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[Alan Klein]

Ocasio-Cortez: "It's legitimate to talk about" allegations against Biden

You know never say never!  Because I never thought I would agree with AOC on anything. 

If you ignore your convictions when it is inconvenient, then you never had any convictions to begin with.  People openly vilifying AOC over this, and there are plenty of Dems doing so, just shows nearly the entire MeToo movement in politics was nothing but a political farce. 

Like I said the anti-Trump media will defend Biden no matter what.  You can't even find the story in the news.  Meanwhile they crucified Kavanaugh.  They're all phonies. 

[Craig Lamson]

Well let's hear how he saved lives. I can tell you how lives were lost...a bunch of lives...26,000 and counting up every day.

Yeh...he did a swell job...and like in typical Trump fashion he's looking to blame someone...the WHO today, CDC yesterday, certain ( democratic ) governers. No...Trump is squeaky clean.

Surely Craig you must have seen this movie before...cornered and blaming everyone else...no accountability.

We can start by him banning certain flights. We can add in working to make supplies that the States had failed to stockpile themselves available and delivering them.  We can look to his 15 day guidelines which surely saved lives. 

So yea he did do a swell job. 

Yea, lots of people are to blame for this virus getting out of China and into the world.  The WHO screwed up bigly.  The CDC screwed up bigly.  And Govenors screwed up as well..from both parties.  And somehoiw this is Trumps fault?

You are lost in the fog.  Like I said, put the bears down....

[LesPalenik]

Well, they re-elected their PM after he told them he wasn't a bigot even if he wore black face three times.  That we know about.

Painting one's face in black was stupid and childish.
Complaining about it and repeating it here 20 times belongs into the same category.

[Alan Klein]

Painting one's face in black was stupid and childish.
Complaining about it and repeating it here 20 times belongs into the same category.

So does listening to Canadian's insult our president.  Enough with the insults from your compatriots.  If they can't take it, then they shouldn't dish it out.  But your Canadians have been merciless in insulting our president.  Knock it off.

[JoeKitchen]

Like I said the anti-Trump media will defend Biden no matter what.  You can't even find the story in the news.  Meanwhile they crucified Kavanaugh.  They're all phonies.

NYT’s In-Depth Investigation Of The Allegations Against Biden Reveals That He’s A Democrat

The NYTs did an article this past weekend and initially wrote “The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable.”

They then edited it to read "The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden."

When asked why, Dean Baquet openly admitted that they made the change at the request of the Biden campaign.  This is completely corrupt, and the amazing part is that Baquet, and others who claim to be "journalists," are so use to this that they don't even realize how corrupt they are. 

They are going to make the same mistake Hillary did.  They will ignore this, along with Hunter Biden and Joe Biden's brother, along with a bunch of other stuff, meanwhile it will just simmer under the surface until it finally boils over in the fall. 

[chez]

We can start by him banning certain flights. We can add in working to make supplies that the States had failed to stockpile themselves available and delivering them.  We can look to his 15 day guidelines which surely saved lives. 

So yea he did do a swell job. 

Yea, lots of people are to blame for this virus getting out of China and into the world.  The WHO screwed up bigly.  The CDC screwed up bigly.  And Govenors screwed up as well..from both parties.  And somehoiw this is Trumps fault?

You are lost in the fog.  Like I said, put the bears down....

Yeh...stopped foreigners from coming in...good. But he let in 40,000 Americans, many from China without testing them, without quaranteening them...just let them loose to spread the good news...FAIL.

Shelves were empty and now a scramble to fill them. Trump had 3 years to do this...but did not. FAIL.

His 15 day guidelines came with mixed message...it will magically go away by April. Many of his cronie Governors did not take him seriously...like the partying on Florida beaches. FAIL.

Yeh...he's just a darling that did nothing wrong...now he's doing his usual political dance blaming everyone out there...at a time where he should be totally focussed on dealing with his shit storm...he's busy politicking for the fall election. That political propoganda video he ran during his news conference was a desperate measure from a desperate man.

[Alan Klein]

 

NYT’s In-Depth Investigation Of The Allegations Against Biden Reveals That He’s A Democrat

The NYTs did an article this past weekend and initially wrote “The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable.”

They then edited it to read "The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden."

When asked why, Dean Baquet openly admitted that they made the change at the request of the Biden campaign.  This is completely corrupt, and the amazing part is that Baquet, and others who claim to be "journalists," are so use to this that they don't even realize how corrupt they are. 

Like I said, the NY Times and all the other phony media would protect Biden if someone revealed a 4K UHD video with stereo sound.  They'd claim it was photoshopped and dismiss it as Republican dirty-tricks. 

[LesPalenik]

So does listening to Canadian's insult our president.  Enough with the insults from your compatriots.  If they can't take it, then they shouldn't dish it out.  But your Canadians have been merciless in insulting our president.  Knock it off.

