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« Reply #17660 on: January 10, 2026, 04:53:52 pm »

My worry is that the (supposedly?) most powerful country in the world is turning its war sights at its own best friend: Europe.

What a perfect storm that would be for Russia and China: Europe would be tearing itself apart, not knowing if to use its armour against insane US aggression aimed at its Atlantic possessions, whilst the removal of the threat of US intervention would embolden Russia to overrun a confused Europe.

Meanwhile, China would not be slow in seizing the opportunity to mop up the scattered countries that form the western Pacific rim. 

And all because of one man’s crazed dreams of becoming emperor of the world. I wonder if one of his wife’s obligatory röles is to be food-taster?

Perhaps a world split into two blocks will be the final solution: without a third power structure left in the game, the fear/danger of two ganging up against one is removed.

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« Reply #17661 on: January 10, 2026, 05:03:55 pm »

Thanks for the belly laugh!

Just between us, do you think they were eating dogs in Minnesota?

+1. Without absurdity, massive misunderstandings, and bewilderment, we would have no one to laugh at. The Rodney Dangerfield of LuLa (he gets no respect but lots of laughs). 🤣
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« Reply #17662 on: January 10, 2026, 08:30:32 pm »

dogs on the Barby....
Cats in the smoker...
what else ?
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« Reply #17663 on: January 10, 2026, 10:27:01 pm »

My worry is that the (supposedly?) most powerful country in the world is turning its war sights at its own best friend: Europe.

What a perfect storm that would be for Russia and China: Europe would be tearing itself apart, not knowing if to use its armour against insane US aggression aimed at its Atlantic possessions, whilst the removal of the threat of US intervention would embolden Russia to overrun a confused Europe.

Meanwhile, China would not be slow in seizing the opportunity to mop up the scattered countries that form the western Pacific rim. 

And all because of one man’s crazed dreams of becoming emperor of the world. I wonder if one of his wife’s obligatory röles is to be food-taster?

Perhaps a world split into two blocks will be the final solution: without a third power structure left in the game, the fear/danger of two ganging up against one is removed.

It's not the 19th century anymore. Easy to start wars maybe, not so easy to end them, let alone win any. Nobody's recent track record is very good on that. Can there be many people who'd take a bullet for Trump's  oil fantasies?

Is there any real evidence that Russia is a world power? We should stop pretending they are.

People talk about China as if they're the enemy, but they never threatened Canada or Greenland, did they? Is that propaganda at work, do you think. China has been justifiably criticized for human rights abuses but it's going to be difficult for the US to credibly make that accusation from now on. Without people laughing, I mean.

The oil barons that funded Trump found themselves in an unusual situation with Trump seemingly asking them to go to Venezuela, as if their assets are at his disposal. I guess he thought they'd be loyal. Maybe he'll use the tariff revenues to subsidize them into going to Venezuela. Now there's a good use of public money. I've kind of lost count of all the things that the tariffs will pay for. It's a bit like the loaves and the fishes.

It occurred to me today that Trump did the destruction on the White House that the 4th plane on 9/11 failed to do.

I heard yesterday (or maybe today) that Trump wants to drop bombs on cartel territory in Mexico. Is there a reliable map of cartel territory? You can build a meth lab in a RV's toilet. Can it really be worth dropping expensive bombs on worthless isolated makeshift labs. I occasionally read reports on how the banking system makes a good buck from laundering criminal money, probably done with crypto now. They never go after that money, do they. They just kill a few grunts in boats. Do people think that accomplishes anything? Bottom line is simple, people want drugs so someone will find a way to get them some. The idea that the problem of illegal drugs is something that evil foreigners do to innocent Americans is too stupid for words. I wonder if there was any cocaine at Epstein's parties. I heard there was some on Wall Street. Those users didn't get arrested much, did they.
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« Reply #17664 on: January 11, 2026, 10:03:16 am »

Here is Patrick Boyle's latest take on the events in Venezuela https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FbTv5CSnZA.
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« Reply #17665 on: January 11, 2026, 11:10:18 am »

It's not the 19th century anymore. Easy to start wars maybe, not so easy to end them, let alone win any. Nobody's recent track record is very good on that. Can there be many people who'd take a bullet for Trump's  oil fantasies?

Is there any real evidence that Russia is a world power? We should stop pretending they are.

