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Re: Should the US Get Rid of Facebook and other Social Media Outlets?
« Reply #100 on: June 25, 2020, 09:40:33 pm »

More proof that Trump surrounds himself with only the best people.

Maybe we should hire Joe Biden.  He thinks 120 million Americans have died from Covid. 
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Re: Should the US Get Rid of Facebook and other Social Media Outlets?
« Reply #101 on: June 25, 2020, 09:43:07 pm »

Just thought that I would let you know that using an adjective like "massive" in conjunction with the noun "fraud" will confuse the person to whom your replying. He's rendered himself immune to understanding that using an adjective to modify a noun gives it a specific meaning. When you write "none of the massive fraud alleged", he is likely to ignore your use of massive in the sentence and assert that you mean "none of the massive fraud alleged".

When another poster in this thread stated that "rampant" voter fraud had never been proven, he spun himself in circles insisting that the poster meant that no voter fraud had ever been proven. After first trying to ignore the word, then diminish its meaning, he finally ended by redefining rampant to mean an "undetermined quantity". He went so far as to reword the posters claim with his own newly invented definition and then declared self validation of his nonsensical claim of what the poster meant!

I tried to help him understand how an adjective gave a specific meaning thus creating a modified noun. I'll try one last time and even provide a couple of hints to get him started (the "hard toy" is the xylophone and the "soft toy" is the stuffed animal).  https://www.teacherspayteachers.com/Product/Modified-Nouns-Expressive-and-Receptive-Language-4935756

* One note: President Trump has referred to voter fraud as being massive, rampant, and widespread; all words that indicate a large scale (without reference to a specific size or ratio). This was another concept he was unable to grasp; using the lack of specifics as justification for his weird definition of rampant as "undetermined quantity" and declaring such a term meaningless.

I’ll gladly stand by my posts, but thanks anyways. 
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Re: Should the US Get Rid of Facebook and other Social Media Outlets?
« Reply #102 on: June 25, 2020, 09:59:44 pm »

Maybe we should hire Joe Biden.  He thinks 120 million Americans have dried from Covid.

Dried from Covid? Maybe they just need more moisturizer.
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Re: Should the US Get Rid of Facebook and other Social Media Outlets?
« Reply #103 on: June 25, 2020, 10:01:00 pm »

Dried from Covid? Maybe they just need more moisturizer.

Gotta love auto correct. 
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Re: Should the US Get Rid of Facebook and other Social Media Outlets?
« Reply #104 on: June 25, 2020, 10:04:13 pm »

Gotta love auto correct. 
I have to click on each word to correct spelling.  Is there a way to have that done automatically?  Which program do you use for this?

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Re: Should the US Get Rid of Facebook and other Social Media Outlets?
« Reply #105 on: June 25, 2020, 10:07:46 pm »

I have to click on each word to correct spelling.  Is there a way to have that done automatically?  Which program do you use for this?

I’m using IPad OS right now. It seems to have a mind of its own sometimes.
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Re: Should the US Get Rid of Facebook and other Social Media Outlets?
« Reply #106 on: June 26, 2020, 06:43:37 am »

You should let the Federal Courts know that as they are apparently unaware. The courts granted standing in 2018 to Laura Loomer and Freedom Watch to proceed with a lawsuit against Twitter, Google, and Facebook for censorship. They just didn't win their suit in court.

They appealed to a Federal District Appeals Court and lost the appeal last month. You can sue, it doesn't mean that you will win.

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/conservative-activists-lose-lawsuit-that-accused-twitter-google-and-facebook-of-censorship/

Straw man.

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Re: Should the US Get Rid of Facebook and other Social Media Outlets?
« Reply #108 on: June 26, 2020, 08:01:16 am »

Straw man.

Yes. The Straw Man, Tin Man, Lion, and Dorothy (Google, Twitter, Facebook, and Apple) were all attacked in Federal Court by the Wicked Witch and her Flying Monkeys (Laura Loomer and Judicial Watch) where the Judges threw a bucket of cold water on their ideologically induced paranoia and victimhood causing them to melt away.

The End.
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Re: Should the US Get Rid of Facebook and other Social Media Outlets?
« Reply #109 on: June 26, 2020, 08:29:54 am »

...  the Judges threw a bucket of cold water on their ideologically induced paranoia...

Actually, no.

The judges said their case does have the ideological standing. They rejected the case on completely different grounds: that social media are not state/government linked.

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The court does, however, allow the plaintiffs to assert standing.

“The general allegation that the Platforms conspired to suppress Freedom Watch’s audience and revenue, combined with Freedom Watch’s representations that its audience and revenue declined, suffices to establish standing,” the decision notes.

But I am sure you knew all that. You just like to pretend you are successfully debunking something, for the gullible.

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Re: Should the US Get Rid of Facebook and other Social Media Outlets?
« Reply #110 on: June 26, 2020, 11:04:54 am »

Gotta love auto correct.

Gotta love the “preview” function.
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Re: Should the US Get Rid of Facebook and other Social Media Outlets?
« Reply #111 on: June 26, 2020, 04:21:23 pm »

Actually, no.

