Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa

[TechTalk]

Ultimately, whether he recanted or recanted his earlier recanting or never recanted at all doesn't matter. A review—conducted by a local newspaper, the Erie County Board of Elections Chairman Carl Anderson, and others—of the 129 mail-in ballot envelopes that were postmarked Nov. 3rd but received at the Erie County Board of Elections after Election Day shows that a grand total of two ballots came thru the Erie postal facility. Two ballots.

https://www.goerie.com/story/2020/11/10/only-2-late-ballots-postmarked-nov-3-came-erie-postal-facility

So I guess they were able to change the postmark on the other 127 ballots. Pretty successful conspiracy I’d say.

So just a little fraud is ok.  It won’t effect the outcome.  Makes perfect sense. 

The guy is now on indefinite suspension without pay for doing what he thought was  the right thing.  I would be surprised if he gets his job back.  A two tour Ex Marine gets his suspension letter on Vets day.  How fitting.

What fraud?

So there’s no fraud? 

No indication of any fraud in the two ballots from Erie postal facility.

[faberryman]

So there’s no fraud?   Just asking?

Is dead people voting fraud?  Just an example mind you.

Is there massive dead people voter fraud?

[Craig Lamson]

No indication of any fraud in the two ballots from Erie postal facility.

Lol, really that’s the best you have?  Please keep it up, it’s comedy gold!

[Craig Lamson]

Is there massive dead people voter fraud?

So we agree there’s  just a little fraud then?  It’s a start.

[TechTalk]

Lol, really that’s the best you have?  Please keep it up, it’s comedy gold!

The Erie ballots were the topic of discussion to which you replied "So just a little fraud is ok". There is no indication of fraud in those ballots.

You seem to amuse yourself with ease. A good thing I suppose.

[faberryman]

So we agree there’s  just a little fraud then?  It’s a start.

It doesn't surprise me that there are isolated incidents of voter fraud. Trump has every right to pursue each and every lead. I wake up every morning and type in "trump election litigation" just to try to keep up.

[Craig Lamson]

The Erie ballots were the topic of discussion to which you replied "So just a little fraud is ok". There is no indication of fraud in those ballots.

You seem to amuse yourself with ease. A good thing I suppose.

No, actually we had moved on to dead people voting. Frank had no problem following along.  But it’s good to see that staying up to speed is not your strong suit. 

[digitaldog]

Is there massive dead people voter fraud?

Tens upon tens of thousands that would change the outcome? Nope.
Is there ANY voter fraud? A tiny fraction maybe, none yet I've heard of and utterly inconsequential to the results. Biden is also now 5.5 million votes ahead of Trump.
This silly idea that there can't be a single example of voter fraud, let alone hundreds (or thousands), therefore Biden isn't the winner is as stupid a concept that masks ”dont do anything” because they are not 100% effective 100% of the time. That is the mindset of stupidity.

[Craig Lamson]

Tens upon tens of thousands that would change the outcome? Nope.
Is there ANY voter fraud? A tiny fraction maybe, none yet I've heard of and utterly inconsequential to the results. Biden is also now 5.5 million votes ahead of Trump.
This silly idea that there can't be a single example of voter fraud, let alone hundreds (or thousands), therefore Biden isn't the winner is as stupid a concept that masks ”dont do anything” because they are not 100% effective 100% of the time. That is the mindset of stupidity.

Wait there dog.  You forgot to tell us how we were going to deal with the pandemic!   Are you going to do that?

[JoeKitchen]

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30352-0/fulltext

Wow, "Systematic reviews of facemask use suggest relative risk (RR) reductions for infection ranging from 6–80%,"

6% to 80% is quite range, so in other words, no one really knows what they are talking about.  I'm surprised it's not 0% to 100%, which would make the research infallible. 

[faberryman]

No, actually we had moved on to dead people voting. Frank had no problem following along.  But it’s good to see that staying up to speed is not your strong suit.

It's not like I didn't notice that you were changing the subject from those two Erie, PA ballots to dead people. It's a fairly common tactic.

[digitaldog]

Profile in courage.... Not!
Republican National Committee chairwoman Ronna McDaniel on Wednesday deleted a tweet that implicitly admitted that President Donald Trump has lost the 2020 election.

[JoeKitchen]

This idea, that there is no data to show masks "do something" is idiotic. Masks have been worn in hospitals and elsewhere for well over 100 years, of course they do something useful as protection to others. Only those deep inside the unreality bubble of alternative facts would suggest they don't do anything and make them political. They might as well ask for 'facts' that the Earth is round and the sun revolves around it, that gravity exists. When provided actual facts and data, overwhelming accepted by many experts (and they are not), they will push back and deny these facts. The same folks, reading the National Enquirer or some bogus web site, believe father Cruz aided in the JFK assassination, Clinton is a pedophile and Democrats eat babies.

Masks are worn by doctors because if they are examining someone and they couch or sneeze on them while they are standing over them, they do not breath it directly in.  This is very different then how we are using them today. 

Furthermore, doctors wear masks properly sized for their face which are fresh and new.  Rewearing masks that have not been washed that do not properly fit you (the vast majority of people) does nothing.  This is the reason the WHO does not recommend face masks for the general public. 

