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What is Originality in Photography?
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2019, 04:13:52 am »

I think Rob is referring to doing what is possible for your own situation.
I for myself did whatever i wished as far as I could but the Ferrari and becoming Grandmaster in chess must wait until two or three future lives.

And perhaps in three generations the cars will be "Chan'g Phee Li" and the game Mah-Jongg or whatever the Chinese are planning for the future - if there is one :'( :'( :'(


True. It is about expectations. I guess Rob is talking about the UP! Message.

But, is not all coming against cash? Is Ďfreedom of doingí not a very expensive state of being in a capitalism?

Not saying that the socialistic redistribution works.
The trick is to get yourself on the receiving side of the game. Thatís a skill a totally miss. But this is politics, isnít it?
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Rob C

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« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2019, 04:25:14 am »

I think Rob is referring to doing what is possible for your own situation.
I for myself did whatever i wished as far as I could but the Ferrari and becoming Grandmaster in chess must wait until two or three future lives.

And perhaps in three generations the cars will be "Chan'g Phee Li" and the game Mah-Jongg or whatever the Chinese are planning for the future - if there is one :'( :'( :'(


Both you and Ivo are right: money is one problem and later on, health and energy loss both become equally difficult to handle. Not working makes you very aware of the finite quality of your money in your bank (money getting you practically no interest whilst the bankers, strangely, can afford to grow ever fatter), against the equation of possibly outliving your resources. Then what? Selling matches on the street corner, and becoming a street shooter's object of entertainment and online discourse? Does anybody even need matches anymore? Maybe one could become a professional street model, start a street model agency, even!

KLaban

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Re: What is Originality in Photography?
« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2019, 05:38:28 am »

I give you that immortal line from The Graduate...One word, Plastics Pensions.

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Re: What is Originality in Photography?
« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2019, 05:38:33 am »

Hahaha
Avoid Yosemite, Your chances for originality will be strongly reduced.
There has been  ∞ + 1 photographers doing beautiful pictures there

But they would be my pics:)

BTW, I recently had the time to carefully read William Neil's 40 year career spanning book, some of his Yosemite photos are stunning.

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« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2019, 05:42:46 am »

But we wander off the question: what is originality in photography?

Something may be new to us when we do it, but that isn't originality. That's not to say that folks won't enjoy doing it, but they still can't claim it as original if it's just more of the same. Which most everything, today, has to be because time (and too many photographers) has taken care of that.

;-(

Well, under that definition, then it means to do something that no one has done before. Simple. A few years back, a NatGeo photog took aerial pics of the deserts from an ultra light aeroplane, I have his book, wonderful. Today, it would be easier with a drone, and original.

The thing is, it is  impossible to know what has been done by everybody, which hampers the classification of what is, or is not, original.

Rob C

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« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2019, 07:58:22 am »

I give you that immortal line from The Graduate...One word, Plastics Pensions.

;-)

Your attention was more literary than mine: all I remember is that nice Mrs Robinson's legs and the equally seductive Alfa Romeo topless, but I'm not sure the best choice was having the car topless.

There you go - can't have everything.

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« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2019, 02:41:10 pm »

While it is nearly true in some reasonable sense that every photograph has been taken, it is not true that every photograph has been placed beside every other photograph.

The originality is -- mostly, but not completely -- in bodies of work, sequences, books, these days.
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« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2019, 03:49:20 pm »

While it is nearly true in some reasonable sense that every photograph has been taken, it is not true that every photograph has been placed beside every other photograph.

The originality is -- mostly, but not completely -- in bodies of work, sequences, books, these days.


I waited many years before I bought a Peter Lindbergh book: he put out so many that I figured it best waiting for a late one, which I did. He is fond of ladies with cigarettes... does that count as originality today?

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« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2020, 08:42:53 am »

In my humble opinion, originality is when you take a simple photo, but this photo become loved by lots of people! Even if they cannot find a reason. I mean come on, have you seen those popular photos? They seem pretty simple, yet lots of people are ready to spend a lot of money for them. One good example of that is one company that I know. Look at their commercial photography prices, they are insanely high. Nevertheless, people are paying for it and are paying big money. To understand what Iím talking about you can go see their website and the catalogue. I surely guarantee you will be pretty surprised.
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« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2020, 09:40:12 am »

Not to give a technical answer to a philosophical question, but I will: Every photograph is original. It is original in terms of the photographer that took it with the camera she used at the time she took it, where the earth was in its track through the solar system and on through the universe, down to the quantum fluctuations in the sensor....

But I think that has nothing to do with the essence of Harold's question. Whence originality is one thing, what one is seeking to communicate is another. Shakespeare used unoriginal words to say something original, or maybe to merely observe timeless truths. So, was he original? Perhaps I have redefined the meaning of Harold's question or missed the point, if so, je m'excuse. I think we've done something original if we connect with another soul. If it is one soul or a million, worthless in monetary terms or ridiculously expensive, one image or a thousand, it doesn't matter. But does that mean we should stop trying to connect?

I say feed your soul. The need is not original, but it's the only soul you will nurture. Or not.

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« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2020, 11:10:17 am »

It may have been done by others, but not by me. There are a lot of places that I would like to go to and take pictures of:)
It's the going to that very nice also.  There's nothing like seeing Yosemite from Inspiration Point.  No picture could do that justice.  Being there is unique, a singular experience.

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« Reply #31 on: October 21, 2020, 11:15:29 am »

But we wander off the question: what is originality in photography?

Something may be new to us when we do it, but that isn't originality. That's not to say that folks won't enjoy doing it, but they still can't claim it as original if it's just more of the same. Which most everything, today, has to be because time (and too many photographers) has taken care of that.

;-(
Scenes where you're at home with beautiful light can be unique, or at least rare. At least they're personal and mean something to the photographer.  There are few people who live unique lives.  Yet all our lives are unique to us and valuable to the people we love and who love us.  It's all good. 

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« Reply #32 on: October 23, 2020, 06:01:17 am »

What appeals and what I find refreshing are attempts to deliver something very different to the norm which assails on a daily basis.
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