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Craig Lamson

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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #5740 on: June 22, 2020, 12:52:39 pm »

The prejudiced left would respond: "typical brain dead, mis-spelled, right-wing response."  However, I won't.

The "liberal ideal" (unfortunately for you) includes the necessity of validating wild-ass assertions.  If you can back 'em up. Fine.  Let's all hear them and get educated.

If you can't, or won't, it's just more lies and bullshit.

And we're oh, so tired of lies and bullshit.

 Oh the hate😂😂😂😂 it truly become you. So lefty!

Play you own game egghead.  So show me my lies.  Or it it just more of you brain dead bull shite.

If you are so inept that you can’t even use google to validate  a claim  ( which I do all the tome when dip shites like you make them) you are pretty much worthless.  I’m not your keeper nor your teacher.  If you find you question something I say, then prove me wrong.  Or is that just totally beyond you?


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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #5741 on: June 22, 2020, 12:53:59 pm »

I believe he was mocking Slobodan's two most recent replies to his posts containing only the words "Utter nonsense."

His too
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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #5742 on: June 22, 2020, 12:57:19 pm »

Describing what he did as "fight with the police" is a stretch of imagination... but as the song says:

"On these streets, Charles
You've got to understand the rules
If an officer stops you, promise me you'll always be polite
And that you'll never ever run away
Promise Mama you'll keep your hands in sight"

Otherwise, you might get killed.

Lots more happened with Floyd than you see in knee on the neck video. Try to find the footage of him fighting while they tried to get him in the car.  Not something the left wants to show because it goes against the narrative.
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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #5743 on: June 22, 2020, 01:09:05 pm »

Try to find the footage of him fighting while they tried to get him in the car.  Not something the left wants to show because it goes against the narrative.

I'd like to see this. Do you have a link? Google doesn't turn up anything.
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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #5744 on: June 22, 2020, 01:56:38 pm »

I've warned you all before. The Floyd discussion has bugger all to do with covid-19. If you must have it at all (it's generating a lot of heat and absolutely no light), have it somewhere else.

Jeremy
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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #5745 on: June 22, 2020, 02:50:21 pm »

I've warned you all before. The Floyd discussion has bugger all to do with covid-19. If you must have it at all (it's generating a lot of heat and absolutely no light), have it somewhere else.

Jeremy

Why does it matter what thread title a flowing, evolving discussion that's passionate for a few and irrelevant (or actively disliked) by everyone else is pigeonholed into?  I'd ask via DM, but the answer might help me and others understand why it's important to stay so strictly on topic here specifically, especially when so many folks have decried political issues spreading to other bits and bytes?
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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #5746 on: June 22, 2020, 03:00:20 pm »

This thread is where the politics of the virus begins and ends. Free-flowing political discussions may take place elsewhere and may cover any, or indeed all, topics. Here, though, it's virus-related and, as I have made clear, there are almost no rules: in that sense, it is sui generis.

Jeremy
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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #5747 on: June 22, 2020, 03:11:17 pm »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhXo1BbFumE

A lesson on leadership, empathy and... democracy.

Cheers,
Bernard

Thanks Bernard. I had not seen that interview.

Here's an example of leadership, empathy, and democracy at the presidential level. Only two minutes long and worth watching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdNEOtGRi_w
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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #5748 on: June 22, 2020, 04:57:59 pm »

You guys are getting me in trouble with my thread.  Stick to the virus.  :)

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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #5749 on: June 22, 2020, 05:17:07 pm »

Back at the White House, Trump receives the news that, in addition to the six advance staff (including two Secret Service agents) who were infected with COVID-19 before the rally, two more tested positive upon return from Tulsa. One wonders how many more will test positive in the coming days. Virus, what virus?

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/22/coronavirus-2-more-trump-campaign-rally-staffers-test-positive-for-covid-19.html
« Last Edit: June 22, 2020, 05:22:20 pm by faberryman »
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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #5750 on: June 22, 2020, 05:28:59 pm »

This thread is where the politics of the virus begins and ends. Free-flowing political discussions may take place elsewhere and may cover any, or indeed all, topics. Here, though, it's virus-related and, as I have made clear, there are almost no rules: in that sense, it is sui generis.

Jeremy

To clarify then, political discussions are allowed on other threads/topics, but the "rules of engagement" as it were are more stringent.  This thread has loose rules of conduct, but topics are restricted things that relate to COVID-19?
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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #5751 on: June 22, 2020, 05:54:14 pm »

Back at the White House, Trump receives the news that, in addition to the six advance staff (including two Secret Service agents) who were infected with COVID-19 before the rally, two more tested positive upon return from Tulsa. One wonders how many more will test positive in the coming days. Virus, what virus?

