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problem LR8.0 does not write XMP sidecars
« on: December 14, 2018, 05:35:32 am »

Discovered my nef files that i worked on have no xmp sidecars.
So everything i did to them is lost.
Maybe i did something wrong? I am not a LR specialist.

But never had a problem before
in the Calalogue settings i always leave  unchecked   : Automatically write changes into XMP

could that be the reason?

to clarify how i use LR
I use LR only to develop RAW- not used as a damm
after some period i throw the catalogue away and start from scratch.
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Re: problem LR8.0 does not write XMP sidecars
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2018, 06:23:18 am »

Discovered my nef files that i worked on have no xmp sidecars.
So everything i did to them is lost.
Maybe i did something wrong? I am not a LR specialist.
But never had a problem before
in the Calalogue settings i always leave  unchecked   : Automatically write changes into XMP
could that be the reason?

Exactly. If you don't check it, you have to select the pics and use CtrlS or CmdS on Mac.

to clarify how i use LR
I use LR only to develop RAW- not used as a damm
after some period i throw the catalogue away and start from scratch.

Your choice, of course, but that's not the best way to use LR or how it is designed to be used.

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Re: problem LR8.0 does not write XMP sidecars
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2018, 06:29:42 am »

to clarify how i use LR
I use LR only to develop RAW- not used as a damm
after some period i throw the catalogue away and start from scratch.

I cannot think of a reason for doing that

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Re: problem LR8.0 does not write XMP sidecars
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2018, 07:05:05 am »

I cannot think of a reason for doing that

Ok thank you all.

I am a photoshop user since...
I had already an other way of finding and aranging my photographs- and that works fine. i do not want one central damm -
I use the finder ( mac) to move around my photos not LR
So my photographs migrate from one place to another;  i use NEF, Tiff 16bit and psd/PSB files...

So at some point LR cannot find my files anymore. i dump the cataloque since it is not working anyway.
What i like about LR is the way to quicly develop large quantities of RAW files.
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Re: problem LR8.0 does not write XMP sidecars
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2018, 08:32:43 am »

Ok thank you all.

I am a photoshop user since...
I had already an other way of finding and aranging my photographs- and that works fine. i do not want one central damm -
I use the finder ( mac) to move around my photos not LR
So my photographs migrate from one place to another;  i use NEF, Tiff 16bit and psd/PSB files...

So at some point LR cannot find my files anymore. i dump the cataloque since it is not working anyway.
What i like about LR is the way to quicly develop large quantities of RAW files.

For the same reason you wouldn't drive your car in reverse if you want to move forward, you would make more headway using the application in the way it was designed. Many people dislike applications with separate catlogs because they are acccustomed to a system akin to Adobe Bridge which simply picks up the file structure from your hard drive. If this is the syndrome affecting you, I can assure you, you would sacrifice absolutely nothing by maintaining a properly functioning Lightroom catalog thus making access to your photos so much easier. Once having brought your photos into the catalog, every time you move them around outside the catalog, you complicate accessing them for working on them in the Develop module, then you get frustrated because the catalog isn't working for you and you discard it - of course it isn't because you aren't using it correctly. If you so wish, you can design  Lightroom Collections within the Catalog to have the same file structure that you have on your hard drive and in this way everything remains familiar to you, while working from within the application efficiently.
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Re: problem LR8.0 does not write XMP sidecars
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2018, 09:10:06 am »

For the same reason you wouldn't drive your car in reverse if you want to move forward, you would make more headway using the application in the way it was designed. Many people dislike applications with separate catlogs because they are acccustomed to a system akin to Adobe Bridge which simply picks up the file structure from your hard drive. If this is the syndrome affecting you, I can assure you, you would sacrifice absolutely nothing by maintaining a properly functioning Lightroom catalog thus making access to your photos so much easier. Once having brought your photos into the catalog, every time you move them around outside the catalog, you complicate accessing them for working on them in the Develop module, then you get frustrated because the catalog isn't working for you and you discard it - of course it isn't because you aren't using it correctly. If you so wish, you can design  Lightroom Collections within the Catalog to have the same file structure that you have on your hard drive and in this way everything remains familiar to you, while working from within the application efficiently.

Mark, thank you for your respons...
There are some things i do not like about LR..

does it see PSD and PSB files... ?
I work with panorama's and the base are made of 16 bit tiff
so it sees half of what i do.
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I agree my workflow is not standard - i work with media Pro local catalogue - filemaker database ( connecting everything) and Neofinder that has made a database of my 14 Harddisk archive.
I can find anything i want in 5 seconds...- anything... not only images.
These three programs are well buit and very flexible in use.
This way i work already 20 years so no disruption of any kind.
Now only if Media pro would be continued and updated ...
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I can recommend Neofinder btw.


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Re: problem LR8.0 does not write XMP sidecars
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2018, 09:13:35 am »

PSD yes, PSB no.

Look up a plugin called AnyFile from John Ellis. I don't use it, but it lets you catalogue any file.

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Re: problem LR8.0 does not write XMP sidecars
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2018, 10:10:14 am »

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I agree my workflow is not standard - i work with media Pro local catalogue - filemaker database ( connecting everything) and Neofinder that has made a database of my 14 Harddisk archive.
I can find anything i want in 5 seconds...- anything... not only images.
These three programs are well buit and very flexible in use.
This way i work already 20 years so no disruption of any kind.
Now only if Media pro would be continued and updated ...
...
I can recommend Neofinder btw.

That's impressive Pieter, but it doesn't affect what I was suggesting: You can configure Collections in LR to cohere with how you have your databases managed externally, so that while you are working in Lr's Develop module for doing the things you like doing there, you can make efficient use of the Lr Catalog to retrieve the photos you wish to edit, and it won't disturb any of your external arrangements. It can be designed as a win-win.
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Re: problem LR8.0 does not write XMP sidecars
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2018, 01:54:18 pm »

Mark and John,

Thank you for the suggestions- i will look into it.
As you both noticed i am an amateur in the field of LR so there is room for improvement... ;)



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