People talk about China as if they're the enemy, but they never threatened Canada or Greenland, did they? Is that propaganda at work, do you think. China has been justifiably criticized for human rights abuses but it's going to be difficult for the US to credibly make that accusation from now on. Without people laughing, I mean.

The oil barons that funded Trump found themselves in an unusual situation with Trump seemingly asking them to go to Venezuela, as if their assets are at his disposal. I guess he thought they'd be loyal. Maybe he'll use the tariff revenues to subsidize them into going to Venezuela. Now there's a good use of public money. I've kind of lost count of all the things that the tariffs will pay for. It's a bit like the loaves and the fishes.

It occurred to me today that Trump did the destruction on the White House that the 4th plane on 9/11 failed to do.

I heard yesterday (or maybe today) that Trump wants to drop bombs on cartel territory in Mexico. Is there a reliable map of cartel territory? You can build a meth lab in a RV's toilet. Can it really be worth dropping expensive bombs on worthless isolated makeshift labs. I occasionally read reports on how the banking system makes a good buck from laundering criminal money, probably done with crypto now. They never go after that money, do they. They just kill a few grunts in boats. Do people think that accomplishes anything? Bottom line is simple, people want drugs so someone will find a way to get them some. The idea that the problem of illegal drugs is something that evil foreigners do to innocent Americans is too stupid for words. I wonder if there was any cocaine at Epstein's parties. I heard there was some on Wall Street. Those users didn't get arrested much, did they.

But Russia is a nuclear power with demonstrated capability.... That is their "trump" card no matter the fool in the White House.

China's threat is economic. They have at least a thousand years of history whereby they colonize by business and take over the economy of a nation. Well known migrations from the provinces in the south of China to other areas of SE Asia as a start. More recently, Sri Lanka, Africa, and South America. It's not rapid, but it is insidious.

The "meth" labs you are thinking of are the small time players in the US and Canada. The golden triangle of SE Asia meth output puts all of that to shame, including the narcos in Central/South America. That scaling of production is what is being exported to Mexico and further south, not only as meth, but fentanyl production at industrial scale .
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« Reply #17666 on: January 11, 2026, 12:35:03 pm »

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China's threat is economic. They have at least a thousand years of history whereby they colonize by business and take over the economy of a nation. Well known migrations from the provinces in the south of China to other areas of SE Asia as a start. More recently, Sri Lanka, Africa, and South America. It's not rapid, but it is insidious.
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The US has been doing the same for a century or more, what's the difference. If the US influence is so friendly and benign, why are countries the world over shifting to trading with China? The question needs to be asked. Not long ago, countries the world over traded with Great Britain, and that ended too.

Stephen Miller stated the other day that countries in North and South American that engage in resource trade with countries other than the USA are enemies. He seems to think that it all belongs to the US. I'm sorry but trade with China seems pretty benign in comparison.
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« Reply #17667 on: January 11, 2026, 12:36:46 pm »

But Russia is a nuclear power with demonstrated capability.... That is their "trump" card no matter the fool in the White House..
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Ukraine gave up their nukes at the behest of the USA and others. I wonder how they feel about that now.
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« Reply #17668 on: January 11, 2026, 12:41:37 pm »

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The "meth" labs you are thinking of are the small time players in the US and Canada. The golden triangle of SE Asia meth output puts all of that to shame, including the narcos in Central/South America. That scaling of production is what is being exported to Mexico and further south, not only as meth, but fentanyl production at industrial scale .

The demand for illegal drugs seems to be high. Trying to stop it the way we've been doing hasn't come close to working. It's way past time to change strategy. I think it's incorrect to attribute any of Trump's actions to fighting the drug cartels, that's just an occasionally convenient cover story, a cassette tape in his head he plays out loud now and then.
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« Reply #17669 on: January 11, 2026, 02:00:10 pm »

The demand for illegal drugs seems to be high.
That IS the underlying issue; demand. Stop a supplier, and another pops up. This was discussed today on Fareed Zakaria's show with an expert (in the last segment). Perhaps a video of this interview will soon surface.
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« Reply #17670 on: January 11, 2026, 04:19:33 pm »

Some thoughts from a former pardon attorney about prosecuting ICE agents, https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2yBW84EwYtg, a very short video.

