like it will leave as quickly as it hit.   News from South Africa seem to support this outcome.  Let's hope this is the last hurrah from Covid.

Covid Live Updates: South Africa Says Its Omicron Wave Has Passed With No Big Spike in Deaths
The announcement offers cautious hope to other countries grappling with the fast-spreading variant. The U.S. hits yet another record for new daily virus cases.
The South African government said Thursday that data from its health department suggested that the country had passed its Omicron peak without a major spike in deaths, offering cautious hope to other countries grappling with the variant.

“The speed with which the Omicron-driven fourth wave rose, peaked and then declined has been staggering,” said Fareed Abdullah of the South African Medical Research Council. “Peak in four weeks and precipitous decline in another two. This Omicron wave is over in the city of Tshwane. It was a flash flood more than a wave.” The rise in deaths over the period was small, and in the last week, officials said, “marginal.”

Some scientists were quick to forecast the same pattern elsewhere.

“We’ll be in for a tough January, as cases will keep going up and peak, and then fall fast,” said Ali Mokdad, a University of Washington epidemiologist who is a former Centers for Disease Control and Prevention scientist. While cases will still overwhelm hospitals, he said, he expects that the proportion of hospitalized cases will be lower than in earlier waves.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/12/30/world/omicron-covid-vaccine-tests#south-africa-omicron-decline

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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #2727 on: December 30, 2021, 10:56:17 pm »

Omicron seems to be pushing out the more dangerous Delta.  My own state of New Jersey is one of the 16 worst states. It seems like it will leave as quickly as it hit.   News from South Africa seem to support this outcome.  Let's hope this is the last hurrah from Covid.
Your new prediction is as absurd and created without a lick of expertise as the last one before it and as equally untrue as how you tell us you form them:
So now that Covid is on the way out, we're left with the economic damage.
Sorry.  I'm following the science, not like you who's following a real estate and stock investor for advice on Covid.
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« Reply #2728 on: December 31, 2021, 01:40:46 am »

Mayor of Brampton, a medium-sized town northwest of Toronto, just sent out a Happy New Year tweet about Omicron. No wonder people are confused, not knowing whom to trust.

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Brampton Mayor Patrick Brown has pointed out that the ICU capacity in Brampton remains strong, and noted that the focus simply on case counts doesn’t make sense.
Additionally, Brown talked about how many are being listed as ‘admitted with covid’ while actually having come to the hospital for other reasons:


“We need to focus on the severity of Omicron cases and not just case counts. The hospital capacity at Brampton Civic is strong. We are down to only 2 in ICU and only 20 in the hospital with COVID19. There is reason for cautious optimism and hopefully better days ahead in 2022!”

https://twitter.com/patrickbrownont/status/1476212340022464521

“Further, it needs to be noted that over the past week, more than 50% of #COVID19 positive patients at @OslerHealth were admitted due to the virus or respiratory illness, while the remainder came to the hospital for other reasons but were also admitted with COVID-19. Brampton Mayor Patrick Brown is now looking to draw attention to this under-reported issue, which is only getting bigger. “I’ve been told it’s about 50% of cases,” Brown said in a phone interview with the Sun, referring specifically to Brampton hospitals.This means the actual number of people in hospital with COVID-19 throughout Ontario may be half of what the official numbers indicate.“It speaks to the fact that the hospitalization numbers are better than we think they are,”

Brown said, echoing comments he made at a televised press conference Tuesday morning.“If you’re looking at case counts higher than we’ve ever seen before but hospitalizations that haven’t really budged, that’s a really powerful insight into what we’re dealing with.”Brown said in Brampton, the hospital and ICU numbers are actually slightly declining. “That’s a very encouraging trend,” Brown said. “You turn on the news and see doom and gloom, and that’s not what I’m seeing.”

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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #2729 on: December 31, 2021, 06:15:52 am »

Mayor of Brampton, a medium-sized town northwest of Toronto, just sent out a Happy New Year tweet about Omicron. No wonder people are confused, not knowing whom to trust.

Bad news sells.  Instead of making a calm and reasoned analysis of the data like your Major apparently did, the media, politicians, and many scientists just paint the worse picture possible to force people to do things rather than allow them to use their own judgment. 