The judges said their case does have the ideological standing.

Actually, no.

They were given standing on the grounds of financial harm which they claimed was a result of conduct by Google, Twitter, Facebook, and Apple. That alleged conduct being an unlawful conspiracy to reduce their audience, which the courts rejected.

The first threshold necessary for standing, requires you to show some particular and personal harm being done by the conduct of the party that you are suing. The conduct alone is insufficient grounds for standing. It is harm or injury from some action or conduct of another that begins to establish standing in a court.

If you should ever find any case where standing was granted on "ideological" grounds, please point me to it. Good luck hunting for it.

Standing in the appeals court was automatic as there was already a judgment from a lower court. The grant of standing in the lower court was based on financial harm alleged.

From the lower court ruling: "In other words, the Plaintiffs have alleged a plausible harm—a decrease in revenues—that is fairly traceable to the alleged conspiracy by the Platforms."
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Re: Should the US Get Rid of Facebook and other Social Media Outlets?
« Reply #112 on: June 26, 2020, 05:12:40 pm »

Gotta love the “preview” function.

Too much work when your low battery light is flashing 2 percent.  Besides it’s just a forum...
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Re: Should the US Get Rid of Facebook and other Social Media Outlets?
« Reply #113 on: June 26, 2020, 07:14:20 pm »

Too much work when your low battery light is flashing 2 percent.
It's time to replace it then. Your posts have a long history of misspellings and typos and that battery is doing your reputation no good.

In my opinion, of course.

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Besides it’s just a forum...

Absolutely. Nobody's reading this anyway.

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Re: Should the US Get Rid of Facebook and other Social Media Outlets?
« Reply #114 on: June 26, 2020, 07:20:26 pm »

It's time to replace it then. Your posts have a long history of misspellings and typos and that battery is doing your reputation no good.

In my opinion, of course.

Absolutely. Nobody's reading this anyway.

I’ve been posting word salad for years.  My “reputation”?  It’s who I am and at this stage of my life I really don’t care what people think. 

Just my opinion, mind you. 
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Re: Should the US Get Rid of Facebook and other Social Media Outlets?
« Reply #115 on: June 26, 2020, 08:40:45 pm »

You just like to pretend you are successfully debunking something, for the gullible.

Pretending to debunk something? Mr Klein posted that, in regards to Twitter, "Congress has given them protection from lawsuits". I wrote a post that showed they had recently been sued in federal court. It seems obvious, to me at least, that if they have recently been sued then they don't have protection from lawsuits.

Whether a debunking is successful always lies in the eye of the beholder. Success would generally require the beholder to posses an ability to accept that which they would prefer not to believe.

As for the gullible, well, let me just suggest that if someone reads some superficial satire, they would be advised not to give it deeper meaning or intent. In other words, I would never advise that someone make a serious legal argument in opposition to a Wizard of Oz satirical allegory, as the two don't fit well in the same box.
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Re: Should the US Get Rid of Facebook and other Social Media Outlets?
« Reply #116 on: June 26, 2020, 08:52:03 pm »

I’ve been posting word salad for years.  My “reputation”?  It’s who I am and at this stage of my life I really don’t care what people think. 

Just my opinion, mind you.

I thought, you were posting your thoughts for others to read. If they are just for you, no point publishing them.
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Re: Should the US Get Rid of Facebook and other Social Media Outlets?
« Reply #117 on: June 26, 2020, 09:01:03 pm »

Pretending to debunk something? Mr Klein posted that, in regards to Twitter, "Congress has given them protection from lawsuits". I wrote a post that showed they had recently been sued in federal court. It seems obvious, to me at least, that if they have recently been sued then they don't have protection from lawsuits.

Whether a debunking is successful always lies in the eye of the beholder. Success would generally require the beholder to posses an ability to accept that which they would prefer not to believe.

As for the gullible, well, let me just suggest that if someone reads some superficial satire, they would be advised not to give it deeper meaning or intent. In other words, I would never advise that someone make a serious legal argument in opposition to a Wizard of Oz satirical allegory, as the two don't fit well in the same box.

I was referring to the following.  Sorry if I wasn't clear.

"Section 230 makes internet service providers, like Google and Facebook, immune from lawsuits based on claims related to content published by third-parties using their service. For example, if someone posts a fake Google Review about your business that is defamatory, you generally cannot sue Google for defamation. This is because they are immune under Section 230 of the CDA."

https://www.minclaw.com/legal-resource-center/what-is-section-230-of-the-communication-decency-act-cda/

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Re: Should the US Get Rid of Facebook and other Social Media Outlets?
« Reply #118 on: June 26, 2020, 09:13:34 pm »

I thought, you were posting your thoughts for others to read. If they are just for you, no point publishing them.

Read to your hearts content or not, it not a problem for me either way.  I am who I am.
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Re: Should the US Get Rid of Facebook and other Social Media Outlets?
« Reply #119 on: June 26, 2020, 09:22:08 pm »

Read to your hearts content or not, it not a problem for me either way.  I am who I am.

That could be part of the problem.  ;)
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