I post this purely FYI in the knowledge that the rule of law is only barely relevant in the US these days. :)

Now that they have a taste for it and can get away with, I wonder if ICE agents will be even more trigger happy. That might come it handy when it comes to scaring people away from polling stations soon.
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« Reply #17671 on: January 11, 2026, 05:43:55 pm »

Now that they have a taste for it and can get away with, I wonder if ICE agents will be even more trigger happy. That might come it handy when it comes to scaring people away from polling stations soon.
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« Reply #17672 on: January 12, 2026, 11:41:06 am »

“The US has been doing the same for a century or more, what's the difference. If the US influence is so friendly and benign, why are countries the world over shifting to trading with China? The question needs to be asked. Not long ago, countries the world over traded with Great Britain, and that ended too.

Stephen Miller stated the other day that countries in North and South American that engage in resource trade with countries other than the USA are enemies. He seems to think that it all belongs to the US. I'm sorry but trade with China seems pretty benign in comparison.”

Great Britain and lost trade.

For a start, we got out of the empire paradigm because of the natural desire for independence our once empire manifested. This was not as much a body blow as some romantics are inclined to hope or, at least, believe it to have been. Empire doesn’t consist of 100% gain; it carries with it one gargantuan responsibility towards those people that are part of it. Think India: it has an enormous, ever-growing population that is certainly not composed entirely of highly educated scientific minds. The social problems that the imbalance creates would have bankrupted Britain decades ago had it continued to try to maintain responsibility for India. That India is today promoting itself as the No3 economy of the world might or might not be based on fact - how could I possibly know? - but poverty has certainly not even started to be eradicated. In fact, there are social groups, casts, beyond any help, were it even on offer. Again, but an idea, but does the sub-continent’s leadership actively give a damn about them, spend billions of rupees attempting to lift them out of their situation?

Add to the British mix the industrial situation of the pre-Thatcher decades, where Communist-led labour unions managed to wipe out an enormous car industry, not to mention make its shipbuilding and heavy engineering history burnt toast, unable to compete, price-wise, with France, Italy and then Japan and Korea, and you will understand why the country(s) ended up a service economy, with banking and other highly competitive and rich industries eventually carrying the weight of the rest of Britain on its back. What do you do with the now unemployable? Imagine if India and bits of Africa were added to that load. The irony is this: apologists for the shipbuilding trades ignore the competitive factor, and curse owners for not investing. You know, throw more good money into the bottomless pit of industrial strife.

Funnily enough - but who’s laughing? - the US is in exactly the same state: it has been paying itself too much, and the same foreign sources that took on the failing British production offer are supplying it with goods at prices that home production can’t even look at. Solution offered? Sanctions. In other words, US citizens will have to pay even more than they once had to, and stoke up their political daydreams with the idea of reopening factories that died because they were uncompetitive. Suddenly, that‘s going to help anyone? Well, if it’s done in the style and manner of the Russian oligarchs, at least the guys, the fairies on the very tip of the Christmas tree, will see a new Christmas every day.

As for foreign countries deserting US sources, the reason has been pointed out above: uncompetitive pricing and, suddenly, on top of that, political turmoil and uncertainty. Would you seek out contracts with people you believe to be living on the brink of hallucinations?
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« Reply #17673 on: January 12, 2026, 11:43:50 am »

Ukraine gave up their nukes at the behest of the USA and others. I wonder how they feel about that now.


That they were being set up?

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« Reply #17674 on: January 12, 2026, 02:30:07 pm »

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Add to the British mix the industrial situation of the pre-Thatcher decades, where Communist-led labour unions managed to wipe out an enormous car industry, not to mention make its shipbuilding and heavy engineering history burnt toast, unable to compete, price-wise, with France, Italy and then Japan and Korea, and you will understand why the country(s) ended up a service economy, with banking and other highly competitive and rich industries eventually carrying the weight of the rest of Britain on its back. What do you do with the now unemployable? Imagine if India and bits of Africa were added to that load. The irony is this: apologists for the shipbuilding trades ignore the competitive factor, and curse owners for not investing. You know, throw more good money into the bottomless pit of industrial strife.
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That reminds me a bit about the saga of General Motors. They used to own 50% of the N.A. car market. Over the span of a generation or more, they disappeared and were reincarnated with the same brand but different corporate structure. During the years of demise, we'd often see articles in the business press here about the greedy unions or how GM had become a corporation that mostly managed pension and medical benefits. The new entity kissed all those obligations goodbye, the former employees were thrown under the bus, at least to some extent.

