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« Reply #60 on: February 25, 2020, 04:54:06 am »

1. Do you have open borders and give all illegals aliens the same rights & coverages (including health coverages) as citizens regardless if they pay taxes?  Bernie is calling for this. 

2. Do you have free college and are willing to give free college to even illegal aliens?  Bernie is calling for this. 

3. Have you completely eliminated your immigration enforcement?  Bernie is calling for this. 

4. Do you require all companies (public & private) to have a minimum of 50% of the board to be of workers in the companies?  Bernie is calling this. 

5. Does you post office provide loans even if they have no one experience in banking working there?  Bernie is calling for this. 

6. Do you tax a person based on their wealth, not just salary?  Bernie is calling for this. 

7. He is calling for all of this and a lot of other crazy far left wing policies.  So, considering your post, you really have no idea what is going on and what he is pushing for over here.  He is a straight up communist.

1. Between member countries, the EEC does.  We do, largely, conform with international rights for refugees;

2. mixture of both, depending on level and countr. Illegal aliens would first have to sell their spaceship in order to prove allegiance. As they have no hearts, obviously they wouldn't have to place their hand over it as they pledge;

3. again, depends on who is travelling and from where;

4. not yet; it is often raised as a possible action. A side-benefit would be that employees suddenly become aware on which side of their bread lies the butter: strikes would cost them dear;

5. the Spanish post office is a big investor in construction etc. whereas some banks waste money (that they won't give as interest) on sponsoring various sports. Why they do that instead of helping their customers have a better lifestyle is something that's surprising. Was a time I could live well on pension and interest without touching capital - long gone, I'm afraid;

6. taxed on both, again depending who you are, what you have and where you live; inheritance tax gets you in the end, however you describe it;

7. one man's communist is another man's radical.

I would suggest that in America, the word communist means something far different to what it means in many other countries. I can't think of another place that has had the purges that the US has had, both against the movie industry as against the writing trade. It strikes me that you condemn bookburners so fiercely because you have often been so damned good at it.

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« Reply #61 on: February 25, 2020, 05:11:06 am »

Time for a sequel, Rob.

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« Reply #62 on: February 25, 2020, 05:20:57 am »

Time for a sequel, Rob.

Gimme a break, Slobodan; it's ten past eleven and I have yet to make my bed, do my teeth etc. in order to be ready and able to leave the house and go out to face the world!

(I realise I wrote house when the reality today is apartment. How blindly one goes through life. We bought this place as a first step, just to see if I could keep the business alive from abroad. By the time we decided to remain, hesitation and inflation had removed the once easy option of upgrading to a villa. How I miss my own driveway.)

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« Reply #63 on: February 25, 2020, 05:25:33 am »

You see, Rob, when you realized you have commies in the government, it was way too late. The damage was already done, plus they already fled to the Mother Russia. We prefer prevention.

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« Reply #64 on: February 25, 2020, 05:40:57 am »

You see, Rob, when you realized you have commies in the government, it was way too late. The damage was already done, plus they already fled to the Mother Russia. We prefer prevention.
You mean the two GRU agents who tried to affect lives of their compatriots in Salisbury?
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« Reply #65 on: February 25, 2020, 06:09:20 am »

You mean the two GRU agents who tried to affect lives of their compatriots in Salisbury?

I know you know who I have in mind, but for the rest: Kim Philby and the Cambridge Five.

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Re: Bernie defends Castro
« Reply #66 on: February 25, 2020, 06:35:34 am »

Life is good in Cuba - plenty of choice - young or old, you can take a nap horizontally or vertically:

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« Reply #67 on: February 25, 2020, 08:45:08 am »

I know you know who I have in mind, but for the rest: Kim Philby and the Cambridge Five.

But we got to them.

