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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #1460 on: November 14, 2019, 08:33:40 am »

I don't think anyone ever said that he wasn't nice to old ladies. People are mostly concerned that he's incompetent at his job. I'm sure he's good at something. :)

  • Destroyed ISIS, Killed al Baghdadi
  • Stock market at its highest ever. 
  • Rebuilding military
  • Lowest unemployment rate ever for blacks, Latinos and everyone else.
  • Got Europe to increase their defense spending
  • Reduced  many regulations crushing businesses
  • Improved America trade advantages with Mexico and Canada and others
  • Working On improving them with China
  • Stopped North Korea from testing nukes and ICBM's.
  • Got us out of Paris Accord
  • Got us out of Iran agreement
  • Help American fossil fuel industries
  • Building Mexico wall
  • Got new tax bill to reduce taxes and expand business
  • Annoying Democrats and making them neurotic :)

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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #1461 on: November 14, 2019, 08:49:41 am »

Here's my "Letter to the Editor" to the NY Times published in response to their editorial today.

"Where was your concern when Obama used his IRS to go after conservative organizations?  Where was your concern when the Obama administration started a political anti-trump investigation based on a phony dossier to gain political advantage for the Democrats? 

Why are the Bidens above the law to be investigated when there is apparent corruption when one of them is getting paid $50,000 a month in a no-show job?

It seems what's impeachable is in the eye of the beholder and something we never should do lightly.  That's what elections are for yet for three years you have advocated impeaching a president.  Remember, what goes around comes around."
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/13/opinion/trump-impeachment-hearing-day-1.html#commentsContainer

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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #1462 on: November 14, 2019, 09:53:24 am »

  • Destroyed ISIS, Killed al Baghdadi
  • Stock market at its highest ever. 
  • Rebuilding military
  • Lowest unemployment rate ever for blacks, Latinos and everyone else.
  • Got Europe to increase their defense spending
  • Reduced  many regulations crushing businesses
  • Improved America trade advantages with Mexico and Canada and others
  • Working On improving them with China
  • Stopped North Korea from testing nukes and ICBM's.
  • Got us out of Paris Accord
  • Got us out of Iran agreement
  • Help American fossil fuel industries
  • Building Mexico wall
  • Got new tax bill to reduce taxes and expand business
  • Annoying Democrats and making them neurotic :)

Is there a Trump troll resource site where you can copy/paste this stuff on demand? Instead of repeating yourself, just give us the link. :)

But going back to that Michael Lewis book, are you saying that you think the transition went well? Do you think Lewis made it all up?
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #1463 on: November 14, 2019, 10:05:12 am »

  • Destroyed ISIS, Killed al Baghdadi
  • Stock market at its highest ever. 
  • Rebuilding military
  • Lowest unemployment rate ever for blacks, Latinos and everyone else.
  • Got Europe to increase their defense spending
  • Reduced  many regulations crushing businesses
  • Improved America trade advantages with Mexico and Canada and others
  • Working On improving them with China
  • Stopped North Korea from testing nukes and ICBM's.
  • Got us out of Paris Accord
  • Got us out of Iran agreement
  • Help American fossil fuel industries
  • Building Mexico wall
  • Got new tax bill to reduce taxes and expand business
  • Annoying Democrats and making them neurotic :)

1.   ISIS is not destroyed, and most of the damage to them was done by the Kurds, whom we have since abandoned. And Baghdadi was killed by our military with intelligence from the Kurds, not by the bone spur boy
2.   Trump has nothing to do with the stock market, which started going up in 2010 under Obama.
3.   Rebuilding how? By taking money from the military for his asinine wall.
4.   Again, nothing to do with Trump, unemployment has been going down since—you guessed it—2010 under Obama.
5.   True, but the world needs less defense spending, not more.
6.   As the economy under Obama showed, business was doing just great with all these nasty regulations. And most of the regulations Trump removed were in place to protect the environment, workers, and consumers.
7.   The new agreement with Canada and Mexico is essentially identical to the old one, so big whoop.
8.   To the detriment of American farmers, workers, and consumers and 0 results to show.
9.   According to Foreign Policy magazine, “Trump’s growing impulsiveness and unilateral decision-making may signal to Kim that he can get precisely what he wants.” So Kim is doing what’s best for him and The Orange One is taking credit.
10.   Stupidest thing ever. No one with the wits of an oyster doubts anthropogenic climate change any more.
11.   Second stupidest thing ever. Essentially every nuclear weapons expert agreed that this was a good agreement that would reduce the threat of nuclear proliferation, and without the agreement Iran has resumed work toward a bomb. Thanks, Donny, Iran is going to get the bomb.
12.   Why? Dumb as dirt. Fossil fuels need to fade into history, the sooner the better.
13.   The wall? Gimme a break. Why this hatred of the immigrants? And does Trump not know that the Central Americans have ladders and shovels?
14.   What nonsense. Trump added $1.5 trillion to our debt and ladled it out almost entirely to the wealthy and businesses. And businesses, who in theory were going to use it for investment and hiring, instead spent most of it on stock buybacks, which further enrich stockholders.
15.   You got me here—Trump is certainly good at this.
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #1464 on: November 14, 2019, 10:18:28 am »

  • Destroyed ISIS, Killed al Baghdadi
  • Stock market at its highest ever. 
  • Lowest unemployment rate ever for blacks, Latinos and everyone else.
This unrelated to this presidency


  • Rebuilding military
There is nothing to rebuilt;
The US already spends more than the sum of the second nine most spending countries in the world.
they should spend money on more sensible things;
I agree it employs a lot of people and it fuels a lot of wars in the world that keep that industry going strong.