Trudeau painted his face years ago, before he got into politics. That action didn't kill any human lives nor inflicted any economic damage.
Trump downplayed the virus situation and bears responsibility for thousands of deaths when he was a sitting president against advice from experts.
The world would be a better place if he kept his mouth shut and instead painted his face. In any color.

[armand]

Does Karen Whitsett work?

Michigan Democrat thanks Trump, hydroxychloroquine for helping save her life from coronavirus

"It has a lot to do with the president."

Well, this has to top what I thought can be said here. People can say many things not knowing what they talk but worry not, those waiting for something to fit their narrative will jump right in. If she had a sugar pill there was a significant chance she would have felt better: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo
In many big places it's not being given anymore. There is no current compelling data that hydroxychloroquine works but plenty that it can harm: https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19-what-do-the-clinical-trials-tell-us/

If that's what you come up with it's better to try something else.



On a second note, cutting the WHO funding at this moment is criminal. Regardless of what missteps they took in the beginning, they are a huge part in the world fight against this. For the idiots out there who think America First, if this doesn't get better in the rest of world, it will come back here in US.
AMA statement: https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/ama-statements/ama-statement-halting-world-health-organization-funding?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social_ama&utm_term=3277556392&utm_campaign=Public+Health
An article in Washington Post about it, Why Trump and his allies’ criticisms of the WHO are wrong: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/13/who-needs-us-funding-weakening-it-will-undermine-global-response/

[JoeKitchen]

Well, this has to top what I thought can be said here. People can say many things not knowing what they talk but worry not, those waiting for something to fit their narrative will jump right in. If she had a sugar pill there was a significant chance she would have felt better: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo
In many big places it's not being given anymore. There is no current compelling data that hydroxychloroquine works but plenty that it can harm: https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19-what-do-the-clinical-trials-tell-us/

If that's what you come up with it's better to try something else.



On a second note, cutting the WHO funding at this moment is criminal. Regardless of what missteps they took in the beginning, they are a huge part in the world fight against this. For the idiots out there who think America First, if this doesn't get better in the rest of world, it will come back here in US.
AMA statement: https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/ama-statements/ama-statement-halting-world-health-organization-funding?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social_ama&utm_term=3277556392&utm_campaign=Public+Health
An article in Washington Post about it, Why Trump and his allies’ criticisms of the WHO are wrong: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/13/who-needs-us-funding-weakening-it-will-undermine-global-response/

This post just shows nothing will ever be good enough for you. 


BTW, if these lock downs are so important, why is FL not getting creamed?  The took much longer to have a lockdown, were filled with Spring Breakers running around and FL has an old native population?  Bodies should be piling up down there, but they are not.  Kind of strange considering how much people are touting this lock down. 

[armand]

This post just shows nothing will ever be good enough for you. 

No, it means that post is only self serving but that is not data (or proof), the bar it's much much higher than that. At best, and there is some argument against it also, it's an anecdotal data of 1.

BTW, if these lock downs are so important, why is FL not getting creamed?  The took much longer to have a lockdown, were filled with Spring Breakers running around and FL has an old native population?  Bodies should be piling up down there, but they are not.  Kind of strange considering how much people are touting this lock down. 

I'm not familiar with the current status in Florida, but I would wait a little longer before you call this.

[John Camp]

This post just shows nothing will ever be good enough for you. 


BTW, if these lock downs are so important, why is FL not getting creamed?  The took much longer to have a lockdown, were filled with Spring Breakers running around and FL has an old native population?  Bodies should be piling up down there, but they are not.  Kind of strange considering how much people are touting this lock down.

Joe, they are piling up down there.

https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/florida-surpasses-21300-coronavirus-cases-nearly-525-deaths/2219694/

[Alan Klein]

Trudeau painted his face years ago, before he got into politics. That action didn't kill any human lives nor inflicted any economic damage.
Trump downplayed the virus situation and bears responsibility for thousands of deaths when he was a sitting president against advice from experts.
The world would be a better place if he kept his mouth shut and instead painted his face. In any color.

Les, Trump also was never a politician until he became president.  Yet Canadians here mercilessly attack him for four years for what he did in civilian life beforehand.  So it's fair play to attack Trudeau as well, especially since his father was in politics as PM.  He should have known better.  After all, he was a 29 year-old teacher the third time he did the black face routine.  And he claims he really doesn't remember all the times he did it.  How can a people elect a child like that as their leader?  Don't Canadians have any pride? 

