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300 images Ė 5 stock agencies - letís see how they do
« on: November 04, 2019, 11:23:58 am »

As Iíve written on another board, Iíve stepped up to Adobeís CC Photography Plan. My goal now is to have 300 images accepted on Adobe Stock by yearís end, which, according to Adobe, converts to the Photography Plan free for 12 months.

So, Iím turning this into a little experiment. My goal (time permitting) is to get the 300 images accepted, but not just to Adobe Stock; I will upload the same images to Alamy, ShutterStock, EyeEm and Getty as well, then Iíll track their performance over the next year to see how they do.

Iíve dabbled in stock over the years and have sold images from my website as well. Iíve never made a lot as Iíve not kept up with submitting images on a regular basis. So this will be a good test for me, my photographs and Ďthe systemí.

Some may see this as throwing away hundreds of images for pennies on the dollar. The way I see it is this: I have tens of thousands of image files, maybe a few thousand of which have some marketing potential. But, they are doing nothing for me sitting on a hard drive. I may as well get something for them.

Weíll see. Wish me luck!

Edit: I just read the post about Getty and ďfeeding the monsterĒ. Hmmmm. Not feeding the monster will not starve it. I have images that have some potential. Leaving them on a hard drive wonít get them sold. And waiting for someone to Ďdiscover my artí? Letís just say, I wonít hold my breath.
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Re: 300 images Ė 5 stock agencies - letís see how they do
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2019, 12:38:36 pm »

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Re: 300 images Ė 5 stock agencies - letís see how they do
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2019, 01:32:28 pm »

Good luck!
And next week you can tell us in detail how you got your 300 accepted.   ;)
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Re: 300 images Ė 5 stock agencies - letís see how they do
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2019, 05:35:22 pm »

Indeed, good luck!

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Re: 300 images Ė 5 stock agencies - letís see how they do
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2019, 07:07:26 pm »

Ha-Ha, Eric! It may take me a thousand to have 300 accepted! Thatís why I was careful to say, ďtime permittingĒ. It takes a few minutes to properly set up each photo, so weíll see how far I get Between now and 31 Dec!
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Re: 300 images Ė 5 stock agencies - letís see how they do
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2019, 03:15:01 pm »

Actually, most of those agencies accept now pretty much anything. The more images submitted, the merrier.
300 images used to be a good test portfolio in the days when a stock agency had 3-5 million images in total. Today some agencies have in excess of 250 million images and are adding 1 million every week, so you'll need a few thousand images to notice any action. Of course, the image quality and uniqueness are important criteria for a sale potential, but it's hard to fight the sheer quantity when even great images get instantly buried in the sea of mediocre photographs.

   

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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2019, 04:07:03 pm »

Getty Images is phasing out rights-managed 'creative images' in favour of royalty free content.

https://www.dpreview.com/news/0475276807/getty-is-phasing-out-rights-managed-photos-in-favor-of-royalty-free-content
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Re: 300 images Ė 5 stock agencies - letís see how they do
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2019, 09:41:36 pm »

Good luck on your experiment.  How do you limit re-sale of a particular picture where the buyer wants an exclusive?  After all, you have submitted the same picture to more than one distributor.

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« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2019, 12:21:33 am »

Good luck on your experiment.  How do you limit re-sale of a particular picture where the buyer wants an exclusive?  After all, you have submitted the same picture to more than one distributor.

Limiting re-sale of a particular image applies only to rights-managed method. To some extent with a possibility to track individual purchases also to exclusive images with just one agency. Sometimes, a prospective customer will offer to buy all rights (including RAW file) to an image outright even if it was originally published on a royalty-free site with prior sales.

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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2019, 09:16:42 am »

Limiting re-sale of a particular image applies only to rights-managed method. To some extent with a possibility to track individual purchases also to exclusive images with just one agency. Sometimes, a prospective customer will offer to buy all rights (including RAW file) to an image outright even if it was originally published on a royalty-free site with prior sales.

So how is that done when there are multi agency particularly?

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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2019, 05:55:35 am »

So how is that done when there are multi agency particularly?

When you decide to send your images to multiple agencies, you essentially give up image usage tracking / licensing.

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Re: 300 images Ė 5 stock agencies - letís see how they do
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2019, 07:48:54 am »

It's a good experiment for sure. You don't have anything to lose except time. I've been a hobby stock contributor since 2009, and haven't noticed huge peaks and valleys except with Dreamstime and iStock, which for me are essentially vestigial at this point. The biggest sea change came from video submissions. stock income went from just supporting my lensrentals habit to more serious money. Adobe's subscription giveaway is honestly the best reason to start now; it's worth $600, and they're very prompt about sending the voucher. Adobe and Shutterstock are the runaway earners for me. Assuming you're doing all your file prep in your DAM, give Depositphotos and 123RF a shot too.

Good luck with it!
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Re: 300 images – 5 stock agencies - let’s see how they do
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2019, 06:54:22 pm »

Adding three hundred images to five stock sites and measuring performance over a year will not produce meaningful results. 

Uploading regularly and having a few of your images that sell every day/week is the key to feeding the algorithm.

I'm pleased with my performance over the last five years.  The first five years were poor.  I have 6,500 images online and surprisingly one single image generates 11% of my total income.
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Re: 300 images Ė 5 stock agencies - letís see how they do
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2020, 03:54:55 pm »

I have 6,500 images online and surprisingly one single image generates 11% of my total income.
When you first posted it, did you have any idea that it would do so well?
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« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2020, 05:37:48 pm »

Sort of knew it was a strong image but surprised it sold over 3,200 times across three agencies.  I don't like to post too much about images or strategies as there so many people ripping off ideas from forums.

Regular uploads, at least once per week with around 50 images fully keyworded and captioned.  I had software developed by a friend for keywording that really helps.  The keywords, captions and metadata are crucial to selling, simply making it easy for images to be found.  A lot of stock contributors do not give much thought to how an image may be used in regards to copy-space and cropping.  I often submit two or three images of the same subject with different cropping/copy-space.

I have recently started uploading video clips and early results have been positive.  The royalties from video clips is much higher than stills with an average of around $50.
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« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2020, 05:37:52 pm »

Adding three hundred images to five stock sites and measuring performance over a year will not produce meaningful results. 

Uploading regularly and having a few of your images that sell every day/week is the key to feeding the algorithm.

I'm pleased with my performance over the last five years.  The first five years were poor.  I have 6,500 images online and surprisingly one single image generates 11% of my total income.
Do you have to keep adding photos because the "old" ones get played out?

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« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2020, 05:44:26 pm »

Do you have to keep adding photos because the "old" ones get played out?

Its not so much getting played out but everything to do with the algorithm.  Agencies want to have regular contributors who sell well and the reward is featuring high in the search results.  I have had images sell the same day of being approved which also gives a clue on how the algorithm rates fresh content from an active contributor.
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« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2020, 09:23:37 pm »

Very helpful perspective and advice. Much appreciated.

Sort of knew it was a strong image but surprised it sold over 3,200 times across three agencies.  I don't like to post too much about images or strategies as there so many people ripping off ideas from forums.

Regular uploads, at least once per week with around 50 images fully keyworded and captioned.  I had software developed by a friend for keywording that really helps.  The keywords, captions and metadata are crucial to selling, simply making it easy for images to be found.  A lot of stock contributors do not give much thought to how an image may be used in regards to copy-space and cropping.  I often submit two or three images of the same subject with different cropping/copy-space.

I have recently started uploading video clips and early results have been positive.  The royalties from video clips is much higher than stills with an average of around $50.
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