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Impeaching Donald Trump
« on: September 28, 2019, 10:38:02 am »

You may have Boris and Brexit, but we now have impeachment hearings this side of the pond to keep us entertained. And who knew you would get a different take on it depending on which papers you read and which news you watch.
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2019, 10:41:57 am »

They're not only going to be entertaining, they're going to hand the House back to the Republicans next year.
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2019, 01:54:00 pm »

Moderator, please move this thread to the "A Touch of Humor" one.

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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2019, 01:57:44 pm »

So Biden and or his Son are / is doing business in l’Ukraine?

What’s wrong with you US guys? Some decades ago a person only mentioning the ussr would be hung as commie.

Now even Biden is dealing with them.

There are no certainties anymore...

At least your potus didn’t loose focus.  8)
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2019, 02:29:57 pm »

So Biden and or his Son are / is doing business in l’Ukraine?

What’s wrong with you US guys? Some decades ago a person only mentioning the ussr would be hung as commie.

Now even Biden is dealing with them.

There are no certainties anymore...

At least your potus didn’t loose focus.  8)
Problem is Democrat Joe Biden was Vice President at the time.  He put the squeeze on the Ukraine government to stop criminal investigations of his son Hunter Biden who was finagling there to make money.  The VP Biden squeeze is what may be illegal which ironically is what the Democrats are accusing Trump of doing asking Ukraine to start up the investigation again.  It's a small world. What goes around comes around. :)

In any case, there are more commies and socialists and leftists here in the USA then there any more in Russia.   The world is going topsy turvy. 

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« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2019, 02:33:47 pm »

... In any case, there are more commies and socialists and leftists here in the USA then there any more in Russia.   The world is going topsy turvy. 

How true! And sad. This coming from a guy who thought he safely escaped them by coming here.

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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2019, 02:35:49 pm »

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« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2019, 02:42:40 pm »

How true! And sad. This coming from a guy who thought he safely escaped them by coming here.

More irony.  You see, the socialist dream was always here too.  It's just that because of the way WWII turned out what with the Red scare and the Iron Curtain and the USSR, Americans were afraid.  As a kid, I'd practice hiding under the desk at school in case there was a nuclear attack.   No one wanted to be on the side of anything that smacked of communism or socialism.  So they couldn't gain a foothold. 

So the collapse of the Soviet Union was both a blessing and a curse.  A blessing by freeing up those people held hostage behind the Curtain and ending the Cold War and M.A.D. Mutually Assured Destruction.  The curse of course being that now people have forgotten 30 years later just how much a menace socialism can be confirming Santayana's warning about people who forget history are doomed to repeat it.  Unfortunately, America has forgotten. 

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« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2019, 02:47:10 pm »

Wanna see how it worked for the Bidens?

https://www.facebook.com/liberalprivilegeusa/videos/667744380375147/UzpfSTc2NjU5NzIyMjoxMDE1ODA5NTEzMjc5MjIyMw/
Beck is a nice guy but no one watches him.  Biden will continue to be protected by the leftist press.  Unless they decide to throw him under the bus for Pocahontas. 

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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2019, 03:11:01 pm »

Beck is a nice guy but no one watches him...

Especially our leftie friends here. They'll immediately go ad hominem, without watching a very illustrative timeline of events and players.

As a reminder, I spent eight years working in Moscow on behalf of several American companies, sometimes with Russian government agencies, often with Russian companies, and this (what Glen Beck illustrated) is exactly how business is conducted and influence peddled in Russia. Ukraine is more or less the same.

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« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2019, 03:20:50 pm »

Meanwhile the liberal press, CNN, has Cuomo protecting Biden as I said.   Look at 1:57 and watch how then Cuomo excuses Biden for doing what Trump apparently did.   https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/09/28/cuomo-closing-argument-trump-biden-comparison-ukraine-cpt-vpx.cnn

Of course CNN has more clout than Beck.  Just add the other liberal, usual suspects like the NY Times and Washington Post, and Biden's home free. 

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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2019, 05:28:06 pm »

You may have Boris and Brexit, but we now have impeachment hearings this side of the pond to keep us entertained. And who knew you would get a different take on it depending on which papers you read and which news you watch.
and what fora your read...!
It came to me as a surprise :)
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2019, 05:35:38 pm »

and what fora your read...!
It came to me as a surprise :)

One doesn’t read “fora” but “forums.”

