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Alan Klein

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Re: Street photography without people
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2020, 11:18:54 am »

I'm not sure "street" photography needs people.  But whether there are people or no people, the shot should say something, tell a story either about relationships or human behavior.  Otherwise, it's just a snapshot record of a scene, more of a historical representation. At least add some interesting lighting.

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Re: Street photography without people
« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2020, 11:39:40 am »

I'm not sure "street" photography needs people.  But whether there are people or no people, the shot should say something, tell a story either about relationships or human behavior.  Otherwise, it's just a snapshot record of a scene, more of a historical representation. At least add some interesting lighting.

I don't think street or not it matters either. If it is an interesting photograph it is an interesting photograph. I don't believe single photographs tell stories. I believe documentary projects and bodies of work can in some cases. Most of those examples are also accompanied with words as most photos in new papers are to. Here is what Winogrand had to say about the matter.

About 1:26 and 1:51 starts really getting to point through about 2:46 but the whole piece is good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl4f-QFCUek

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Re: Street photography without people
« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2020, 02:21:41 pm »

I see that, Keith, and I'm sure Ansel would be the first to admit it, though my favorite Ansel picture is the woman he shot behind the screen door. But I guess my question is: why are we bringing Ansel into a discussion about street photography?

Russ, I'm not discussing 'street', but merely admiring a quote that fits with my own dislike of pigeonholes.

But we've been here many times before.
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Re: Street photography without people
« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2020, 02:38:05 pm »

I brought him in the discussion because of his views on labels and pigeon holing.
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Re: Street photography without people
« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2020, 02:53:48 pm »

I'm having a hard time understanding what the hell difference it makes. You always can ignore genre categorization if that's your pleasure. We always can have a discussion about landscape photography. We always can have a discussion about portrait photography (which I did a bunch of this morning). We always can have a discussion about travel photography. We even can have a discussion about photography without mentioning a genre. Of course that usually descends into a discussion of cameras, lenses, and other meaningless junk.
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Re: Street photography without people
« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2020, 04:28:40 pm »

My point is it doesn't and shouldn't matter if people are in or out because the term street photography is kinda silly anyway.
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Re: Street photography without people
« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2020, 03:25:05 pm »

It's not so silly, Alan, if you consider how it came about in the first place. But I agree that the name fails completely to describe the genre.
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Re: Street photography without people
« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2020, 05:52:33 pm »

At least I was kinder than WInogrand ha ha.
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Re: Street photography without people
« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2020, 01:10:47 pm »

Years ago I put together a series of photographs of road tar patches on pavement, that I sometimes refer to as "Real Street."
They have no people in any of them, but some certainly can be read as commenting on the "human condition." Here are three of them.

I lke them!
Years ago I put together a series of photographs of road tar patches on pavement, that I sometimes refer to as "Real Street."
They have no people in any of them, but some certainly can be read as commenting on the "human condition." Here are three of them.

Years ago I put together a series of photographs of road tar patches on pavement, that I sometimes refer to as "Real Street."
They have no people in any of them, but some certainly can be read as commenting on the "human condition." Here are three of them.

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Re: Street photography without people
« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2020, 02:52:40 pm »

Thank you, Only!
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Re: Street photography without people
« Reply #30 on: July 30, 2020, 03:21:18 pm »

A quote from RSL: "It's a record of what we're like now and what we were like then."  Wouldn't human artifacts satisfy this definition?  I am not arguing.  I am just posing this question.  I have always found "street photography" a confusing category.  I have found this conversation to be informative.  So, thanks to everyone participating in it.

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Re: Street photography without people
« Reply #31 on: July 30, 2020, 07:41:47 pm »

Hi Mark. I'd say that sometimes human artifacts can do the job. In fact I referred to Kertész's "Chez Mondrian" as an example. But as I've said, I agree that the name of the genre turned out to be very confusing.
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