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Morning Coffee
« on: September 28, 2019, 08:56:16 am »

Morning Coffee...


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Re: Morning Coffee
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2019, 09:08:03 am »

Fine stuff, Peter. I do this sometimes, but I usually raise the lows just a tiny bit more so the viewer can see what's going on there without being able to see details.

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Re: Morning Coffee
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2019, 09:09:11 am »

Nice one; difficult to separate a man from his trees!

:-)

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Re: Morning Coffee
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2019, 09:53:24 am »

Fine stuff, Peter. I do this sometimes, but I usually raise the lows just a tiny bit more so the viewer can see what's going on there without being able to see details.
Hi Russ,
I shot this with the intention of solid black shadows. I liked the Shape of the head to hold the human interest...

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Re: Morning Coffee
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2019, 09:54:11 am »

Nice one; difficult to separate a man from his trees!

:-)

Rob
A truism that will continue to be...

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Re: Morning Coffee
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2019, 10:05:03 am »

This is perfect, Pater, with just the right amount of detail.

Clearly you were wearing your "Artist" hat and not your "Photographer" hat or you would have gone for more detail in the shadows.
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Re: Morning Coffee
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2019, 10:27:33 am »

This is perfect, Pater, with just the right amount of detail.

Clearly you were wearing your "Artist" hat and not your "Photographer" hat or you would have gone for more detail in the shadows.

To learn how to do that, you must experiment first with Velvia 50.

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Re: Morning Coffee
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2019, 11:47:59 am »

To learn how to do that, you must experiment first with Velvia 50.

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I shot Velvia 50 and 100 for many years, for that very reason...loved that graphic shadows. This was a iPhone shot and I exposed for the light.

Peter
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Re: Morning Coffee
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2019, 11:49:59 am »

Thanks Russ, Rob and Eric,

It's crazy that we, in the digital days, forget the film days and their graphic Goodness.

Peter
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Re: Morning Coffee
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2019, 01:35:40 pm »

I like it.

Detail in shadows as a must is for photo club  bunglers or pixel wankers.

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Re: Morning Coffee
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2019, 01:41:39 pm »

Thanks Russ, Rob and Eric,

It's crazy that we, in the digital days, forget the film days and their graphic Goodness.

Peter

On top of that, I'd also suggest that if anyone learned to be a good b/w printer using graded papers, then digital processing becomes far easier because there already exists an idea of what good printing can look like, and so a digital file can often be manipulated to get you there. Made it all easy for me once I learned what the various tools in PS were able to do for me. That said, I still feel that shading sky areas by hand was far more intuitive than it is trying to do it digitally.

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Re: Morning Coffee
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2019, 03:32:46 pm »

Like this! Ivo will never understand this one.

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Re: Morning Coffee
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2019, 10:40:58 pm »

Heh...
“my lawyers will be contacting yours next week. “
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Re: Morning Coffee
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2019, 11:41:47 pm »

That said, I still feel that shading sky areas by hand was far more intuitive than it is trying to do it digitally.

Rob

That's because we actually manipulated light, literally by hand...

Peter

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Re: Morning Coffee
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2019, 12:34:52 am »

You guys never heard of cropping?








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Re: Morning Coffee
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2019, 12:37:52 am »

You guys never heard of cropping?

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To what do you refer?

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Re: Morning Coffee
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2019, 04:34:30 am »

Like this! Ivo will never understand this one.

Ha, a genuine Dunning Kruger!
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Re: Morning Coffee
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2019, 09:01:15 am »

That's because we actually manipulated light, literally by hand...

Peter

I don't think I'd thought of it before quite like that; yeah, next to sunburn, it's about as tactile as the experience can get!

Rob

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Re: Morning Coffee
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2019, 09:14:51 am »

Ha, a genuine Dunning Kruger!

From Wiki:

"The most important aspect to remember about this is that the Dunning-Kruger effect is not the province of a few, less skilled or intelligent individuals. Every single person in the world is subject to this effect. We all have some areas where we are knowledgeable and other areas where we are relatively inexperienced or uninformed. So, rather than pointing to the individuals that we can see in our experience have demonstrated this effect, we should look at our own behavior and closely examine those areas where we believe we are skilled and knowledgeable. Considering that experts will tend to underestimate their knowledge, the key is not to correct for the effect by lowering our assessment of ourselves. Instead, we can keep an open mind, question our knowledge, and see if there is more to learn, regardless of our level of training in a given subject."

...............

Though the thinking pattern is far from stranger to my mind, I had never before realised that it had a title, a handle, as it were. Thank you for opening my mind a little bit more - or is it, instead, for giving me yet another distinct box, the name of which I shall probably have forgotten by tonight?

Either way, thanks for the education!

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Re: Morning Coffee
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2019, 10:49:14 am »

Ha, a genuine Dunning Kruger!

How is it that you happen to know all about this syndrome, Ivo?
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