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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #2620 on: November 27, 2020, 12:26:24 pm »

The King on his throne: Mini desk. Tiny hands. Small soul’: Trump mocked for giving speech at little table

That is not a good look. I pretty sure whoever thought that was a good idea is looking for another job. And so close to the holidays.
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« Reply #2621 on: November 27, 2020, 12:26:44 pm »

Pope Francis takes aim at anti-mask protesters: ‘They are incapable of moving outside of their own little world’
Published: Nov. 27, 2020 at 12:06 p.m. ET
”They” sound like anyone who posts here? 🤔
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« Reply #2622 on: November 27, 2020, 12:29:07 pm »

That is not a good look.
He is compensating for....
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« Reply #2623 on: November 27, 2020, 12:31:05 pm »

This does not seem like a prudent thing to have done. Perhaps he should not have given all the money up front.

Donor sues pro-Trump group over failure to prove voter fraud: 'Empty promises'

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/527680-donor-sues-pro-trump-group-over-failure-to-prove-voter-fraud.
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« Reply #2624 on: November 27, 2020, 01:00:20 pm »

Pope Francis takes aim at anti-mask protesters: ‘They are incapable of moving outside of their own little world’
Published: Nov. 27, 2020 at 12:06 p.m. ET
”They” sound like anyone who posts here? 🤔

Your post put a thought in my mind and so I googled "Would Jesus wear a mask". I just wanted to thank you for causing me to spend too much time down a pointless rabbit hole. :)

Btw, the answer is that some people think yes and some people think no.
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« Reply #2625 on: November 27, 2020, 01:53:28 pm »



Maybe it's like that in politics. There is a pervasive belief that communism was a bad idea. This is certainly justified, the record ain't great, is it? But it must rankle that those remaining communist (in name at least) regimes haven't ground themselves into the dust by now. I mean, Cuba has a high level of literacy, their medical facilities and graduates seem to have a good reputation. People from there seem to feel national pride. These things must seem incongruous to some, how can they be possible? Since it's such an evil place, shouldn't everything be truly awful. Of course real life is never what propaganda says it is. People can't stand contradictions, especially religious or political ones, because unlike important things like food or health or shelter, religion and politics are mostly about ego. That is: I believe "A" therefore "B" must be bad BECAUSE I believe "A". But if "B" happens to do some things right, this froths people up something fierce.



Doesn't rankle me that the remaining communist regimes haven't ground themselves to dust, but then, you wouldn't expect them to. Neither would you expect the rising rightwing governments in Eastern Europe to do that either. Today, the technology of repression is so good (witness the terrible conditions in North Korea, where a good part of the population apparently starves every time there's a crop problem) that once a regime has a grip, there's no way out. In the more sophisticated regimes, as in Vietnam, there's a level of personal freedom as long as you don't do or say anything that the regime views as a threat. The sophisticated regimes have learned to accept levels of criticism that are insignificant, as a safety valve. But the grip never goes away.

As far as Cuban doctors are concerned, I've been told (and I think correctly) that most of them function on a level that's about equivalent to an American nurse practitioner, which for most medical problems, is good enough. There are several thousand Cuban doctors in Miami, and most work as nurses or medical techs because they can't pass American medical exams. The Cubans simply haven't been able to keep up with modern medical technology, and so (most) Cuban doctors don't know how to work with it.

There have been a number of comments during these threads that compare America unfavorably to Canada. Some of that doesn't seem to me to be especially controversial (given a choice, I think many Americans, probably a majority, including myself, would prefer a "Medicare for all" system, like Canada's) but none of us should make the mistake of thinking that Canada is basically the US with better medical care. The two countries are quite different, in my experience, and have very different political cultures. Canada actually remains quite close to the British system, and America, of course, threw the Brits out. I personally prefer the US flavor, even with all the problems we have.
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« Reply #2626 on: November 27, 2020, 01:58:10 pm »

I just wanted to thank you for causing me to spend too much time down a pointless rabbit hole. :)
That's what the LuLa Coffee Corner is for.  :D
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« Reply #2627 on: November 27, 2020, 02:14:03 pm »

The Third Circuit denied Team Trump's appeal from Judge Brann blistering decision last week. You may remember that the appeal was not on the merits of the case, but whether Judge Brann had erred in not allowing Giuliani to file a Second Amended Complaint which would have added back in claims from the original Complaint which were "erroneously" left out of the First Amended Complaint. The appeal court rather succinctly said "the claims have no merit." So Team Trump can appeal to the Supreme Court, but the Supreme Court doesn't have to accept the appeal. My guess is that it will not. Jenna Ellis will no doubt characterize this a a win for Team Trump as it gets them to the Supreme Court faster.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/27/trump-loses-appeal-of-pennsylvania-election-case.html
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« Reply #2628 on: November 27, 2020, 02:17:06 pm »

Watching a movie, "Mark Felt," about a Watergate investigation. Found something striking in it (bold mine):

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Watergate was the most intensive, objective, and thorough investigation in the history of the US Attorney's office and the FBI

Mind you, that statement was made within the first couple of days of the investigation that concluded no one from the White House was involved. What happened next is history.

All of a sudden, something else sounds interesting too.

