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armand

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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #3240 on: April 30, 2020, 01:58:19 pm »

Some of the new findings about this virus are possible neurological effects and muscle injuries. Doctors are seeing patients who are experiencing symptoms like seizures, hallucinations and loss of smell and taste. In severe cases, the virus may enter the brain through the olfactory nerve in the nasal cavity and damage neurons that control breathing and thus lead to death.

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/lorna-breen-family-on-covid-19-death_n_5eaad3e7c5b634687cb42e4a?ri18n=true

Influenza can cause also various less common symptoms, for example a few years ago I had a 20+ yo patient with influenza meningitis. Rhabdomyolysis (muscle injury) is not that uncommon with flu either.

The issue is how common and how severe these manifestations are, along with how prevalent the disease is.
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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #3241 on: April 30, 2020, 02:31:06 pm »

If something really bad comes out,  Biden may be out and replaced by someone more challenging to Trump.  Watch what you pray for.  :)

Like that could happen. Bozo the Clown would be preferable. 8-)
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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #3242 on: April 30, 2020, 03:13:56 pm »

Yes, they are both viruses

Of the same Coronavirus family.

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« Reply #3243 on: April 30, 2020, 03:21:38 pm »

Of the same Coronavirus family.

What does this imply? There are many cancers out there...same family, but some are almost always deadly and others you can live your whole life with.
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« Reply #3244 on: April 30, 2020, 03:38:34 pm »

Of the same Coronavirus family.

Are you sure?

Link please.
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« Reply #3246 on: April 30, 2020, 04:09:46 pm »

I am pretty sure this discussion turns on the meanings of "like" and "just like", and how close those are to "exactly like". You may just want to skip it.
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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #3248 on: April 30, 2020, 04:35:27 pm »

No mention of flu there. As far as I know, flu is not caused by a coronavirus.
You can't trust information from the WHO. The WHO is controlled by the Chinese, and any information on its website is Chinese propaganda. The Chinese are doing everything they can to prevent the re-election of Trump. Trump said so so it must be true.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/30/trump-says-china-doing-anything-they-can-make-him-/
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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #3249 on: April 30, 2020, 04:48:29 pm »

No mention of flu there. As far as I know, flu is not caused by a coronavirus.

You are right. Thanks for pointing out.

I erroneously assumed that the formulation "ranging from" ("Coronaviruses are a large family of viruses that are known to cause illness ranging from the common cold to more severe diseases...) includes the regular flu somewhere in between the mild forms (cold) to the more severe ones.


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« Reply #3250 on: April 30, 2020, 05:35:47 pm »

The Chinese are doing everything they can to prevent the re-election of Trump. Trump said so so it must be true.


I'm pretty sure tht the Chinese are satisfied with Mr Trump and his performance.
They think in long terms.
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« Reply #3252 on: April 30, 2020, 07:30:56 pm »

Annnnnnnnd what about Sweden now? 

WHO: Sweden, which avoided mass coronavirus lockdowns, should be 'model' for the world

“I think if we are to reach a new normal, I think in many ways Sweden represents a future model of -- if we wish to get back to a society in which we don’t have lockdowns," Dr. Mike Ryan said while speaking to reporters from Geneva.

Nice to see WHO finally coming around.  Typically, as shown with China, they are 6 weeks behind again. 
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« Reply #3253 on: April 30, 2020, 07:53:45 pm »

Annnnnnnnd what about Sweden now? 

WHO: Sweden, which avoided mass coronavirus lockdowns, should be 'model' for the world

“I think if we are to reach a new normal, I think in many ways Sweden represents a future model of -- if we wish to get back to a society in which we don’t have lockdowns," Dr. Mike Ryan said while speaking to reporters from Geneva.

Nice to see WHO finally coming around.  Typically, as shown with China, they are 6 weeks behind again.

WHO...I thought they were corrupt and in the back pockets of China. Amazing how things change when something is in agreement with your views.
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« Reply #3254 on: April 30, 2020, 08:30:52 pm »

WHO...I thought they were corrupt and in the back pockets of China. Amazing how things change when something is in agreement with your views.

