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Arlen

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Battle-Scarred
« on: July 14, 2019, 04:22:22 pm »

As always, any thoughts are welcome.


   

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Re: Battle-Scarred
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2019, 10:07:34 pm »

As always, any thoughts are welcome.
I have mixed feelings about this image. On the one hand it has wonderful harmonious colors of oranges, blacks and greys. OTOH, I think its chief overall look is quite eerie. Like an ominous half humanoid face with one black and one transparent eye. The out of focus spokes strike me as disturbing and prevents me from focusing on the texture which your title indicates this is about. I like the placement of the three circular elements within the scene. My thinking, though I could be wrong, this composition would be better served by every element being in focus. It may bring out the rustic qualities better.

JR
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Re: Battle-Scarred
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2019, 03:36:23 am »

I like it a lot but I'm with John about the "in focus" elements.
Well seen but it needs more work!
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Re: Battle-Scarred
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2019, 04:09:22 am »

Please ignore the "critics", invited or otherwise.

The complaint is the equivalent of saying that in every single portrait made by camera and the mind of man, both eyes are obliged to be crisp at all times or, somehow, it becomes difficult to understand "what it's about," as it were. It may have been the Karsh technique, but the world did not fall at his feet: only the sheep felt the obligation.

I would suggest the difficulty, in this specific case, is more likely to reside within the eye of the beholder than in that of the rusted, mask-like object and the presentation.

These situations are why I detest the very nature of critique: it attempts to bend the free will and the spiritual nature of the supplicant into the image of that of the more clever (?) advisor; it is but a public power display, best ignored for your art's sake and that of your own sanitiy, for you will find as many experts giving conflicting views as there are experts.

As in Slobodan's line: when everybody thinks the same nobody thinks.

Please, just do your own thing and be you. Others who know how can teach others that don't how to use cameras and Photoshop, and still, dare I suggest, darkroom work; what you have to say is your business, not theirs. Don't even ask.

Rob
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Re: Battle-Scarred
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2019, 04:37:02 am »

I like the image with the sharp and soft elements. The frame however...

Whatever, I agree with Rob, do your own thing regardless.

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Re: Battle-Scarred
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2019, 05:21:38 am »

Please ignore the "critics", invited or otherwise.

Why don't you take your own advice and share your opinion about the image instead of your opinion about the critics, who, btw, were indeed invited?

The compaint is the equivalent of saying that in every single portrait made by camera and the mind of man, both eyes are obliged to be crisp at all times or, somehow, it becomes difficult to understand "what it's about," as it were. It may have been the Karsh technique, but the world did not fall at his feet: only the sheep felt the obligation.

Not at all. The complaint is that the bar crossing the image is slightly out of focus which makes focussing on the object, taking in the entire image, and specifically the patina, more difficult. The remark was not about the "eyes". Besides, in this day and age, people rave on and on about how eye-autofocus and extreme shallow depth of focus work extremely well on their camera, which, as is quite evident if you look at some modern photography,  primarily results in a single whisker in focus and not much else, including a second or third eye.

I would suggest the difficulty, in this specific case, is more likely to reside within the eye of the beholder than in that of the rusted, mask-like object and the presentation.

These situations are why I detest the very nature of critique: it attempts to bend the free will and the spiritual nature of the supplicant into the image of that of the more clever (?) advisor; it is but a public power display, best ignored for your art's sake and that of your own sanitiy, for you will find as many experts giving conflicting views as there are experts.

As in Slobodan's line: when everybody thinks the same nobody thinks.

Please, just do your own thing and be you. Others who know how can teach others that don't how to use cameras and Photoshop, and still, dare I suggest, darkroom work; what you have to say is your business, not theirs. Don't even ask.

Rob

Nobody tries to bend anything. A suggestion was made that perhaps one could try it with deeper focus so as to emphasise the patina. It was simply a suggestion for a different approach which the suggestor specifically claimed was uncertain to yield the desired result. It showed empathy, and although modern times don't favour this ability, it isn't such a bad character-trait to have. Even towards people offering suggestions...

Personally, I like images that are a bit unsettling, so I think I like it as it is, but I do see how the rendition of the bars might present difficulty in taking in the image. The image bends the mind, both visually as well as mentally, and that, one way or another, is actually a pretty remarkable feat.
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Rob C

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Re: Battle-Scarred
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2019, 06:38:07 am »

To pass an opinion on the image would be hypocricy: I'd be putting my lips to the rim of the same glass as they share. ;-)

" Besides, in this day and age, people rave on and on about how eye-autofocus and extreme shallow depth of focus work extremely well on their camera, which, as is quite evident if you look at some modern photography,  primarily results in a single whisker in focus and not much else, including a second or third eye."

I love your sense of acidic humour, Oscar; you could almost, almost pass for British, heaven help you!

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Re: Battle-Scarred
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2019, 01:19:29 pm »

I appreciate all of your comments. This image is rather out of the ordinary for me. As some have mentioned, it is unsettling, maybe more than it is anything else. It mixes sharp with unsharp, clarity with ambiguity, inanimate with animate. A randomly found and not so uncommon object, that revealed "eerie" qualities upon closer inspection. The title, which just jumped into my head, is also ambiguous and meant to provoke thought; but maybe it misses its mark.
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Re: Battle-Scarred
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2019, 01:59:01 pm »

I can say up close, it bothers me quite a bit. But seen from a distance, no question, it is eerie and powerful. Just admit it Arlen, you found HG Wells Time Machine and brought back one of his god-awful trolls.

JR
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Re: Battle-Scarred
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2019, 06:05:32 pm »

To me this is one of the most fascinating images I've seen on LuLa recently.

I like it a lot (just as it is.)

I also like Rob's comments.

Cheers, Eric
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Re: Battle-Scarred
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2019, 10:22:55 am »

As always, any thoughts are welcome.


   

I love the colors and textures - I find myself drawn to rust, too. But, as a detailed close-up, I would like everything to be sharp. Particularly foreground elements.

Cheers,
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Re: Battle-Scarred
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2019, 03:45:06 pm »

Thanks for your thoughts, Eric and Peter.
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Rob C

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Re: Battle-Scarred
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2019, 03:53:07 pm »

I love the colors and textures - I find myself drawn to rust, too. But, as a detailed close-up, I would like everything to be sharp. Particularly foreground elements.

Cheers,


If it's all crisp you destroy the illusion of depth. You'd require different lighting; I doubt the shot was a studio production.

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