I watched the Mayor-Elect of NYC Adams yesterday, a retired NYPD Captain, who starts Jan 1st, respond to what he intends to do about Covid. He says we shouldn't shut down the annual New Years' Eve Times Square festivities.  Will he take responsibility if outbreaks occur because of it?  He said yes, emphatically. He's not only taking responsibility but he's going to lead New Yorkers out of this malaise and move ahead in a positive way.  He's a Democrat who I wouldn't vote for. But I'm pleasantly surprised by the leadership of this guy.  I think we really have someone who's tough and takes charge.  He takes responsibility.  He doesn't look to hide from challenges.  He's the kind of leader this country needs more of.  I've heard this guy talk a couple of times.  If his action matches his inspiring words, and he cleans up crime and New York's economic problems during these hard Covid times, this guy will be running for President in 2024. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li5pDthsWMM

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« Reply #2730 on: December 31, 2021, 06:29:21 am »

Just a clarification.  I wouldn't vote for him as mayor since I'm no longer a New Yorker, and can't do it.  But, if he does a good job, sweeps away the effects of Covid, and turns around NYC economically, I can see myself voting for this guy in 2024 for president.  I could see this guy easily beating an incompetent Biden in the Democratic primary.

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« Reply #2731 on: December 31, 2021, 10:47:53 am »

Omicron seems to be pushing out the more dangerous Delta.  ...

Please stop, you're hurting my brain. ;)
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« Reply #2732 on: December 31, 2021, 10:49:43 am »

Omicron seems to be pushing out the more dangerous Delta. . . . It seems like it will leave as quickly as it hit.

You forgot to mention that Trump deserves credit for predicting, waaay back in September, 2020, that "herd mentality" would make the coronavirus disappear.

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« Reply #2733 on: December 31, 2021, 11:58:55 am »

I could see this guy easily beating an incompetent Biden in the Democratic primary.
You are a poor judge of competence.
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« Reply #2734 on: December 31, 2021, 12:18:36 pm »

Bad news sells.
Another example of a fellow who never let's facts and his ignorant generalizations get in the way of posting strong opinions:
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A pandemic-scarred year ends in darkness -- but with hope on the horizon
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« Reply #2735 on: December 31, 2021, 01:57:29 pm »

Infectious diseases don't spread uniformly. Spikes, surges, and waves of infection vary in time, place, and severity.

These are the six states in the U.S. where current hospital ICU occupancy is highest...

• Kentucky ICU Beds in Use - 91.59%
• Kentucky ICU Beds in Use for COVID-19 - 25.02%

• New Mexico ICU Beds in Use - 91.52%
• New Mexico ICU Beds in Use for COVID-19 - 40.61%

• Indiana ICU Beds in Use - 88.96%
• Indiana Beds in Use for COVID-19 - 37.78%

• Texas ICU Beds in Use - 88.12%
• Texas ICU Beds in Use for COVID-19 - 20.66%

• Missouri ICU Beds in Use - 87.88%
• Missouri ICU Beds in Use for COVID-19 - 34.82%

• New Hampshire ICU Beds in Use - 87.08%
• New Hampshire ICU Beds in Use for COVID-19 - 37.92%
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« Reply #2736 on: December 31, 2021, 01:59:41 pm »

Just a clarification.  I wouldn't vote for him...

Who cares? This isn't the political thread.
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« Reply #2737 on: December 31, 2021, 03:06:50 pm »

Bad news sells.

Monotonous repetition doesn't, it simply bores people to death.
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« Reply #2738 on: December 31, 2021, 03:17:00 pm »

Data from South Africa is showing that it is spreading faster amongst the vaccinated than the un-vaxxed.

It appears that this data was compiled in the same anatomical location as the other misinformation being spread.

Turns out, looks like natural immunity is better...

This BS has also previously been addressed the first time it was posted.
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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #2739 on: December 31, 2021, 03:40:16 pm »

U.S. COVID-19 Patients in Hospital

• November 1, 2021 - 42,623 *

• November 14, 2021 - 41,871

• November 28, 2021 - 50,451

• December 1, 2021 - 53,310

• December 14, 2021 - 63,244

• December 28, 2021 - 79,261 *

• December 31, 2021 - 90,418 *

* Updated with revisions from previously unreported data

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/current-covid-patients-hospital-country=USA
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