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The cloud
« on: August 15, 2019, 03:23:41 pm »

The Cloud
BY PERCY BYSSHE SHELLEY

(An attempt to contribute something intellectual acceptable. :-) )

I bring fresh showers for the thirsting flowers,
From the seas and the streams;
I bear light shade for the leaves when laid
In their noonday dreams.
From my wings are shaken the dews that waken
The sweet buds every one,
When rocked to rest on their mother's breast,
As she dances about the sun.
I wield the flail of the lashing hail,
And whiten the green plains under,
And then again I dissolve it in rain,
And laugh as I pass in thunder.

I sift the snow on the mountains below,
And their great pines groan aghast;
And all the night 'tis my pillow white,
While I sleep in the arms of the blast.
Sublime on the towers of my skiey bowers,
Lightning my pilot sits;
In a cavern under is fettered the thunder,
It struggles and howls at fits;
Over earth and ocean, with gentle motion,
This pilot is guiding me,
Lured by the love of the genii that move
In the depths of the purple sea;
Over the rills, and the crags, and the hills,
Over the lakes and the plains,
Wherever he dream, under mountain or stream,
The Spirit he loves remains;
And I all the while bask in Heaven's blue smile,
Whilst he is dissolving in rains.

The sanguine Sunrise, with his meteor eyes,
And his burning plumes outspread,
Leaps on the back of my sailing rack,
When the morning star shines dead;
As on the jag of a mountain crag,
Which an earthquake rocks and swings,
An eagle alit one moment may sit
In the light of its golden wings.
And when Sunset may breathe, from the lit sea beneath,
Its ardours of rest and of love,
And the crimson pall of eve may fall
From the depth of Heaven above,
With wings folded I rest, on mine aëry nest,
As still as a brooding dove.

That orbèd maiden with white fire laden,
Whom mortals call the Moon,
Glides glimmering o'er my fleece-like floor,
By the midnight breezes strewn;
And wherever the beat of her unseen feet,
Which only the angels hear,
May have broken the woof of my tent's thin roof,
The stars peep behind her and peer;
And I laugh to see them whirl and flee,
Like a swarm of golden bees,
When I widen the rent in my wind-built tent,
Till calm the rivers, lakes, and seas,
Like strips of the sky fallen through me on high,
Are each paved with the moon and these.

I bind the Sun's throne with a burning zone,
And the Moon's with a girdle of pearl;
The volcanoes are dim, and the stars reel and swim,
When the whirlwinds my banner unfurl.
From cape to cape, with a bridge-like shape,
Over a torrent sea,
Sunbeam-proof, I hang like a roof,
The mountains its columns be.
The triumphal arch through which I march
With hurricane, fire, and snow,
When the Powers of the air are chained to my chair,
Is the million-coloured bow;
The sphere-fire above its soft colours wove,
While the moist Earth was laughing below.

I am the daughter of Earth and Water,
And the nursling of the Sky;
I pass through the pores of the ocean and shores;
I change, but I cannot die.
For after the rain when with never a stain
The pavilion of Heaven is bare,
And the winds and sunbeams with their convex gleams
Build up the blue dome of air,
I silently laugh at my own cenotaph,
And out of the caverns of rain,
Like a child from the womb, like a ghost from the tomb,
I arise and unbuild it again.
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Re: The cloud
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2019, 04:26:20 pm »

Shoot film next time.

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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2019, 04:36:52 pm »

Good shooting, Ivo. It gets the feeling across.
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Re: The cloud
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2019, 05:07:28 pm »

Percy needed an editor.

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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2019, 06:13:35 pm »

Ivo is a better photographer than Percy.
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Re: The cloud
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2019, 10:05:15 pm »

Shoot film next time.

A little hint could help me to do better, Slobodan.  ;)
 
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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2019, 10:33:31 pm »

A little hint could help me to do better, Slobodan.  ;)

That digital shot is unusable, due to the blown highlights. Film provided a gentler transition of highlights, even if blown.

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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2019, 01:12:28 am »

That digital shot is unusable, due to the blown highlights. Film provided a gentler transition of highlights, even if blown.

I ruined it myself I’m afraid.  ;D
How do you handle straight against the sun shots, Slobodan?
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Re: The cloud
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2019, 01:21:25 am »

I ruined it myself I’m afraid.  ;D
How do you handle straight against the sun shots, Slobodan?

During shooting, by bracketing or waiting for the sun to get lower (when it is higher, it is just too strong for anything). In post, it is sometimes possible to use copy and paste, at reduced opacity, from some of the surrounding area onto the blown highlights.

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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2019, 05:14:37 am »

During shooting, by bracketing or waiting for the sun to get lower (when it is higher, it is just too strong for anything). In post, it is sometimes possible to use copy and paste, at reduced opacity, from some of the surrounding area onto the blown highlights.

Thanks for the advice, Slobodan.
Difficulty is that ‘God’ doesn’t wait to peep through the clouds.

I don’t have to much issues with blown away parts (talking about the sun) but the transition and clipping around that area is certainly an issue.

Bracketing and luminosity masking could do the trick, maybe?
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« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2019, 06:12:07 am »

I ruined it myself I’m afraid.  ;D
How do you handle straight against the sun shots, Slobodan?

Babies; bathwater. Today, people forget.

Do what photographers have been doing for ages and ages: use a graduated grey filter over the sky area.

Of course, that means knowing what you intend shooting, and having a filter available. Don't just pin your hope onto digital camera makers' claims about DR. The basic techniques of tranny film exposure will still help; it's just that with digital you may get away with things a little more easily unless you destroy highlights.

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« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2019, 06:32:02 am »

Babies; bathwater. Today, people forget.

