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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #5540 on: June 11, 2020, 05:50:02 pm »

Any proof of that? Or you just throw a claim off the top of your head (not to mention some other anatomical places), to appease your non-sexist woke persona?

https://globalhealth5050.org/covid19/sex-disaggregated-data-tracker/

(In most countries, women are slightly more likely to contract Covid than men.)
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« Reply #5541 on: June 11, 2020, 05:51:56 pm »

If correct, one possible explanation is that more frequent hand washing transfers less viruses, thus causing less severe symptoms.

Could be, when it comes to acquiring the virus. Maybe women wash their hands more frequently, while the men keep their hands in their pockets.
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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #5542 on: June 11, 2020, 06:14:39 pm »

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/17/us/women-men-hand-washing-coronavirus.html

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« Reply #5543 on: June 11, 2020, 08:21:43 pm »

In addition to being a state senator, the questioner is also a physician. He was fired by his employer, TeamHealth, following the hearing.

I have enclosed a link to a Washington Post article. I hope most of you can access it.  Here is a quote from the article:

"In a phone interview with The Washington Post late Wednesday, Huffman defended himself, insisting that his language was not intended to be derogatory. Huffman added that he thought the phrases “people of color” and “colored population” were similar.

“People of color would have been better, but they seem to be interchangeable,” he said, before stressing repeatedly that the question had been rhetorical."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/11/black-coronavirus-ohio-gop/
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« Reply #5544 on: June 11, 2020, 08:26:24 pm »

Want to show your support for el señor Loco's re-election effort?  Get your tickets now for his Oklahoma rally later this month.  Just sign on the dotted line.  Masks are optional, needless to say.

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Hold your breath for upcoming rallies in Florida, Arizona, and North Carolina.  Seriously, please hold your breath: coronavirus cases are rising in all three states.

(In case of inclement polling data, Mr. Trump will address the rally from his luxuriously-appointed bunker beneath the White House.)

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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #5545 on: June 11, 2020, 08:50:59 pm »

Want to show your support for el señor Loco's re-election effort?  Get your tickets now for his Oklahoma rally later this month.  Just sign on the dotted line.  Masks are optional, needless to say.

Hold your breath for upcoming rallies in Florida, Arizona, and North Carolina.  Seriously, please hold your breath: coronavirus cases are rising in all three states.

(In case of inclement polling data, Mr. Trump will address the rally from his luxuriously-appointed bunker beneath the White House.)

maybe it is because in Florida, Arizona, and North Carolina they do not wash their hands often enough. A cultural problem.
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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #5546 on: June 11, 2020, 09:29:49 pm »

Illuminated casino sign seen in recently-reopened Vegas:

(edit) : "Think dirty thoughts, but keep your hands clean"  :)
« Last Edit: June 11, 2020, 11:59:25 pm by Peter McLennan »
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« Reply #5547 on: June 11, 2020, 09:52:23 pm »

In addition to being a state senator, the questioner is also a physician. He was fired by his employer, TeamHealth, following the hearing.

I have enclosed a link to a Washington Post article. I hope most of you can access it.  Here is a quote from the article:

"In a phone interview with The Washington Post late Wednesday, Huffman defended himself, insisting that his language was not intended to be derogatory. Huffman added that he thought the phrases “people of color” and “colored population” were similar.

“People of color would have been better, but they seem to be interchangeable,” he said, before stressing repeatedly that the question had been rhetorical."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/11/black-coronavirus-ohio-gop/

So, it's a linguistic problem then. It's so entertaining when morons double down.
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« Reply #5548 on: June 11, 2020, 09:55:32 pm »

Seriously, you can't possibly be that stupid to claim there is a single, monolithic "American culture"?

Then there must not be a monolithic "people of color" culture either.
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« Reply #5549 on: June 11, 2020, 11:38:30 pm »

The speech police are out in force.

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« Reply #5550 on: June 12, 2020, 12:02:27 am »

Seriously, you can't possibly be that stupid to claim there is a single, monolithic "American culture"?

On crossing Beartooth pass I noted that the highway was termed on a sign as "All American".

So what does it mean when something is termed "All American"  ?

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« Reply #5551 on: June 12, 2020, 02:38:58 am »

Then there must not be a monolithic "people of color" culture either.

Correct.

Just like the finding that women are more likely to wash their hands more often doesn’t nor mean there are no men doing the same. Just less likely.

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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #5552 on: June 12, 2020, 02:45:11 am »

On crossing Beartooth pass I noted that the highway was termed on a sign as "All American".

So what does it mean when something is termed "All American"  ?.