Education often breeds leftist thought. It's a product of feeling for fellow man, of knowing something about the huge and needless levels of difference in earnings and, crucially, the amount of it you can keep (again, think of my poor, deprived, fifty-million dollar man at the same time as you think of the bundle of humanity in a blanket under the next bridge; and no, it is not always his own fault), and all sorts of other cerebral things that make communism superficially attractive become clear.

There's the cynical saying to the effect that if you are not a socialist as twenty, then there is something wrong with you, and if you are one at forty, there's definitely something wrong with you. Such sayings depend for their veracity upon the experience and mindset of the person who invents them; they do not, of themselves, express divine law.

As with much in life, a half-way measure is often the only sensible solution, though that is always at risk of being labelled lukewarm, tepid and neither fish nor fowl. Which of course, is how extremists in the shape of your guy and the one who stole my party managed their con: vast numbers of people have become conditioned to being too stupid/lazy to think clearly, and are capable today of reacting only on emotional levels. That's why all politicos pay so very much attention to mindless arenas such as Twitter and Facebook; with a bedmate as he has, why else would Trump spend all night on his computer trying to write? That he can't, but still gets so much attention and so many besotted followers, tells you all you neeed to know.

I'll stop there for now.

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« Reply #68 on: February 25, 2020, 09:08:11 am »

... things that make communism superficially attractive...

I can understand why it looked attractive before being tested, but 100 years since then??? With plenty of historical evidence and personal experience of millions of people and millions of victims???

The current young generation wasn't even born when the Berlin Wall fell, of course they have no clue what communism is. Being educated by the same bunch who never experienced it themselves, living in the academic ivory towers.

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« Reply #69 on: February 25, 2020, 09:10:44 am »

... There's the cynical saying to the effect that if you are not a socialist as twenty, then there is something wrong with you, and if you are one at forty, there's definitely something wrong with you..

Well, the actual saying is: if you are not a socialist before 30, you have no heart. If you are still a socialist after, you have no brain.

As I noted before, you seem to be getting younger and younger by the day, like Benjamin Button ;)

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« Reply #70 on: February 25, 2020, 09:16:39 am »

To dispel the misunderstandings built into socialism you need to study two things: history and economics. If you really want to understand how capitalism works to the benefit of everyone, read Adam Smith's The Wealth of Nations. Yeah, it can be a tough slog because of changes in the language. If you want the same thing in shorter but less complete form, read Thomas Sowell's Basic Economics.

Regarding Rob's comment: Churchill supposedly said: "If you are not a liberal at twenty, you have no heart. If you are not a conservative at forty, you have no brain." If he said it, he actually was misquoting John Adams, who said: "'If my son is not a liberal when he is twenty, I will disown him; if he is not a conservative when he is forty, I will disown him then."

For those on the left: What this saying means is that as you age you usually become more informed; perhaps even wiser. But as adequately demonstrated in The Coffee Corner, that's not always true.
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« Reply #71 on: February 25, 2020, 10:06:33 am »

Democrats are finally getting worried about Sanders. They're starting to justify a brokered convention.  Trump's right.  They'll screw Bernie again.  It's one thing for them to push socialism.  But now a dedicated Bolshevik might win and take their rich salaries and money away as well as their power.   Sweet justice. 

Bloomberg internal poll claims Bernie would sink downballot Dems
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/25/bloomberg-internal-poll-claims-bernie-would-hurt-downballot-dems-117290

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« Reply #72 on: February 25, 2020, 12:30:51 pm »

To dispel the misunderstandings built into socialism you need to study two things: history and economics. If you really want to understand how capitalism works to the benefit of everyone, read Adam Smith's The Wealth of Nations. Yeah, it can be a tough slog because of changes in the language. If you want the same thing in shorter but less complete form, read Thomas Sowell's Basic Economics.

Regarding Rob's comment: Churchill supposedly said: "If you are not a liberal at twenty, you have no heart. If you are not a conservative at forty, you have no brain." If he said it, he actually was misquoting John Adams, who said: "'If my son is not a liberal when he is twenty, I will disown him; if he is not a conservative when he is forty, I will disown him then."

