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dgberg

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Glamor II lack of durability
« on: November 29, 2019, 06:45:59 am »

Been spraying Glamor II for 10 years with minimal problems. Have always had ink come off a little with light abrasion but it has gotten worse, much worse.
A professional sprayer for my cabinetry business with the best Binks equipment for 25 years so I don't think it is application issues.
I have to put a soft velour blanket over my carpet covered wrapping area or it will rub through the finish to the ink so easily just attaching the hanging wire.
The mixture is by the book, typically 20 to 25% water to get the viscosity just right for spraying. Breathing Color says do not exceed 30%
The only factor I can think it may be is my room temperature in the shop is 60-64. I have had the same issue even in the summer when the temps are 75 to 85.
I talked to Breathing Color about 5 years ago and we went over just about anything it could be. The final response was pretty much if you are not happy with it to try Timeless.
I spray a light coat of gloss, let flash dry for 15 minutes then put the final coat on a little heavier. Even adding a third coat is no better. A light scratch with a fingernail and you go right through the ink.
Plan to call BC again Monday. Something is wrong.

Canvas is Lexjet Sunset Reserve Bright Matte
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Re: Glamor II lack of durability
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2019, 08:14:27 am »

Have you tried Timeless or Eco Print Shield to see if there's any difference?
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Re: Glamor II lack of durability
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2019, 08:29:57 am »

I tried several gallons of Timeless when it came out and do not remember the results. I do remember how expensive it was. For the amount I use the cost was substantial.
I am at the point now where cost has to be second. Cannot have all these canvas go out as fragile as they are. No one takes care of this better then I do. I see clients slide them on the floor plus all kinds of other abuse.
I have not given much thought to it not being compatible with the Lexjet canvas. I will call them too.

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Re: Glamor II lack of durability
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2019, 08:53:57 am »

I tried several gallons of Timeless when it came out and do not remember the results. I do remember how expensive it was. For the amount I use the cost was substantial.
I am at the point now where cost has to be second. Cannot have all these canvas go out as fragile as they are. No one takes care of this better then I do. I see clients slide them on the floor plus all kinds of other abuse.
I have not given much thought to it not being compatible with the Lexjet canvas. I will call them too.

Hi Dan,

How about the humidity levels in your shop? I'm a Painter and I keep humidity levels close through out the year. Helps with all kinds of materials.

Peter

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Re: Glamor II lack of durability
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2019, 08:58:49 am »

I have a humidifier and keep it going from Oct. through Apr. at 45% or above.

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Re: Glamor II lack of durability
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2019, 10:24:13 am »

I initially tried Timeless, but not having a spray setup I used a roller instead and got streaks so I switched to Eco which recommends three thin coats vs one thick coat. How many coats do you use on your canvases?
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Re: Glamor II lack of durability
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2019, 11:40:57 am »

2 most times on the lighter side. They dry much better that way too.
When I want a higher sheen I add a third light coat.

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Re: Glamor II lack of durability
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2019, 07:14:07 pm »

Iíve been using Timeless on HP Pro Matte Canvas for years, and have had no problems with flaking or peeling. I spray 10 light coats of Timeless with a cheap Wagner paint sprayer, one right after the other.

When wrapping the piece I use a piece of polar fleece blanket to work on, as I found that my framing carpet would sometimes slightly darken the front edges of the wrap where there are bright colors in the print. This would happen when I rotated the piece while working on the back side. The fleece blanket solved that problem.

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