The thing is, during the last decades of GM's life, when Japanese manufacturers were showing people how to build cars properly, GM management had years to adapt, restructure, improve. Instead they paid themselves bonuses, ignored modern engineering developments thereby building cars that people no longer wanted to buy. Conveniently, they blamed the unions and people more or less accepted that orthodoxy. But it wasn't the guy on the line that decided which models to build, what tech to include, or how to improve the production line. That was squarely management's responsibility. The unions lost large parts of their pensions but management never had to pay their bonuses back. They rewarded themselves when things went well, but didn't pay the price of failure, although I'm sure some did.

Sometimes businesses succeed and sometimes they don't.
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« Reply #17675 on: January 12, 2026, 04:11:02 pm »

I don’t know about US unions, but the incentive in the UK car equivalent wasn’t really about pay, but very much about induced paralysis, that disease that kills any business when moving forward becomes impossible. Remember, Communism wasn’t as much an honest political stance as warfare, a way of reducing a country to destruction, opening the way for the USSR to pull the strings via its surrogates within the target country’s political and industrial structures. They were very successful, killing off several vital industries in Britain as well as crippling others in wider Europe.

Italy and its steel deals with Russia led to the introduction of sub-standard steel into its car trade, resulting in cars that rusted even as you watched them. It was so serious that it led to the total withdrawal of the Lancia marque from being sold in Britain. That Fiat X1/9 I had: bought new, I ended up discovering that the wheels had had the balancing weights added directly, metal to metal, causing corrosion, which led to Fiat replacing them free of charge. Different metals in permanent coitus in conditions of much salt on winter streets… Unfortunately, the dealership didn’t tell me until the offer had been withdrawn. I couldn’t trade that car with anyone other than the dealership from whence it had come, which was how I came to own an Alfa Romeo for a short while. A few months later, that car was bought by a guy who’d just returned to Scotland and had owned one in South Africa, right at the time we were selling our house in order to move to Spain. So yeah, I kinda do believe somebody up there cares…

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« Reply #17676 on: January 12, 2026, 10:27:35 pm »

If Covid returned, would all the ICE agents remove their masks?

Pretty much every day I see pics and video of US citizens who were maltreated by ICE. Apparently when you detain someone, you have to beat them up now. It appears that if they think someone "looks foreign" they just demand that they prove they are US citizens. Must be driving Trump nuts that he hasn't been able to induce a riot yet, even after killing an innocent white woman. Time for a false flag operation, I think, maybe Hegseth or Noem can set one up.

JD Vance was quoted the other day saying that ICE agents have absolute immunity. Oh really. Some people in authority are above the law then. Yup, that's what America stands for. The US Constition did not protect slaves, it did not protect Indians, it didn't prevent Jim Crow, and now it doesn't even protect US citizens.

Land of the free, home of the brave.
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« Reply #17677 on: January 13, 2026, 07:41:57 am »

If Covid returned, would all the ICE agents remove their masks?

Pretty much every day I see pics and video of US citizens who were maltreated by ICE. Apparently when you detain someone, you have to beat them up now. It appears that if they think someone "looks foreign" they just demand that they prove they are US citizens. Must be driving Trump nuts that he hasn't been able to induce a riot yet, even after killing an innocent white woman. Time for a false flag operation, I think, maybe Hegseth or Noem can set one up.

JD Vance was quoted the other day saying that ICE agents have absolute immunity. Oh really. Some people in authority are above the law then. Yup, that's what America stands for. The US Constition did not protect slaves, it did not protect Indians, it didn't prevent Jim Crow, and now it doesn't even protect US citizens.

Land of the free, home of the brave.


A travesty of what it was supposed to represent all those years ago.

However, my sources (which are above suspicion and obviously beyond any laws!), have just sent me a link to this secret document:

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« Reply #17678 on: January 13, 2026, 09:27:17 am »


A travesty of what it was supposed to represent all those years ago.

However, my sources (which are above suspicion and obviously beyond any laws!), have just sent me a link to this secret document:

In one of the ICE related videos from Minnesota I saw yesterday, the narrator pointed out that the ICE agent at the car window first took a facial pic of the driver because they’re under contract to provide face shots to the company that’s building a security data base. I wonder if they get a commission for every pic. That almost makes this post photography-related. :)
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« Reply #17679 on: January 13, 2026, 10:57:54 am »

I can only repeat: what the hell's happening to that country; do the citizens know, care, or feel too worried to do anything to save it before it’s too late?

Somewhere, I read a suggestion about a possible second American Civil War. Let's hope sense prevails, and some new brooms do some badly needed housekeeping chores.
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