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/22/coronavirus-2-more-trump-campaign-rally-staffers-test-positive-for-covid-19.html

Yeh, but if they didn't test them, no one would know and everything would be fine. Logic from the fearless leader.
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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #5752 on: June 23, 2020, 04:06:08 am »

Oh the hate😂😂😂😂 it truly become you. So lefty!

Play you own game egghead.  So show me my lies.  Or it it just more of you brain dead bull shite.

If you are so inept that you can’t even use google to validate  a claim  ( which I do all the tome when dip shites like you make them) you are pretty much worthless.  I’m not your keeper nor your teacher.  If you find you question something I say, then prove me wrong.  Or is that just totally beyond you?

I only dip into this thread now and then - but is this what it has come to?  I'm afraid Craig you completely lose any respect from me with this sort of post.  And I did read back a few pages to see the context of your remarks.  I have every respect for healthy debate, but when I see this sort of vitriol I know it is time to walk away.......

Jim
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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #5753 on: June 23, 2020, 04:16:53 am »

To clarify then, political discussions are allowed on other threads/topics, but the "rules of engagement" as it were are more stringent.  This thread has loose rules of conduct, but topics are restricted things that relate to COVID-19?

Yes. If you'd taken the trouble to read my post a few weeks ago, you'd have realised that already. It's perfectly clear.

Jeremy
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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #5754 on: June 23, 2020, 04:18:44 am »

Oh the hate😂😂😂😂 it truly become you. So lefty!

Play you own game egghead.  So show me my lies.  Or it it just more of you brain dead bull shite.

If you are so inept that you can’t even use google to validate  a claim  ( which I do all the tome when dip shites like you make them) you are pretty much worthless.  I’m not your keeper nor your teacher.  If you find you question something I say, then prove me wrong.  Or is that just totally beyond you?

Craig, learn some manners or leave. There are limits to the extent of petulant rudeness that I will tolerate, even in this thread. Final, and public, warning.

Jeremy
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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #5755 on: June 23, 2020, 04:58:30 am »

Lots more happened with Floyd than you see in knee on the neck video. Try to find the footage of him fighting while they tried to get him in the car.  Not something the left wants to show because it goes against the narrative.

I have seen the complete footage (I think on BBC), including some interviews with people that called attention to the police that Floyd was having trouble breathing. Taken from the other side of the street. He was not fighting. He was already in hand cuffs.

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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #5756 on: June 23, 2020, 05:49:26 am »

I have seen the complete footage (I think on BBC), including some interviews with people that called attention to the police that Floyd was having trouble breathing. Taken from the other side of the street. He was not fighting. He was already in hand cuffs.

Like in many other similar cases, we see on video only the end of the story, not the origin. From what I read immediately after the event, he was handcuffed and was about to be put into the car, when he started resisting, claiming he is claustrophobic and can't get in the car. Note that he was 1.93m tall (6' 4") and big, thus quite capable of resisting the attempt to be put into the car, even in handcuffs. That is the reason he was placed on the ground, using the standard police restraining technique. His death was a tragic accident*, not intentional killing. Nor it is racist, as a white guy ended up dead under almost the same circumstances in Dallas a few years ago, not even being a criminal, but schizophrenic off his medication (I posted a WaPo link about it a few pages back). And in general, whites are killed almost twice as often by the police than blacks. Blacks represent only ¼ of all killed by the police, while they are involved in 53% of all homicides and 60% of all robberies (I posted a link to those stats a few pages back as well).

*EDIT to clarify: a tragic accident, due to a careless application of a standard police restraining technique.
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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #5757 on: June 23, 2020, 05:51:55 am »

I only dip into this thread now and then - but is this what it has come to?  I'm afraid Craig you completely lose any respect from me with this sort of post.  And I did read back a few pages to see the context of your remarks.  I have every respect for healthy debate, but when I see this sort of vitriol I know it is time to walk away.......

Jim

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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #5758 on: June 23, 2020, 07:15:22 am »

I posted a link to those stats a few pages back as well

Which will be just as irrelevant the next time they're repeated. The toxic evil that inspires the narrow-minded tunnel vision that reduces human beings to catalogs of characteristics will remain, however, for all of us to face.
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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #5759 on: June 23, 2020, 07:40:02 am »

Craig, learn some manners or leave. There are limits to the extent of petulant rudeness that I will tolerate, even in this thread. Final, and public, warning.

Jeremy

Fair enough.
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