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The most scenic byways are designated All-American Roads, which must meet two out of the six intrinsic qualities. The designation means they have features that do not exist elsewhere in the United States and are unique and important enough to be tourist destinations unto themselves. As of November 2010, there are 120 National Scenic Byways and 31 All-American Roads...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Scenic_Byway

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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #5553 on: June 12, 2020, 03:56:45 am »

https://a.msn.com/r/2/BB15mTSC?m=en-us&referrerID=InAppShare

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As a result, the American Cancer Society announced the layoffs of 1,000 employees Thursday in an effort to shrink its overall budget, according to a statement.
The Atlanta-based nonprofit cited significant impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic on fundraising in just a short period of time.

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« Reply #5554 on: June 12, 2020, 05:26:00 am »

The largest nongovernmental supporter of cancer research in the United States is facing major financial hardship during the ongoing novel coronavirus pandemic.
As a result, the American Cancer Society announced the layoffs of 1,000 employees Thursday in an effort to shrink its overall budget, according to a statement.
The Atlanta-based nonprofit cited significant impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic on fundraising in just a short period of time.

That's just one side of the coin. Even a bigger question is how many cancer patients died because of the lockdown and not receiving the treatment.
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« Reply #5555 on: June 12, 2020, 08:38:39 am »

The speech police are out in force.

Sure, Alan.  Kind of like if instead of “colored people” he’d drawn a made a male/female distinction by saying, “...because bitches wash their hands more...”
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« Reply #5556 on: June 12, 2020, 09:56:39 am »

Sure, Alan.  Kind of like if instead of “colored people” he’d drawn a made a male/female distinction by saying, “...because bitches wash their hands more...”
I think you're being too harsh on this fellow.  He meant no harm and was not saying it in a derogatory manner, I believe.  Terminology has gone through a lot of changes over the years.  As a white kid growing up in the north in the 50's, colored was used.  I did not associate the word as being negative although it may have to Black people.  Then it changed to Negro-American, African-American, and Black-American.   If I left anything out or got the wrong order, I'm not trying to insult anyone.  It's just my ignorance of the matter. White people were white or Caucasian although most people called and identified by the heritage: Italian, Jewish, Irish, Polish, etc. I think most white people using the terms colored people instead of people of color are confused or ignorant, but not vindictive.  Even the NAACP still uses it in its name - National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.  What are we supposed to make of that?  In any case, I think we've gone overboard with policing speech.  I think we all need to lighten up a little.

Here's an interesting and enlightening article for all people regarding this issue that I found when researching origins.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/dahleen-glanton/ct-dahleen-glanton-colored-email-reading-list-20200304-utx7geiwm5hupa3t7w6xr3xqn4-story.html

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« Reply #5557 on: June 12, 2020, 12:08:32 pm »

I think you're being too harsh on this fellow.  He meant no harm and was not saying it in a derogatory manner, I believe.  Terminology has gone through a lot of changes over the years.  As a white kid growing up in the north in the 50's, colored was used.  I did not associate the word as being negative although it may have to Black people.  Then it changed to Negro-American, African-American, and Black-American.   If I left anything out or got the wrong order, I'm not trying to insult anyone.  It's just my ignorance of the matter. White people were white or Caucasian although most people called and identified by the heritage: Italian, Jewish, Irish, Polish, etc. I think most white people using the terms colored people instead of people of color are confused or ignorant, but not vindictive.  Even the NAACP still uses it in its name - National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.  What are we supposed to make of that?  In any case, I think we've gone overboard with policing speech.  I think we all need to lighten up a little.

Here's an interesting and enlightening article for all people regarding this issue that I found when researching origins.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/dahleen-glanton/ct-dahleen-glanton-colored-email-reading-list-20200304-utx7geiwm5hupa3t7w6xr3xqn4-story.html

It's a convenient diversion from what he said to go down the rabbit hole of his choice of words, as if the issue here was politically correct speech. If he had used a more current term for the "group" in question, would his implication be less odious?

He's a jackass, there's no need to stick up for him just because you have some vague feeling that he is part of your tribe.


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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #5558 on: June 12, 2020, 01:54:18 pm »

... would his implication be less odious?...

What implication? That personal hygiene is not a top priority in ghettos? If it is said that the colored people (using the NAACP wording) are disproportionally affected by the virus, do you think it applies to Oprahs and Obamas of the world? Or to the poor communities, with old and sick people? And if the colored people are a disproportionate part of the poor and sick, than the personal hygiene in those communities might be an issue.

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« Reply #5559 on: June 12, 2020, 01:59:50 pm »

What implication? That personal hygiene is not a top priority in ghettos? If it is said that the colored people (using the NAACP wording) are disproportionally affected by the virus, do you think it applies to Oprahs and Obamas of the world? Or to the poor communities, with old and sick people? And if the colored people are a disproportionate part of the poor and sick, than the personal hygiene in those communities might be an issue.

Or more likely access to adequate health care. We know the virus runs havoc on people with existing health conditions...maybe the lack of health care for these poor is why they are disproportionally affected by the virus.

There has been reports out that claim the majority of the spread of the virus is through the air, not through contact with objects...so I don't see hygiene being a huge factor why the poor get affected more by the virus.
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