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Re: On Printing and Paper Part 1 – overview, history and definitions.
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2020, 10:02:17 am »

What a brilliant article. Fascinating, informative and amusing. Thank you!
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Re: On Printing and Paper Part 1 – overview, history and definitions.
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2020, 10:33:21 am »

What a brilliant article. Fascinating, informative and amusing. Thank you!

Delighted that you enjoyed it! Dan is a great writer. There is a part 2, follow up, coming shortly.
 
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Re: On Printing and Paper Part 1 – overview, history and definitions.
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2020, 09:39:04 am »

In the book 'A History of Pictures' by David Hockney and Martin Gayford, there is a discussion of the painting 'The Art of Painting' by Johannes Vermeer in the 17th century.  David Hockney makes the following comment,
'But colour photography couldn't get tones like those (in the painting) as it has to rely on dyes and printing ink.  Those aren't like paint, and never will be.  You wouldn't be able to get all those blacks with colour photography, or the differnent blues, which are stunning and subtle in that painting.'

He does not mention pigment inks, but of course printing does not use oil as for the painting.

Any views on his opinion of colour rendition in printed images?  The book was first published in the UK in 2016.

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Re: On Printing and Paper Part 1 – overview, history and definitions.
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2020, 09:37:51 am »

I quite enjoyed your article and I'm looking forward to part II.
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Re: On Printing and Paper Part 1 – overview, history and definitions.
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2020, 12:42:27 pm »

I really enjoy printing on my Epson SC P800.

I use several of the papers Dan mentions. 

I also find a number of papers from Red River that are equally good and perhaps a bit less expensive. 

One advantage of RR is that they offer 17x38 paper for my panos printed on my P800.  I've just started using their 66 lb Palo Duro Smooth Rag and its a great substitute for Epson Legacy Fibre. 

RR also offers paper that can be printed on both sides. 
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Re: On Printing and Paper Part 1 – overview, history and definitions.
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2020, 02:08:52 pm »

I like the introductional articles by Dan Wells;
For a long term visitor of Lula like myself there is not much new information, given the wide attention in the past to printers, papers and the printing process given by Michael Reichman and Jeff Schewe.
I understand Dan Well writes his essays with first hands knowledge about the papers and printers he uses and i can appreciate that. It is just that i wanted to add some information to make his article more complete.
Because of the introductional aspects of the articles I missed mentioning of the HP Z3100 printer, introduced in late 2006.
It is the one I have since 2007 and still runs perfectly.
The HP Z3100 was the first large format printer with built-in spectrophotometer and Gloss Enhancer (GE).
It can eliminate metamerism thanks to the introduction of a 12th ink, a gloss-ink (GE) and can automatically built its own ICC-profile of any paper based on the specific printer settings.
The whole process takes about 30 minutes depending on the amount of patches- from  400...1728 and more.
In part two about papers two manufacturers are mentioned; the USA based Moab and the French Canson-infinity.  I missed mentioning of the name the quality German paper maker Hahnemühle.
The paper of Hahnemühle is very well known for its quality and used widely in the print-art world.
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I just finished reading Part IV.  Good grief.

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Re: On Printing and Paper Part 1 – overview, history and definitions.
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2020, 04:51:04 pm »

I just finished reading Part IV.  Good grief.

Rand

Meaning what? 
I liked the comparison between dxo, LRcc and C1.
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Re: On Printing and Paper Part 1 – overview, history and definitions.
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2020, 08:46:23 am »

Meaning what?  . . .

Pedantic. Obvious bias masquerading as objectivity.  Verbose.  Clumsily written.  For starters.

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