Trudeau says he can't recall how many times he wore blackface makeup
The latest images came in a short, undated video clip published by Global News in which, Trudeau – his face, arms and legs painted black – waves at the camera and sticks his tongue out. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/19/justin-trudeau-wearing-blackface-details-emerge-third-incident

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

... BTW, if these lock downs are so important, why is FL not getting creamed?  The took much longer to have a lockdown, were filled with Spring Breakers running around and FL has an old native population?  Bodies should be piling up down there, but they are not.  Kind of strange considering how much people are touting this lock down. 

Not just FL. There is no correlation between the speed of lockdown and the number of deaths anywhere in the US.

https://medium.com/@yinonweiss/lets-visualize-state-by-state-shutdown-effectiveness-on-covid-19-e13a5cdb50ad

One would expect that the faster a State shut down, the less deaths it would incur, but that’s surprisingly not what we find. There is virtually zero correlation between speed of shut down and expected death totals.

[JoeKitchen]

Joe, they are piling up down there.

https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/florida-surpasses-21300-coronavirus-cases-nearly-525-deaths/2219694/

Yeah, just like there would be only 200 Michiganders protesting the governor.  Facebook Group has over 250,000 new members. 

BTW, recent polling is showing the majority of Americans are more concerned with the economy then the virus right now. 

There is this great exit ramp for politicians right now.  They can start opening the economy and still claim victory, and most will believe them.  Or they can double down and watch their entire careers go down the drain.  It's a said day to watch this happen to some.  I bet Biden will be one of those fighting the re-opening, and then loose even worse because of it.  Now he'll lie throw his teeth, like he does with everything else, but I dont think he'll be able to get around it. 

There was a protest in Raleigh, NC earlier this week.  The police broke it up because "protesting is a non-essential activity."  Sad day for freedoms in the country. 

[faberryman]

Les, Trump also was never a politician until he became president.  Yet Canadians here mercilessly attack him for four years for what he did in civilian life beforehand.  So it's fair play to attack Trudeau as well, especially since his father was in politics as PM.  He should have known better.  After all, he was a 29 year-old teacher the third time he did the black face routine.  And he claims he really doesn't remember all the times he did it.  How can a people elect a child like that as their leader?  Don't Canadians have any pride?

Yes, poor Trump. The Canadians are mercilessly attacking him. Even if true, who cares? Don't you have something better to worry about.

[Paulo Bizarro]

We can start by him banning certain flights. We can add in working to make supplies that the States had failed to stockpile themselves available and delivering them.  We can look to his 15 day guidelines which surely saved lives. 

So yea he did do a swell job. 

Yea, lots of people are to blame for this virus getting out of China and into the world.  The WHO screwed up bigly.  The CDC screwed up bigly.  And Govenors screwed up as well..from both parties.  And somehoiw this is Trumps fault?

You are lost in the fog.  Like I said, put the bears down....

It was really funny and efficient when he banned flights from the EU but not from the UK.

Also funny he believes the Easter bunny and said he was going to reopen by Easter.

He keeps shifting his responsibility to different targets; China, press reporters, WHO, China again, WHO again, press again. Behaving like a child is ok, unless you are president and have roles and responsibilites.

[JoeKitchen]

Not just FL. There is no correlation between the speed of lockdown and the number of deaths anywhere in the US.

https://medium.com/@yinonweiss/lets-visualize-state-by-state-shutdown-effectiveness-on-covid-19-e13a5cdb50ad

All the more reason to get back to work!

But I am sure the left will find some reason they should these experts while shouting to us that we need to pay attention to all the experts. 

[LesPalenik]

Les, Trump also was never a politician until he became president.  Yet Canadians here mercilessly attack him for four years for what he did in civilian life beforehand.  So it's fair play to attack Trudeau as well, especially since his father was in politics as PM.  He should have known better.  After all, he was a 29 year-old teacher the third time he did the black face routine.  And he claims he really doesn't remember all the times he did it.  How can a people elect a child like that as their leader?  Don't Canadians have any pride? 

Trudeau says he can't recall how many times he wore blackface makeup
The latest images came in a short, undated video clip published by Global News in which, Trudeau – his face, arms and legs painted black – waves at the camera and sticks his tongue out. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/19/justin-trudeau-wearing-blackface-details-emerge-third-incident

Still, the face painting was silly and insignificant act. Instead of harping on that you should send him your suggestions not to increase deficit and avoid printing of more money.

[armand]

Not just FL. There is no correlation between the speed of lockdown and the number of deaths anywhere in the US.

https://medium.com/@yinonweiss/lets-visualize-state-by-state-shutdown-effectiveness-on-covid-19-e13a5cdb50ad

Whenever an analysis is posted online without being a reputable source/peer reviewed I would start with one question: Cui prodest?
Sometimes we want to make simple things than cannot be, in this case the interactions. If you read the comments there are some good points there, at least one about the incomplete analysis and another one about human behavior, maybe those stay-at-home orders didn't impact that much the actual behavior, in most places wasn't really enforced in the beginning.