PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political

[Peter McLennan]

In other words...doesn't do anything about community spread of Covid.

Of course not.  If it did, don't you think the scientists of the world would be all over this amazing new device?

Just another example of unverified assertions.  Otherwise known as lies and bullshit.

[Alan Klein]

Correction:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dream-city-church-arizona-megachurch-trump-rally-air-purifier-covid-19-coronavirus/

They could rinse their mouths out with Clorox.

[hogloff]

If those filters are loud enough, they could prevent spreading of the religious sermons.

Or more importantly Trumps's lies about Covid...or in fact just about anything out of his mouth.

[hogloff]

They could rinse their mouths out with Clorox.

Nope...need to swallow to be effective.

[Chris Kern]

I can only plead with everyone to refrain from personal insults. It is obvious that each side strongly dislikes the other side's opinion, and by extension, sometimes dislikes the person expressing it, but can we at least attempt to have a discussion based on facts and opinions, rather than insults?

That kind of level-headed, reasoned comment is completely out-of-place in this thread.

[Alan Klein]

Nope...need to swallow to be effective.

That sounds like a permanent solution.

[Craig Lamson]

Correction:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dream-city-church-arizona-megachurch-trump-rally-air-purifier-covid-19-coronavirus/

Sheesh, they said the device would clean the air, prior to people coming in.   Gotta love the way fake news creates propaganda...

[Craig Lamson]

Of course not.  If it did, don't you think the scientists of the world would be all over this amazing new device?

Just another example of unverified assertions.  Otherwise known as lies and bullshit.

It appears your ability to read and comprehend the claims made might be compromised.

Now, nothing amazing or new here, just tech that works and has been around for some time.

[Peter McLennan]

Sheesh, they said the device would clean the air, prior to people coming in.   Gotta love the way fake news creates propaganda...

Trouble is, Craig, it's the people that bring the virus into the environment. They don't catch the virus from the church air, they catch it from each other.

Clean air before they arrive is irrelevant.

[hogloff]

That sounds like a permanent solution.

Yep...might be the making of the vaccine that might be going into trials in the fall. You getting in line?

[hogloff]

Sheesh, they said the device would clean the air, prior to people coming in.   Gotta love the way fake news creates propaganda...

How does this help in the spread of Covid from person to person?

[Craig Lamson]

Trouble is, Craig, it's the people that bring the virus into the environment. They don't catch the virus from the church air, they catch it from each other.

Clean air before they arrive is irrelevant.

Well no, it’s not irrelevant.  You clean the air after people leave to try and make sure the space is clean and safe. It also can’t hurt the have the devices at work while people are present.  And yes people might bring the virus in, which is why they are giving out masks.

The church wanted to let its congregation know about the efforts it was making to create a clean environment.  Thanks to fake news it somehow got blown out of proportion as some sort of magic bullet which would prevent Covid.  Fake news at its finest.  The news looks like the lies and bull crap.

[Craig Lamson]

How does this help in the spread of Covid from person to person?

Did the church say that it did?  They said they wanted a clean building.  But ask yourself, do you think it’s bad to try and remove the virus from the air in an enclosed space that might be contaminated by people who had used the space? Or maybe removing some part of the contamination while people are present. 

Sheesh. This is simply a silly argument about some church  trying to add a layer of cleanliness to their building.  Thanks to the media for blowing it all out of proportion.

[Robert Roaldi]

I thought that the testing slow-down idea had run its course through the news cycle, just another mouth fart from Trump that everyone was going to ignore like most things he says or tweets, but I was wrong. The story continues as he doubles down, https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/23/trump-joking-slowing-coronavirus-testing-335459. Hard to believe this crap is real.

[hogloff]

Did the church say that it did?  They said they wanted a clean building.  But ask yourself, do you think it’s bad to try and remove the virus from the air in an enclosed space that might be contaminated by people who had used the space? Or maybe removing some part of the contamination while people are present. 

Sheesh. This is simply a silly argument about some church  trying to add a layer of cleanliness to their building.  Thanks to the media for blowing it all out of proportion.

So no real affect in controlling Covid spread. Just nice clean air to breathe in...all the while your neighbour next to you spews out the virus because he follows Trump in not wearing a mask. Gotcha.

[Craig Lamson]

So no real affect in controlling Covid spread. Just nice clean air to breathe in...all the while your neighbour next to you spews out the virus because he follows Trump in not wearing a mask. Gotcha.

Well is there real effect? If the air is clean to breath when you come in, and contaminates are not present, is that not some effect that could help control the spread of covid?  Have you seen the video of how the airborn virus spread in a place like a supermarket with HVAC?  You think it hurts or has zero value?  You also are assuming your neighbor is infected.  And for the record I'm for wearing mask and have been since htis started.

The point is an alway was the church was trying to provide a clean building.  And of course because the left media despise Trump so the church gets thrashed.

[LesPalenik]

Best thing would be to get rid of all religious incenses and allergic fragrances (including the heavy perfume worn by some female parishioners). In many cases, the smoke from burning incense can exacerbate asthma. Especially if it is a commercial incense, like frankincense. If the incense makes you cough or sneeze, the virus particles fly from you at 200km/h and farther than 2 meters.

Church's use of frankincense can deeply affect people with respiratory problems and cause coughing fits and force them out of the church to seek fresh air.

https://www.learnreligions.com/incense-asthma-and-allergies-2562145

Regardless, it would be much safer to go to a park, beach or even cemetery.

[jeremyrh]

Correct, it was a fake, and I found out a few minutes ago myself. Thanks for providing a link. I removed my post.

And this is why it's worth engaging with you - even if you're mostly wrong about everything.

(But it is telling that you were ready to believe something that smelled so fishy in the first place!)

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

And this is why it's worth engaging with you - even if you're mostly wrong about everything.

(But it is telling that you were ready to believe something that smelled so fishy in the first place!)

Reality these days is stranger than fiction, my friend.

But what was not a hoax is Bill Maher’s similar post/quote, wishing for a recession before the election, to topple Trump. As I am sure it is on many Democrats’ mind, though not that stupid to state it publicly.  As is the purpose of all those prolonged lockdowns in Democratic states.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

https://www.newsweek.com/houston-protesters-begin-fall-ill-coronavirus-after-marching-george-floyd-1511066?fbclid=IwAR01fqWlKVhy1_nr_9QQQdet8vN5ztk0WQ4_PBLd185tPquRM50c0LHH828