They are, but all the liberals keep on holding them up as the gold standard.  Finally good to see you libs come around to the right conclusion.  As usual, it took you guys a little too long for comfort though. 
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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #3255 on: April 30, 2020, 08:44:54 pm »

How many articles are published a day from a single source today? 

But I'll repeat myself, the majority of the stories were downplaying it, and this has been shown repeatably.  Not t mention every Dem downplayed it too and admonished Trump for shutting down travel, including Biden.   

Joe,

Your constant attempts to rewrite history against all the available facts are simply ridiculous.

But at least it does confirm that you finally agree with the view that Trump did downplay the pandemic.

Regards,
Bernard

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« Reply #3256 on: April 30, 2020, 08:45:54 pm »

They are, but all the liberals keep on holding them up as the gold standard.  Finally good to see you libs come around to the right conclusion.  As usual, it took you guys a little too long for comfort though.

Sorry...you got me confused with someone else. I don't hold anyone up as a gold standard...but I do look at all information with an open mind.

Now you...you are a hypocrite, blasting the WHO when it doesn't agree with your biased views...and then hold them up and say "SEE" what the WHO says about Sweden's approach when it meets your bias views.
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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #3257 on: April 30, 2020, 08:53:04 pm »

Annnnnnnnd what about Sweden now? 

WHO: Sweden, which avoided mass coronavirus lockdowns, should be 'model' for the world

“I think if we are to reach a new normal, I think in many ways Sweden represents a future model of -- if we wish to get back to a society in which we don’t have lockdowns," Dr. Mike Ryan said while speaking to reporters from Geneva.

Nice to see WHO finally coming around.  Typically, as shown with China, they are 6 weeks behind again.

Lots of ifs to start with. Second, it has yet to become clear that its model is superior. Third, if you think the Sweden model would work in US, considering the freedom at all cost and who cares about the others if my risk is low, I have many things to sell you.

And last, the correct statement would be for a similar pandemic. I doubt they will be so cavalier with other diseases with significantly higher mortality.
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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #3258 on: April 30, 2020, 09:53:22 pm »

Annnnnnnnd what about Sweden now? 

WHO: Sweden, which avoided mass coronavirus lockdowns, should be 'model' for the world

“I think if we are to reach a new normal, I think in many ways Sweden represents a future model of -- if we wish to get back to a society in which we don’t have lockdowns," Dr. Mike Ryan said while speaking to reporters from Geneva.

Nice to see WHO finally coming around.  Typically, as shown with China, they are 6 weeks behind again.


The whole Sweden thing baffles me. They currently (according to the Worldometer statistics site) have 21,092 confirmed cases of the corona virus, and 2,586 deaths. That's 12.2 %. The US has 1,095,0234 confirmed cases, and 63,856 deaths -- about 5.8%. It appears to me that Sweden just decided to let its old people die, which is a pretty harsh decision. The death rate is far, far lower in the other three Scandinavian countries, and this herd immunity thing is not exactly happening in Sweden. Even if they have 50 times the number of people infected as the confirmed number, that would be less than 10 percent of their population. They need something like 60-70 percent before they even start to get herd immunity. And they probably don't have 50 times the confirmed number, because they seem proud of their testing program. I think Sweden royally screwed the pooch, and now they're all doing the bureaucratic dance to try to convince people otherwise, even in the face of the numbers.

The US deaths are now higher than the worst flu season in the past ten years, and it took about a month and a half to get there.
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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #3259 on: April 30, 2020, 10:40:15 pm »

this herd immunity thing is not exactly happening in Sweden.
Back in mid March our Oz government was advocating herd immunity. Two weeks later they said that it doesn't work. If you contact someone with the virus it will spread rapidly and the only process was social distancing, which is what we have done since.
Herd immunity is like the Cliff Clavin Buffalo Theory.
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