Impeaching Donald Trump

[PeterAit]

What is the source of your "real" news? How did you determine that it was "real"?

"Real news" is what agrees with what he has already decided must be true. "Fake news" is anything that challenges his pre-determined beliefs.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

The real news:

https://www.instagram.com/tv/B56l5j-gcrl/?igshid=10r7m6w2t62bk

[faberryman]

The real news:

https://www.instagram.com/tv/B56l5j-gcrl/?igshid=10r7m6w2t62bk

Instagram? Seriously? Is that your source of real news?

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

Instagram? Seriously? Is that your source of real news?

A video is a video is a video.

Besides, what’s wrong with Instagram?

[Chris Kern]

Instagram? Seriously? Is that your source of real news?

The original source of the Biden-Senate-subpoena story was U.S. National Public Radio: an interview a couple of weeks ago on the NPR program Morning Edition.  Real news, but old news.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

But, for the ideologically blind, who think that if a video is on Instagram, it must be fake news or deep fake, even if the upper left corner in the video and the attached screenshot clearly points to NPR as the source, here is the NPR article itself. For the uninitiated, NPR is a leftie source.

https://www.npr.org/2019/12/09/785320977/biden-rejects-calls-for-impeachment-testimony-as-a-trump-ploy-to-divert-attentio

[Alan Klein]

Maybe Joe Biden told Nancy Pelosi not to send the impeachment papers over to the Senate because then he'll have to testify which he won't want to do. Then everybody will ask what's wrong with Joe Biden? Is he afraid to testify? What did he do that was wrong? Is he above the law? Maybe Trump should ask the Ukrainians to investigate.   Oh wait.  He did that already.

Like I said earlier the more the impeachment goes on the worseJoe Biden will look.  Democrats are shooting themselves in the foot.

[Chris Kern]

For the uninitiated, NPR is a leftie source.

However, for the open-minded, buy my brother's book (still available and selling well on Amazon, even after all these years) and decide for yourself.  N.B., he doesn't receive a royalty from the sales; the company owns all the rights.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

... even after all these years)...

Gee, 2008 edition!? Ancient times, when the media still at least tried to preserve the illusion of objectivity, before turning into rabid attack dogs for their political master’s voice 

[Alan Klein]

NPR was always biased left.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

In the meantime, Trump continues winning:

Trump heads into 2020 with 'historic' judicial appointments

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-heads-into-2020-with-historic-judicial-appointments

That brings Trump’s total to 102 federal judges confirmed in 2019. Over the course of his administration, that total jumps to 187, including 50 to circuit courts of appeal and two Supreme Court justices.

"In terms of quality and quantity, we are going to be just about No. 1 by the time we finish -- No. 1 of any president, any administration," Trump said in early November, noting that George Washington may have technically appointed more judges.

[BernardLanguillier]

Depends on what you read, Peter. Fake news (and TV) will tell you that there was factual evidence and that it was damning. Real news will tell you the "evidence" was bullshit.

Russ,

There is zero doubt that Sonderland testified that there was a Quid Pro Quo based on his direct involvement in the meetings. There is also zero doubt that this is a violation of the constitution.

You need to wrap your head around that fact and think about what it means to you.

Cheers,
Bernard

[Peter McLennan]

Russ,

There is zero doubt that Sonderland testified that there was a Quid Pro Quo based on his direct involvement in the meetings. There is also zero doubt that this is a violation of the constitution.

You need to wrap your head around that fact and think about what it means to you.



Cheers,
Bernard

It's a waste of time, Bernard.

Delay, distract and deny.  That's all <insert usual suspects here> know how to do.

Just like their leader, they provide zero proof for their lies and exaggerated unsubstantiated assertions.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

,
... There is zero doubt that Sonderland testified that there was a Quid Pro Quo based on his direct involvement in the meetings. There is also zero doubt that this is a violation of the constitution...

 

Again, your self-righteousness is reaching comical proportions.

[RSL]

Russ,

There is zero doubt that Sonderland testified that there was a Quid Pro Quo based on his direct involvement in the meetings. There is also zero doubt that this is a violation of the constitution.

You need to wrap your head around that fact and think about what it means to you.

Cheers,
Bernard

Sorry, Bernard, you need to wrap your head around the fact that the determination of whether or not this is true is up to the Senate -- not up to me; not up to you. If Nancy ever decides to pass the articles to the Senate so that an impeachment actually has taken place, then we'll see. Even Ruth Bader Ginsberg says the whole impeachment performance was bullshit. Wrap your head around that one.

[Alan Klein]

Russ,

There is zero doubt that Sonderland testified that there was a Quid Pro Quo based on his direct involvement in the meetings. There is also zero doubt that this is a violation of the constitution.

You need to wrap your head around that fact and think about what it means to you.

Cheers,
Bernard

A violation,  even if true,  is not an impeachable offense. It's like getting a parking ticket.  It must be Treason. Bribery, or Other High Crimes and Misdemeanors.   It's so serious a crime,  no president has ever been found guilty of it.   This is a joke perpetrated on America by Trump haters and the Democrats.   

[BernardLanguillier]

Sorry, Bernard, you need to wrap your head around the fact that the determination of whether or not this is true is up to the Senate -- not up to me; not up to you. If Nancy ever decides to pass the articles to the Senate so that an impeachment actually has taken place, then we'll see. Even Ruth Bader Ginsberg says the whole impeachment performance was bullshit. Wrap your head around that one.

No. You shouldn't get confused between politics and facts.

The Senate will determine whether Trump must be removed from office. But since the Republicans controlling the Senate have announced their intention to make a political play to exonerate trump from his deeds regardless of facts, Trump will remain in history as guilty but saved by a political play from Republicans senators.

That will not change anything about the clear facts we have today demonstrating beyond any possible doubt that Trump did what he is being accused of.

And it won't abuse anyone. The latest poll show that 66% of Republican voters want these hearings to be real, with witnesses. You not being part of these 66% only speaks about yourself. And it begs the same question you have failed to answer, what are you afraid of?

Cheers,
Bernard

[BernardLanguillier]

A violation,  even if true,  is not an impeachable offense. It's like getting a parking ticket.  It must be Treason. Bribery, or Other High Crimes and Misdemeanors.   It's so serious a crime,  no president has ever been found guilty of it.   This is a joke perpetrated on America by Trump haters and the Democrats.

That's your biased reading of the facts, nothing more.

Anyone looking at this objectively will find that an attempt to leverage a foreign power to take personal gains in the context of an election is a major offense. It's a threat to democracy.

Remove the name Trump, ask 1,000 randomly chosen people in the world about this case and 90% will answer the same.

Cheers,
Bernard

[BernardLanguillier]

It's a waste of time, Bernard.

Delay, distract and deny.  That's all <insert usual suspects here> know how to do.

Just like their leader, they provide zero proof for their lies and exaggerated unsubstantiated assertions.

I know. But I can't help it. I think that there are some people for which the truth still matters.

I am a simple person. I work hard, make a living. I am trying to teach my daughter sound values of fairness and equality.

And it sickens me to see the kind of cynical attitude our friends are displaying here. They are so far away from the view I have of a what a great America is. This is deeply disappointing.

And I am not speaking about the kind of example if gives to young Americans who are trying to understand how they should behave in life. The answer being given by the likes of Alan, Russ, Slobodan is... "cheat, lie,... you'll be fine... that's what it takes to be a great American".

Cheers,
Bernard

[BernardLanguillier]

Again, your self-righteousness is reaching comical proportions.

Personal attacks as a last resort when you don't have anything concrete to contribute?

There is nothing self-righteous about stating facts.

Cheers,
Bernard