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Dinarius

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X-Rite ColorChecker ICC Profiles and LR...?
« on: December 02, 2019, 08:55:29 am »

Problems with the X-Rite ColorChecker ICC profiling software and CaptureOne have been well documented.

I don't have LR. So, I'm wondering how the X-Rite software works with it.

Is it any better than on C1?

Thanks.

D.
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Re: X-Rite ColorChecker ICC Profiles and LR...?
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2019, 10:04:28 am »

I have used it for three different Nikon cameras and on both stand alone LR 6 as well as the subscription version LR.  I have had no problems installing the plugin or creating camera profiles.  I assume this is the question you are asking.
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Re: X-Rite ColorChecker ICC Profiles and LR...?
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2019, 10:53:07 am »

LR doesn't deal with camera ICC profiles whatsoever. It deals with .DCP profiles wonderfully. And it deals with printer profiles just fine.

Everything you thought you wanted to know about DNG/DCP camera profiles:
All about In this 30 minute video, we will look into the creation and use of DNG (.dcp) camera profiles in three raw converters. The video covers:
What are DNG camera profiles, how do they differ from ICC camera profiles.
Misconceptions about DNG camera profiles.
Just when, and why do you need to build custom DNG camera profiles?
How to build custom DNG camera profiles using the X-rite Passport software.
The role of various illuminants on camera sensors and DNG camera profiles.
Dual Illuminant DNG camera profiles.
Examples of usage of DNG camera profiles in Lightroom, ACR, and Iridient Developer.
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Re: X-Rite ColorChecker ICC Profiles and LR...?
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2019, 11:01:41 am »

Andrew,

Just to be clear...

Are you saying that what I can do with Capture One and X-Rite's camera profiling app, albeit it doesn't work properly coz the blacks are blah, I can't do with LR?

Or is it that I can do it, but I have to do so via DNG?

Many thanks.

D.
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Re: X-Rite ColorChecker ICC Profiles and LR...?
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2019, 11:05:07 am »

Andrew,

Just to be clear...

Are you saying that what I can do with Capture One and X-Rite's camera profiling app, albeit it doesn't work properly coz the blacks are blah, I can't do with LR?

Or is it that I can do it, but I have to do so via DNG?

Many thanks.

D.


You asked about ColorChecker and profiles. The ones you can build with that target are .DCP camera profiles used in Lightroom (and converters that support that kind of profile). But you CANNOT use ICC camera profiles made from the X-rite target in LR. LR and ACR do not support, for many good reasons, ICC camera profiles.
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Re: X-Rite ColorChecker ICC Profiles and LR...?
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2019, 08:48:13 pm »

Capture One is actually horrible with camera profiles. ICC, from what I've learned, is older color management compared to DCP -- specifically for digital cameras. I've used ColorChecker for years with Lightroom and have profiled every camera I've owned or used since the Canon 1D Mark II and the 1Ds. It makes a world of difference having DCP profiles to work with. It's seamless and easy to create the profiles for LR. I have asked Phase One to consider utilizing DCP profiles instead or in conjunction (not that they would listen to me). Every time I've created a custom camera profile for use in Capture One, it's been an ugly disaster and unusable (most recently with my EOS R).

I know this doesn't really help, but it's interesting that DxO allows you to use DCP files or ICC files for cameras.
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