For those on the left: What this saying means is that as you age you usually become more informed; perhaps even wiser. But as adequately demonstrated in The Coffee Corner, that's not always true.

I guess they said it when they were 95
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« Reply #73 on: February 25, 2020, 01:31:22 pm »

Well, the actual saying is: if you are not a socialist before 30, you have no heart. If you are still a socialist after, you have no brain.

As I noted before, you seem to be getting younger and younger by the day, like Benjamin Button ;)


Close enough; not gonna argue.

But who is this Benjamin Button of whom you seem so fond?

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« Reply #74 on: February 25, 2020, 02:22:27 pm »

But we got to them.

Education often breeds leftist thought. It's a product of feeling for fellow man, of knowing something about the huge and needless levels of difference in earnings and, crucially, the amount of it you can keep (again, think of my poor, deprived, fifty-million dollar man at the same time as you think of the bundle of humanity in a blanket under the next bridge; and no, it is not always his own fault), and all sorts of other cerebral things that make communism superficially attractive become clear.

There's the cynical saying to the effect that if you are not a socialist as twenty, then there is something wrong with you, and if you are one at forty, there's definitely something wrong with you. Such sayings depend for their veracity upon the experience and mindset of the person who invents them; they do not, of themselves, express divine law.

As with much in life, a half-way measure is often the only sensible solution, though that is always at risk of being labelled lukewarm, tepid and neither fish nor fowl. Which of course, is how extremists in the shape of your guy and the one who stole my party managed their con: vast numbers of people have become conditioned to being too stupid/lazy to think clearly, and are capable today of reacting only on emotional levels. That's why all politicos pay so very much attention to mindless arenas such as Twitter and Facebook; with a bedmate as he has, why else would Trump spend all night on his computer trying to write? That he can't, but still gets so much attention and so many besotted followers, tells you all you neeed to know.

I'll stop there for now.

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Well, the actual saying is: if you are not a socialist before 30, you have no heart. If you are still a socialist after, you have no brain.

As I noted before, you seem to be getting younger and younger by the day, like Benjamin Button ;)




Close enough; not gonna argue.

But who is this Benjamin Button of whom you seem so fond?

Rob

Puts me in mind of another facile cliché: There's no fool like an old fool.

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« Reply #75 on: February 25, 2020, 02:45:30 pm »

But who is this Benjamin Button of whom you seem so fond?
Benjamin Button is the protagonist is a story titled The Curious Case of Benjamin Button by the American writer F. Scott Fitzgerald. He ages in reverse. The story was made into a movie in 2008 starring Brad Pitt.
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« Reply #76 on: February 25, 2020, 03:01:35 pm »

Benjamin Button is the protagonist is a story titled The Curious Case of Benjamin Button by the American writer F. Scott Fitzgerald. He ages in reverse. The story was made into a movie in 2008 starring Brad Pitt.


Oh well, if I end up like a younger Brad Pitt, then that must be a positive! Thanks.

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« Reply #77 on: February 25, 2020, 09:59:35 pm »

Not once, not twice, but now a third time in one week during the debate Sanders praises Fidel.  Says he is echoing Obama.  (Let’s be real, we can agree on that last part.)
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« Reply #78 on: February 26, 2020, 12:48:37 am »

Not once, not twice, but now a third time in one week during the debate Sanders praises Fidel.  Says he is echoing Obama.  (Let’s be real, we can agree on that last part.)
Sanders keep telling everyone he's a commie.  For decades. No one wants to believe him.  They will if he becomes president. 

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« Reply #79 on: February 26, 2020, 02:59:41 am »

Oh well, if I end up like a younger Brad Pitt...

More likely, the way your are aging in reverse, you’ll soon end up back in 1968, as a student activist in Paris, throwing Molotov’s cocktails at the police  ;)
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