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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2019, 06:52:03 pm »

One reads both:https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/forum

One can visit fora (in Rome), but can’t read them.
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2019, 04:40:50 am »

One doesn’t read “fora” but “forums.”

Wow. More Ad Hominem is difficult!
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2019, 07:09:06 am »

Sure, as one can equally well visit one forum (in Rome), but cannot read it.

https://grammarist.com/usage/fora-forums/

Any more distractions from the topic?

Well at least something interesting in this Coffee Corner  ;)

BTW Does somebody know why Marylin Monroe should be THAT important at all? I know, OT...
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2019, 08:06:13 am »

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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2019, 08:35:26 am »

Well at least something interesting in this Coffee Corner  ;)

BTW Does somebody know why Marylin Monroe should be THAT important at all? I know, OT...


Simple: she began her rise to fame as a calendar model and then exploited the dumb blonde ethic to its maximum. She did it very well indeed, but only in a very American way. Perhaps it was an exclusively American concept. Since Hollywood ruled the screens outwith maybe France and Italy, both of which countries produced their own hot favourites but with a decidedly smaller distribution muscle, Marilyn reigned as queen.

Then, through ber connection to various members of the Kennedy family, she moved beyond Hollywood into a different world, one that, and this is very important, many of us believe led to her death - or possible murder. That shock ending to her life is the movie star equivalent to the grassy knoll. On another level, her connection via Arthur M. to the intellectual arts world created the interest for many in the conflict or, should that be, perverse attraction between glamour and mental brilliance, and the reasons why so many people who thought about that may have found the situation irresistible to their ponderings.

Dying at their peak has never done stars any harm. But what was her peak? Her last movie, The Misfits saw her late for work, distressed, drugged and in what looks, in hindsight, to have been highly visible terminal decline. As with Elvis, why was nobody willing to be strong, and help?

She died a lonely death shrouded in mystery, and it continues for us, the public, to this day, though I am quite certain that some people still alive today know the truth.

Death was key to longevity. She died, beautiful in the Hollywood idiom; BB did not, and went on to age and deteriorate from goddess to old woman. To my tastes, in the 50s, BB was queen of them all. But then, I am half Italian - the more dominant half for sure - and allegiances often follow blood, and after all, France and Italy are not that far apart. Ask the Corsicans!

P.S. Both Marilyn and BB are far more interesting people to think about and try to understand than the obvious Trump! Thanks for the prandial diversion!
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2019, 09:18:42 am »

Problem is Democrat Joe Biden was Vice President at the time.  He put the squeeze on the Ukraine government to stop criminal investigations of his son Hunter Biden who was finagling there to make money.  The VP Biden squeeze is what may be illegal which ironically is what the Democrats are accusing Trump of doing asking Ukraine to start up the investigation again.  It's a small world. What goes around comes around. :)


This notion that Biden pressured Ukraine to not investigate his son is hogwash. For example, a quote from the Washington Post:

"No evidence of criminal wrongdoing by the Bidens has surfaced. Giuliani’s primary allegation — that Joe Biden pushed for the firing of Ukraine’s top prosecutor to quash a probe into the former minister and Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevsky — is not substantiated and has been widely disputed by former U.S. officials and Ukrainian anti-corruption activists."

But hey, we don't need no stinking facts--we're Republicans!
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« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2019, 09:43:11 am »

This notion that Biden pressured Ukraine to not investigate his son is hogwash. For example, a quote from the Washington Post:

"No evidence of criminal wrongdoing by the Bidens has surfaced. Giuliani’s primary allegation — that Joe Biden pushed for the firing of Ukraine’s top prosecutor to quash a probe into the former minister and Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevsky — is not substantiated and has been widely disputed by former U.S. officials and Ukrainian anti-corruption activists."

But hey, we don't need no stinking facts--we're Republicans!

I like that; it would fit nicely with reference to gun worshipers of any political leaning. I mean, every day in the city jungle exposes us to attack from panther, lion, rattler, elephant, crocodile and head-hunter. We need protection. Anyway, present dangers aside, supper depends on us shooting something to give to the wife to skin and to cook for supper in order to fuel and to satisfy us hungry men of action.

;-)
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