Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine

[Chris Kern]

A recent research report published in the New England Journal of Medicine indicates that one of the mRNA vaccines (Moderna mRNA-1273) produces an effective antibody response for at least six months after the second dose is administered.

. . . antibodies that were elicited by mRNA-1273 persisted through 6 months after the second dose, as detected by three distinct serologic assays. Ongoing studies are monitoring immune responses beyond 6 months as well as determining the effect of a booster dose to extend the duration and breadth of activity against emerging viral variants. Our data show antibody persistence and thus support the use of this vaccine in addressing the Covid-19 pandemic.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

Hold on. "Fascist" is you guys.  Keep it straight.

Hardly.

It is government (big, mighty - your preference) + corporatism (which is supposedly big capital - which would be us - but you succeeded in placing woke CEOs there, or creating enough grassroot pressure of your woke legions) = fascism.  Not to mention that Nazi comes from "Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei"

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

A recent research report published in the New England Journal of Medicine indicates that one of the mRNA vaccines (Moderna mRNA-1273) produces an effective antibody response for at least six months after the second dose is administered.

Isn't that old news?

[James Clark]

Hardly.

It is government (big, mighty - your preference) + corporatism (which is supposedly big capital - which would be us - but you succeeded in placing woke CEOs there, or creating enough grassroot pressure of your woke legions) = fascism.  Not to mention that Nazi comes from "Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei"

If we get to claim corporatism too, what's that leave you guys with?  The rabble of Populism? Unhinged Nationalism? That seems like a crap consolation prize to me.

Also, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea sends their appreciation for your strict interpretation of naming conventions and suggests you consult with Dennis Rodman on future endeavors.

[faberryman]

Isn't that old news?

It is probably old news. Scientists are figuring out that some people don't want to hear the results of new research, so they just go with the old stuff. That way they don't lose the public's confidence and trust.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

It is probably old news....

There you go again.

Hasn't the "at least six months" already been in the news for at least several weeks? That was my question.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

If we get to claim corporatism too, what's that leave you guys with?  The rabble of Populism? Unhinged Nationalism? That seems like a crap consolation prize to me....

Touché.

[faberryman]

It is government (big, mighty - your preference) + corporatism (which is supposedly big capital - which would be us - but you succeeded in placing woke CEOs there, or creating enough grassroot pressure of your woke legions) = fascism.  Not to mention that Nazi comes from "Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei"

Strawberries and cream = banana cream pie, since they both contain fruit and cream, not to mention that they both have the word "cream" in their name.

[Chris Kern]

Isn't that old news?

Six days old, at the time I am writing this.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

Six days old, at the time I am writing this.

No, but seriously, Chris, hasn't that being in the news for at least several weeks now? Or was it only for Pfizer? Both are mRNA type, so I would expect they would behave similarly.

[Chris Kern]

. . . hasn't that being in the news for at least several weeks now? Or was it only for Pfizer?

There was a Pfizer/BioNTech press release about a week earlier that reported durable immunity of their mRNA vaccine for six months, but as far as I know the data it was based on have not been published yet.

[faberryman]

No, but seriously, Chris, hasn't that being in the news for at least several weeks now? Or was it only for Pfizer? Both are mRNA type, so I would expect they would behave similarly.

I don't know whether it is old news or new news. I also don't know whether the research was done by woke scientists, so I don't know whether to believe it or not. Any idea who their masters are?

[Alan Klein]

Wouldn't we have to wait for six months at least to see if they're still effective and to what degree? Has it been that long?  Have any of them shown effectiveness against the variants?

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

I don't know whether it is old news or new news. I also don't know whether the research was done by woke scientists, so I don't know whether to believe it or not. Any idea who their masters are?

What are you now, Alan Klein for the woke side? 😉

[Alan Klein]

I don't know whether it is old news or new news. I also don't know whether the research was done by woke scientists, so I don't know whether to believe it or not. Any idea who their masters are?

The problem with science changing and researchers' "flip-flopping" is not something the public doesn't appreciate under normal circumstances.  They can understand the knowledge of science changes.   The issue is that politicians have deliberately selected certain scientific claims of the moment to push a particular social policy.  On both sides.  So the average schnook, caught between a rock and a hard spot, who isn't stupid, sees through the hustle and ignores what might otherwise be good advice.

[Alan Klein]

Are Canadians being forced to get shots?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Zz2eZWyQsD4K/

[faberryman]

The problem with science changing and researchers' "flip-flopping" is not something the public doesn't appreciate under normal circumstances.  They can understand the knowledge of science changes.   The issue is that politicians have deliberately selected certain scientific claims of the moment to push a particular social policy.  On both sides.  So the average schnook, caught between a rock and a hard spot, who isn't stupid, sees through the hustle and ignores what might otherwise be good advice.

So is this new research, which might or might not be new, since Slobodan thinks it may be old, but didn't check before he just threw the possibility out there, an example  where "politicians have deliberately selected certain scientific claims of the moment to push a particular social policy"?

Are you an "average schnook"?

Have you seen through the "hustle"?

How are you going to change your life, if at all, based on this new news that might or might not be new?

[faberryman]

What are you now, Alan Klein for the woke side? 😉

Nope. You convinced me that the masters of the woke scientists were just releasing fake research, so those are questions which naturally arose about this new news which might be old.

[James Clark]

So is this new research, which not or might not actually be new, since Slobodan thinks it may be old, but didn't check before he just threw the possibility out there, an example  where "politicians have deliberately selected certain scientific claims of the moment to push a particular social policy"?

Are you an "average schnook"?

Have you seen through the "hustle"?

How are you going to change your life, if at all, based on this new news that might or might not be new?

In Slobodon's defense, I think the general assumption for awhile has been at least a 3-6 month minimum efficacy on the mRNA vaccines, and I certainly remember seeing reporting to that effect.  When Chris posted this, I sort of figured that it was more data and/or a new specific study confirming what was already thought/known.

[faberryman]

In Slobodon's defense, I think the general assumption for awhile has been at least a 3-6 month minimum efficacy on the mRNA vaccines, and I certainly remember seeing reporting to that effect.  When Chris posted this, I sort of figured that it was more data and/or a new specific study confirming what was already thought/known.

I have read all kinds of stuff. This new news which might be old news is just a piece of an ever evolving puzzle. I would not in the least bit be surprised if this is updated over time as new data is acquired. Certainly if scientists later say the effectiveness period is four months or eight years or whatever, I am not going to throw my hands up in the air and lose confidence or trust in science. If and when scientists determine I need another vaccination or booster or whatever, I'll get it. I also put the recommended air pressure in my tires. Maybe that is a conspiracy by the tire manufacturers (or their masters) to make your tires wear out sooner so they can sell more tires.