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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #2629 on: November 27, 2020, 02:21:42 pm »

  • FDA intends to make vaccine authorization decision within a few weeks after Dec. 10 meeting

    Trump says coronavirus vaccine deliveries will start next week
(https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-says-coronavirus-vaccine-deliveries-will-start-next-week, Fox News, can't be fake).
Anyone want to place bets on which reality will actually happen and who's lying again?
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« Reply #2630 on: November 27, 2020, 02:34:38 pm »



As far as Cuban doctors are concerned, I've been told (and I think correctly) that most of them function on a level that's about equivalent to an American nurse practitioner, which for most medical problems, is good enough. There are several thousand Cuban doctors in Miami, and most work as nurses or medical techs because they can't pass American medical exams. The Cubans simply haven't been able to keep up with modern medical technology, and so (most) Cuban doctors don't know how to work with it.


And yet Cuban life expectancy is greater than the US. Also wonder which country spends more per capital on health care...now I wonder where all that money being spent winds up...whose pockets are getting loaded?
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« Reply #2631 on: November 27, 2020, 03:01:10 pm »

The Third Circuit denied Team Trump's appeal from Judge Brann blistering decision last week. You may remember that the appeal was not on the merits of the case, but whether Judge Brann had erred in not allowing Giuliani to file a Second Amended Complaint which would have added back in claims from the original Complaint which were "erroneously" left out of the First Amended Complaint. The appeal court rather succinctly said "the claims have no merit." So Team Trump can appeal to the Supreme Court, but the Supreme Court doesn't have to accept the appeal. My guess is that it will not. Jenna Ellis will no doubt characterize this a a win for Team Trump as it gets them to the Supreme Court faster.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/27/trump-loses-appeal-of-pennsylvania-election-case.html

You're right, just saw this on Reuters

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“Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here,” wrote Bibas, who was nominated by Trump.

“On to SCOTUS!” wrote Jenna Ellis, a Trump campaign attorney, on Twitter after the ruling, referring to a planned appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court. “The activist judicial machinery in Pennsylvania continues to cover up the allegations of massive fraud.”

I can't imagine SCOTUS reacting any different from the federal appeals court, but we'll see.
And what really surprised me is that the Trump campaign now accuses the "activist judicial machine" (three Republican nominated judges, of which one was nominated by Trump) is accused to cover up the alleged fraud. I can't believe that half or more of the republican voters (i.e. ~25 % of the US population) actually believes this BS. It gets more and more attributes of a cult where logic plays no role.
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« Reply #2632 on: November 27, 2020, 03:07:14 pm »


WASHINGTON — A federal appeals court on Friday handed another loss to the Trump campaign’s effort to undo President-elect Joe Biden’s win in Pennsylvania, with a judge — one of Trump’s nominees — writing that the campaign’s “claims have no merit.”
In a 3-0 decision, the US Court of Appeals for the 3rd Circuit rejected the campaign’s effort to get a do-over of its lawsuit challenging the election results in Pennsylvania, which a lower court had already tossed out last week.
“Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here,” Judge Stephanos Bibas wrote in a 3-0 decision from the US Court of Appeals for the 3rd Circuit.
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« Reply #2633 on: November 27, 2020, 03:13:19 pm »

President Donald Trump has a bone to pick with windmills — he says it’s because they kill a lot of birds. And they cause cancer.
This just in:
The Trump administration released an analysis on Friday finding that its proposed rule easing companies’ liability for killing birds would not cause any substantial environmental harm, the Washington Post first reported.
Details: The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service proposes in its analysis a new rule that will modify its interpretation of the 1918 Migratory Bird Treaty Act — which protects birds from industrial and other threats — so that only intentional killings result in fines.
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #2634 on: November 27, 2020, 04:11:49 pm »

As I was saying...

https://notthebee.com/article/a-few-days-ago-johns-hopkins-published-a-study-saying-corona-is-nbd-they-then-deleted-it-read-it-here-in-its-entirety

(Bold mine)

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These data analyses suggest that in contrast to most people's assumptions, the number of deaths by COVID-19 is not alarming. In fact, it has relatively no effect on deaths in the United States.

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« Reply #2635 on: November 27, 2020, 04:26:12 pm »

As I was saying...

https://notthebee.com/article/a-few-days-ago-johns-hopkins-published-a-study-saying-corona-is-nbd-they-then-deleted-it-read-it-here-in-its-entirety

(Bold mine)
Making it bold does not make less rubbish.
Facts:
COVID-19 Is Now the Third Leading Cause of Death in the U.S.
It kills more people than the flu, contrary to Trump’s claims, and also surpasses stroke, Alzheimer’s and diabetes.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/covid-19-is-now-the-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-the-u-s1/

In a few weeks, might be #2!
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« Reply #2636 on: November 27, 2020, 04:30:38 pm »

You just can’t help yourself, can you? Again with the White House china.
Well, Trump may be cheap.  But the Clintons are tacky.  :)

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« Reply #2637 on: November 27, 2020, 04:34:40 pm »

As I was saying...

https://notthebee.com/article/a-few-days-ago-johns-hopkins-published-a-study-saying-corona-is-nbd-they-then-deleted-it-read-it-here-in-its-entirety
Great site bud:
Not the Bee is a humor-based news, opinion, and entertainment site from the creators of The Babylon Bee and Disrn. Like the name suggests, it'll feature some absurd and hilarious (but real) news that seems like it should definitely be satire.
Mine: Scientific America. No satire, science.
Guess that's where we differ.
What's next Slobodan, posts from The National Enquirer or Amazing Stories?
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« Reply #2638 on: November 27, 2020, 04:43:11 pm »

Well, Trump may be cheap.  But the Clintons are tacky.  :)

Again. You just can’t help yourself, can you?
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« Reply #2639 on: November 27, 2020, 04:45:58 pm »

Again. You just can’t help yourself, can you?
EVERYONE (😜) but Alan knows the answer; no.
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