  • Stopped North Korea from testing nukes and ICBM's.
   
   Are you serious? the opposite is true
   

  • Got us out of Paris Accord
  • Got us out of Iran agreement
  • Help American fossil fuel industries
  • Building Mexico wall
All bad decisions
Iran is starting to get their nukes because of this and only a total Middle East War can prevent that.
After that trump will visit Iran as he did with North Korea...
The fossil fuels are from the 20 century- It is thanks to the progressive states like California that the US will not miss the boat.
Fracking the soil contaminates it and may pollute groundwater for decennia.
there is no wall - a few Miles only and it will not help against immigration...
It will be just an ugly reminder of the the Trump era.
Walls did not help the Warschau pact...
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #1465 on: November 14, 2019, 10:26:36 am »

Is there a Trump troll resource site where you can copy/paste this stuff on demand? Instead of repeating yourself, just give us the link. :)

But going back to that Michael Lewis book, are you saying that you think the transition went well? Do you think Lewis made it all up?
First off I didn't tread the book just a summary.  I'm sure there were plenty of transition problems.  There always are since first term presidents never were presidents before.  In Trump's case he never was a politician before, knew none of the niceties, (Still doesn't and doesn;t care).  He had no connection to Washington DC and even the Republicans were ticked off that an outsider won.  But he was voted in as a disruptor.  People were tired of the "same old, same old".  They wanted him "drain the swamp".  Clear out the old brush that had grown stale following their own ways of doing stuff to make themselves more powerful and rich.  The fact he ignored the intelligentsia and traditional DC insiders and procedures are what his supporters wanted and want.   It's like what Canon owners say about Nikon Cameras and vice versa.  They're screwed up, don;t work right and no one should buy them.  :)  Oh, and by the way, have you seen their menus?

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« Reply #1466 on: November 14, 2019, 10:32:43 am »

1.   ISIS is not destroyed, and most of the damage to them was done by the Kurds, whom we have since abandoned. And Baghdadi was killed by our military with intelligence from the Kurds, not by the bone spur boy
2.   Trump has nothing to do with the stock market, which started going up in 2010 under Obama.
3.   Rebuilding how? By taking money from the military for his asinine wall.
4.   Again, nothing to do with Trump, unemployment has been going down since—you guessed it—2010 under Obama.
5.   True, but the world needs less defense spending, not more.
6.   As the economy under Obama showed, business was doing just great with all these nasty regulations. And most of the regulations Trump removed were in place to protect the environment, workers, and consumers.
7.   The new agreement with Canada and Mexico is essentially identical to the old one, so big whoop.
8.   To the detriment of American farmers, workers, and consumers and 0 results to show.
9.   According to Foreign Policy magazine, “Trump’s growing impulsiveness and unilateral decision-making may signal to Kim that he can get precisely what he wants.” So Kim is doing what’s best for him and The Orange One is taking credit.
10.   Stupidest thing ever. No one with the wits of an oyster doubts anthropogenic climate change any more.
11.   Second stupidest thing ever. Essentially every nuclear weapons expert agreed that this was a good agreement that would reduce the threat of nuclear proliferation, and without the agreement Iran has resumed work toward a bomb. Thanks, Donny, Iran is going to get the bomb.
12.   Why? Dumb as dirt. Fossil fuels need to fade into history, the sooner the better.
13.   The wall? Gimme a break. Why this hatred of the immigrants? And does Trump not know that the Central Americans have ladders and shovels?
14.   What nonsense. Trump added $1.5 trillion to our debt and ladled it out almost entirely to the wealthy and businesses. And businesses, who in theory were going to use it for investment and hiring, instead spent most of it on stock buybacks, which further enrich stockholders.
15.   You got me here—Trump is certainly good at this.


Best thing he's done.  15. Annoying Democrats and making them neurotic :)

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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #1467 on: November 14, 2019, 10:38:18 am »

This unrelated to this presidency

There is nothing to rebuilt;
The US already spends more than the sum of the second nine most spending countries in the world.
they should spend money on more sensible things;
I agree it employs a lot of people and it fuels a lot of wars in the world that keep that industry going strong.