Do what photographers have been doing for ages and ages: use a graduated grey filter over the sky area.

Of course, that means knowing what you intend shooting, and having a filter available. Don't just pin your hope onto digital camera makers' claims about DR. The basic techniques of tranny film exposure will still help; it's just that with digital you may get away with things a little more easily unless you destroy highlights.

I still remember film, Rob.  8)

I’m not against blown away highlights btw. Sometimes it’s better than an unnatural recuperated highlight.

But the latter doesn’t change the fact you and Slobodan made a valid comment. Thanks for pointing out this flaw. 
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Re: The cloud
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2019, 06:41:55 am »

Normally I expose like I used to expose color positives, exposure for the highlights. In this case, bracketing the exposure had been wise, like Slobodan explained.
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Re: The cloud
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2019, 12:59:43 pm »

Learned a lot from this discussion, thanks. Beautiful image
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Re: The cloud
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2019, 12:58:49 pm »

The Cloud
BY PERCY BYSSHE SHELLEY

(An attempt to contribute something intellectual acceptable. :-) )

I bring fresh showers for the thirsting flowers,
From the seas and the streams;
I bear light shade for the leaves when laid
In their noonday dreams.
From my wings are shaken the dews that waken
The sweet buds every one,
When rocked to rest on their mother's breast,
As she dances about the sun.
I wield the flail of the lashing hail,
And whiten the green plains under,
And then again I dissolve it in rain,
And laugh as I pass in thunder.

I sift the snow on the mountains below,
And their great pines groan aghast;
And all the night 'tis my pillow white,
While I sleep in the arms of the blast.
Sublime on the towers of my skiey bowers,
Lightning my pilot sits;
In a cavern under is fettered the thunder,
It struggles and howls at fits;
Over earth and ocean, with gentle motion,
This pilot is guiding me,
Lured by the love of the genii that move
In the depths of the purple sea;
Over the rills, and the crags, and the hills,
Over the lakes and the plains,
Wherever he dream, under mountain or stream,
The Spirit he loves remains;
And I all the while bask in Heaven's blue smile,
Whilst he is dissolving in rains.

The sanguine Sunrise, with his meteor eyes,
And his burning plumes outspread,
Leaps on the back of my sailing rack,
When the morning star shines dead;
As on the jag of a mountain crag,
Which an earthquake rocks and swings,
An eagle alit one moment may sit
In the light of its golden wings.
And when Sunset may breathe, from the lit sea beneath,
Its ardours of rest and of love,
And the crimson pall of eve may fall
From the depth of Heaven above,
With wings folded I rest, on mine aëry nest,
As still as a brooding dove.

That orbèd maiden with white fire laden,
Whom mortals call the Moon,
Glides glimmering o'er my fleece-like floor,
By the midnight breezes strewn;
And wherever the beat of her unseen feet,
Which only the angels hear,
May have broken the woof of my tent's thin roof,
The stars peep behind her and peer;
And I laugh to see them whirl and flee,
Like a swarm of golden bees,
When I widen the rent in my wind-built tent,
Till calm the rivers, lakes, and seas,
Like strips of the sky fallen through me on high,
Are each paved with the moon and these.

I bind the Sun's throne with a burning zone,
And the Moon's with a girdle of pearl;
The volcanoes are dim, and the stars reel and swim,
When the whirlwinds my banner unfurl.
From cape to cape, with a bridge-like shape,
Over a torrent sea,
Sunbeam-proof, I hang like a roof,
The mountains its columns be.
The triumphal arch through which I march
With hurricane, fire, and snow,
When the Powers of the air are chained to my chair,
Is the million-coloured bow;
The sphere-fire above its soft colours wove,
While the moist Earth was laughing below.

I am the daughter of Earth and Water,
And the nursling of the Sky;
I pass through the pores of the ocean and shores;
I change, but I cannot die.
For after the rain when i was in solo canoe with never a stain
The pavilion of Heaven is bare,
And the winds and sunbeams with their convex gleams
Build up the blue dome of air,
I silently laugh at my own cenotaph,
And out of the caverns of rain,
Like a child from the womb, like a ghost from the tomb,
I arise and unbuild it again.

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Re: The cloud
« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2019, 05:16:18 pm »


I don’t have to much issues with blown away parts (talking about the sun) but the transition and clipping around that area is certainly an issue.

Bracketing and luminosity masking could do the trick, maybe?

That's certainly what I would do. I love this shot, but the harshness of the transition to clip compromises it. You can do luminosity masking or HDR blends in Photoshop, but in this sort of situation, I usually just shoot a second frame exposed to clip only the sun and paint the detail in from that frame. Clouds give you a lot of latitude for blending, and that keeps me from having to dig too much into the shadows where I find noise.
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« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2019, 02:37:08 pm »

I'm only writing this since you've asked for a critique by posting in this "Critiques" sub-forum :)

This is a beautiful photograph that suffers from the clipped highlights in the clouds.  So, your "eye" was perfect, but the technique, less so.

The suggestion to shoot film is a good one.  In particular, color negative film might have been best do to it's wide exposure latitude.  In fact, color negative film records so deep into the highlights so that even a graduated .ND filter would not have been necessary for your photograph.  I'll post an example of a similar photograph (light wise) that I shot on film below.

Absent a desire or the equipment to shooting on film, you might have used a tripod to record this scene and made two exposures, one for the land and one for the sky, and combined them in photoshop.  You would not even need to create an HDR version, but simply use the sky exposure for the top of frame and blend it into the land exposure for the completed photograph.  And I think this technique is quicker and more accurate than using a graduated ND filter.

Here's my example of color negative capture.  One could easily convert to B&W in Photoshop if desired:

Color Negative Film  Capture

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