[Craig Lamson]

It's not like I didn't notice that you were changing the subject.

Mr talk must have missed it.

[JoeKitchen]

I find this picture I took last week in Kamakura to be a good summary of how I feel about the Trump campaign...

- the spelling mistake
- the lock closing nothing but itself
- the fence symbolizing decay and fear

What do you guys think?

Cheers,
Bernard

Hmmm ... hmmmm

You do realize that lock is not there to actually lock the gate, but to hold a key presumably to use to open the actual lock on the gate?  Have you ever bought or sold a house, or maybe had a contractor work on a property you where not at and they needed to let themselves in?

I also fail to see how this fence symbolizes decay and fear.  I mean if there was a lot more rust, sure.  But that is nothing a little elbow grease, sandpaper and some touch up paint cant fix in a weekend. 

[digitaldog]

Trump wins Alaska? Gotta be fake news:
U.S. President Donald Trump's daughter and White House adviser, Ivanka Trump, celebrated the Associated Press' calling Alaska for her father in the 2020 election, after the president questioned why news media make such calls when the overall election wasn't going in his favor.
Back on planet Earth, anyone following facts knew Trump would win the state. Like we know he lost the race as president. He's still a loser in the race.
Oh, do look at the URL loser.com. 

[JoeKitchen]

Trump wins Alaska? Gotta be fake news:
U.S. President Donald Trump's daughter and White House adviser, Ivanka Trump, celebrated the Associated Press' calling Alaska for her father in the 2020 election, after the president questioned why news media make such calls when the overall election wasn't going in his favor.
Back on planet Earth, anyone following facts knew Trump would win the state. Like we know he lost the race as president. He's still a loser in the race.
Oh, do look at the URL loser.com. 

The more important news from the last frontier is we are now at 50-48 republican to democrat in the Senate.   

[digitaldog]

Profiles in utter stupidity:
Some people refuse to wear a mask even when mandated (it's a burden on my freedom, they don't do anything)
Some people don't wear them properly so they are less effective.
Some people drive and confuse the gas pedal for the break pedal.
Like I said, you can't fix stupidity or excuses for stupidity, yet the stupid still try to justify their stupidity.
Some stupidity about what the WHO does not recommends and what they actually DO recommend:
https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/when-and-how-to-use-masks
If COVID-19 is spreading in your community, stay safe by taking some simple precautions, such as physical distancing, wearing a mask, keeping rooms well ventilated, avoiding crowds, cleaning your hands, and coughing into a bent elbow or tissue. Check local advice where you live and work. Do it all!
Make wearing a mask a normal part of being around other people.

[TechTalk]

No, actually we had moved on to dead people voting. Frank had no problem following along. But it’s good to see that staying up to speed is not your strong suit.

Knowing that you've had problems with reading comprehension in the past is why I posted all of them in chronological order above. I'll do it again for you.

Ultimately, whether he recanted or recanted his earlier recanting or never recanted at all doesn't matter. A review—conducted by a local newspaper, the Erie County Board of Elections Chairman Carl Anderson, and others—of the 129 mail-in ballot envelopes that were postmarked Nov. 3rd but received at the Erie County Board of Elections after Election Day shows that a grand total of two ballots came thru the Erie postal facility. Two ballots.

https://www.goerie.com/story/2020/11/10/only-2-late-ballots-postmarked-nov-3-came-erie-postal-facility

So I guess they were able to change the postmark on the other 127 ballots. Pretty successful conspiracy I’d say.

So just a little fraud is ok.  It won’t effect the outcome.  Makes perfect sense. 

The guy is now on indefinite suspension without pay for doing what he thought was  the right thing.  I would be surprised if he gets his job back.  A two tour Ex Marine gets his suspension letter on Vets day.  How fitting.

As you can see above, we are still on the same topic of the two ballots in Erie when you reply "So just a little fraud is ok." No dead people and still on topic.

What fraud?

As you can see, my reply is still in regards to the Erie ballots and your reply of "So just a little fraud is ok."  No dead people have arisen yet.

So there’s no fraud?   Just asking?

Is dead people voting fraud?  Just an example mind you.

Now you seem to want to go off on a different tangent and discuss dead people. I'm not interested in getting on a rhetorical rollercoaster ride with you, so I stay on the topic that we've been discussing (in fact I deleted the change of subject from your reply and responded only to "So there’s no fraud?") and replied...

No indication of any fraud in the two ballots from Erie postal facility.

And for reasons known only to you, you find it amusing.

Lol, really that’s the best you have?  Please keep it up, it’s comedy gold!

And the reason that I stayed on topic, didn't take the bait of going off on your tangent, and choose not to go off on these merry-go-round and rollercoaster rhetorical trips that you seem to enjoy is illustrated in everything shown in the lengthy post above. It's exhausting.

Your diversions are just an excuse to spin in rhetorical circles and to fire off insults—again for reasons known only to you. It's wholly unproductive, leads nowhere and serves only your ego. So thanks for the opportunity to play your game and take your bait. But, been there and have zero interest in it.

Now... congratulate yourself and hurl all the petty insults you like.

[JoeKitchen]

Oh, well I guess that promise by Biden not to shut down the economy is already showing itself to be a lie. 

Biden COVID-19 adviser suggests potential lockdown lasting over a month