   Are you serious? the opposite is true
   
All bad decisions
Iran is starting to get their nukes because of this and only a total Middle East War can prevent that.
After that trump will visit Iran as he did with North Korea...
The fossil fuels are from the 20 century- It is thanks to the progressive states like California that the US will not miss the boat.
Fracking the soil contaminates it and may pollute groundwater for decennia.
there is no wall - a few Miles only and it will not help against immigration...
It will be just an ugly reminder of the the Trump era.
Walls did not help the Warschau pact...
Well, if you don;t like his policies, then you can vote him out of office next year.  Oh wait.  You're not an American and can't vote.   ???

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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #1468 on: November 14, 2019, 11:01:01 am »

1.   ISIS is not destroyed, and most of the damage to them was done by the Kurds...

 ;D ;D ;D

Too bad you put this first... I stopped reading after that.

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« Reply #1469 on: November 14, 2019, 11:39:29 am »

... 14.   What nonsense. Trump added $1.5 trillion to our debt and ladled it out almost entirely to the wealthy and businesses. And businesses, who in theory were going to use it for investment and hiring, instead spent most of it on stock buybacks, which further enrich stockholders...

Nonsense indeed.

a. "Ladled it out" - only if you equate "not taking" with "giving." In other words, if I didn't take your camera away from you today, I gave you a camera?

b. Stock buybacks - somehow that got a bad rep among liberals. I thought you guys like giving money back to people, no? Yes, but not to shareholders? Why not? I am a shareholder, pretty sure most of you as well.

Stock buybacks are giving money back to shareholders (people). Which then goes either into spending (good for the economy) or reinvestment into more promising sectors (again, good for the economy). What's  not to like?

P.S. I lied... I did glance at all the points of hate ;)

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« Reply #1470 on: November 14, 2019, 11:57:50 am »

Well, if you don;t like his policies, then you can vote him out of office next year.  Oh wait.  You're not an American and can't vote.   ???
After 'Grab them by the pussy' Only the US would vote for man...
No, we cannot vote but still he influences a lot around here for the bad.
If this man is not impeached the US constitution does not work properly.
He simply mis-used his Presidential power, as a tool to dirt his opponent for the next election.
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« Reply #1471 on: November 14, 2019, 12:12:38 pm »

After 'Grab them by the pussy' Only the US would vote for man...

And the rest of the world doesn't do that? How do you think the humanity is created?

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« Reply #1472 on: November 14, 2019, 12:53:59 pm »

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After 'Grab them by the pussy' Only the US would vote for man...

And the rest of the world doesn't do that? How do you think the humanity is created?
I can't imagine Pete Buttigieg doing that. Not even Mike Pence.
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« Reply #1473 on: November 14, 2019, 12:58:56 pm »

I can't imagine Pete Buttigieg doing that. Not even Mike Pence.

Mary Pete doesn't contribute to the survival of humanity. But his father did, temporarily.

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« Reply #1474 on: November 14, 2019, 01:10:25 pm »

I can't imagine Pete Buttigieg doing that. Not even Mike Pence.
Mike Pence is so afraid that he will do it that he won't have a one-on-one meeting with a woman unless his wife is present. The Billy Graham rule.
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« Reply #1475 on: November 14, 2019, 01:31:41 pm »

I'm sure there were plenty of transition problems. 

Yeah, there sure were. They were orders of magnitude or two greater than for previous transitions. The level of incompetence is mind-boggling and none of it to do with politics or ideology.

And please stop repeating that phrase "draining the swamp", he has done no such thing.
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« Reply #1476 on: November 14, 2019, 01:44:54 pm »

And the rest of the world doesn't do that? How do you think the humanity is created?

Wow.  Right up there with the "butt plug" comment.
And here I thought that the dinosaurs were extinct.
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« Reply #1477 on: November 14, 2019, 01:53:45 pm »

... And here I thought that the dinosaurs were extinct.

We all know the real reason:

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« Reply #1478 on: November 14, 2019, 05:54:32 pm »

And the rest of the world doesn't do that? How do you think the humanity is created?
I guess we think different on this topic...
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« Reply #1479 on: November 14, 2019, 08:57:51 pm »

After 'Grab them by the pussy' Only the US would vote for man...
No, we cannot vote but still he influences a lot around here for the bad.
If this man is not impeached the US constitution does not work properly.
He simply mis-used his Presidential power, as a tool to dirt his opponent for the next election.

President Obama used his power over the Internal Revenue Service to go after and silence his political opponents before the 2012 re-election campaign.  The IRS can destroy people and organizations financially and even send them to jail.  You couldn't vote in that election either, but I don't recall any complaints about that constitutional violation from you.  Did you call for Obama's impeachment?  There was deafening silence from your side.


We don't impeach presidents for political hijinks.  We suck it up, complain a lot, and then vote the guy out of office or not.  Going the impeachment route is a terrible process because it sets the country up for a replay whenever the president and congress are from different parties, which is very often.  We should be fighting about policy rather than power - who's trying to get it or keep it.  At least let;s wait for elections to play the power and finger pointing game.  Impeachment is a destructive measure for these things never created for that purpose. 
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