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Photoshop Elements 2018 doesn't report Exposure Compensation
« on: September 21, 2018, 07:02:26 pm »

It appears that Adobe doesn't report exposure compensation in the File Info.  >:(  Does anybody know a workaround for this, short of making notes at the time of shooting and then manually adding that info?
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Re: Photoshop Elements 2018 doesn't report Exposure Compensation
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2018, 07:31:04 pm »

There are Adobe products for that task.
Had you accepted the advise given to you a couple weeks ago to get the Adobe Photo Plan for $9.95 a month, you'd have it and Photoshop (to replace Photoshop CS2 you didn't buy and had to replace) but no, you had to argue it cost far more (it doesn't) and had to rush out and buy an amateur product (Elements) despite the better advise you again ignored. OR Affinity Photo, also recommended to you has this data in it's EXIF report.
Why ask questions if you refuse to follow sound advise provided? Buyer's remorse yet?
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Re: Photoshop Elements 2018 doesn't report Exposure Compensation
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2018, 11:15:43 pm »

OMG! I didn't follow the advice to spend $10 every month or buy Affinity (a product I test drove and didn't particularly care for) and dared to buy an "amateur" product. I wonder how many people, besides myself, you just insulted with your "amateur" remark. And how can you give "advice" if you don't even know what kind of photography I do or how often?
I asked this particular question because I would hope there are people out there that might be able to help and I'm still hoping.
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Re: Photoshop Elements 2018 doesn't report Exposure Compensation
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2018, 11:24:36 pm »

OMG! I didn't follow the advice to spend $10 every month or buy Affinity (a product I test drove and didn't particularly care for) and dared to buy an "amateur" product. I wonder how many people, besides myself, you just insulted with your "amateur" remark. And how can you give "advice" if you don't even know what kind of photography I do or how often?
I asked this particular question because I would hope there are people out there that might be able to help and I'm still hoping.
Keep hoping.
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Re: Photoshop Elements 2018 doesn't report Exposure Compensation
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2018, 11:55:47 pm »

Yep, that's very helpful.
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Re: Photoshop Elements 2018 doesn't report Exposure Compensation
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2018, 04:59:00 am »

It appears that Adobe doesn't report exposure compensation in the File Info.  >:(  Does anybody know a workaround for this, short of making notes at the time of shooting and then manually adding that info?
If you do not find a workaround you may want to consider options as the information is obviously in the file, therefore you should not need to make notes when shooting:

1.  ExiftoolGUI is an excellent little app. FOC from Phil Harvey.  All the information you could want contained within your file.  I know this application for Windows not sure if there is a Mac version.

2.  Adobe Bridge?  This is free from Adobe but I do not know if it will contain the specific data you are looking for
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Re: Photoshop Elements 2018 doesn't report Exposure Compensation
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2018, 10:07:01 am »

Elements (RTFM):
Save or delete metadata templates:
If you have metadata that you repeatedly enter, you can save the metadata entries in metadata templates. The templates can be used for entering information, and they save you the effort of retyping metadata in the File Info dialog box. In the Photo Browser, you can search for metadata to locate files and photos.

Open the File Info dialog box (File > File Info) and do one of the following:
To save metadata as a template, click the drop-down button in the row of buttons in the File Info dialog box, and select Export. Enter a template name, and click Save.

To delete a metadata template, click Show Templates Folder. Browse and select the template you want to delete, and press Delete.
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Re: Photoshop Elements 2018 doesn't report Exposure Compensation
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2018, 10:50:36 am »

And how can you give "advice" if you don't even know what kind of photography I do or how often?
Blame that on one poster's lack of transparency.  ;)
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Re: Photoshop Elements 2018 doesn't report Exposure Compensation
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2018, 01:57:19 pm »

If you do not find a workaround you may want to consider options as the information is obviously in the file, therefore you should not need to make notes when shooting:

1.  ExiftoolGUI is an excellent little app. FOC from Phil Harvey.  All the information you could want contained within your file.  I know this application for Windows not sure if there is a Mac version.

2.  Adobe Bridge?  This is free from Adobe but I do not know if it will contain the specific data you are looking for

Adobe Bridge will do it.  If it is free, that's what I would use.  It also will help managing the files.  My Adobe Bridge CC does have the Ex Comp information.  Don't know if the free version is different.
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Re: Photoshop Elements 2018 doesn't report Exposure Compensation
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2018, 02:04:39 pm »

My Adobe Bridge CC does have the Ex Comp information.
Yup, it's in the The metadata placard:
https://helpx.adobe.com/bridge/using/metadata-adobe-bridge.html
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Re: Photoshop Elements 2018 doesn't report Exposure Compensation
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2018, 02:05:37 pm »

OMG! I didn't follow the advice to spend $10 every month or buy Affinity (a product I test drove and didn't particularly care for) and dared to buy an "amateur" product.

Hi Frans,

I can't help you with Photoshop Elements, I use the last non-subscription version of Photoshop CS6 Extended.
Out of principle, and from a financial point of view (it's much more expensive than it was), I stopped using Adobe's subscription only offerings (including Lightroom) if possible.

Since the advent of Affinity Photo (and Designer, and Publisher Beta version), I use that more and more. Like Photoshop, it's feature laden (and then some!) and therefore has a learning curve. But what great software it is, totally recommended for most users.

Maybe you should give it another try, and follow the excellent tutorial videos to quickly get you up to speed.

Hope you solve your issues with Elements, but I won't hold my breath because Elements is deliberately lacking certain functionality.

Cheers,
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Re: Photoshop Elements 2018 doesn't report Exposure Compensation
« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2018, 02:08:21 pm »

Maybe you should give it another try, and follow the excellent tutorial videos to quickly get you up to speed.
Or try it once.... But that was recommended awhile ago and fell on deaf ears. But yeah, it's a very impressive package and yes, I did purchase it.  ;)
Bridge might work IF the OP's running a system modern enough, another big if:
https://helpx.adobe.com/bridge/system-requirements.html

Windows

Intel® Core™2 Duo or AMD Athlon® 64 processor; 2 GHz or faster processor
Microsoft® Windows® 7 with Service Pack 1, Windows 8.1, or Windows 10*
2 GB of RAM (8 GB recommended)
2 GB of available hard-disk space for 32-bit installation; 2.1 GB of available hard-disk space for 64-bit installation; plus additional free space required during installation (cannot install on removable flash storage devices)
1024x768 display (1280x800 recommended) display with 16-bit color and 512 MB of VRAM (1 GB recommended)
OpenGL 2.0–capable system
Internet connection and registration are necessary for required software activation, validation of subscriptions, and access to online services.†
* October 2017 release of Bridge CC is not supported on Windows 10 version 1507.

macOS

Multicore Intel processor with 64-bit support
Mac OS X v10.11 (El Capitan), macOS v10.12 (Sierra), or macOS v10.13 (High Sierra)**
2GB of RAM (8 GB recommended)
2GB of available hard-disk space for installation; additional free space required during installation (cannot install on a volume that uses a case-sensitive file system or on removable flash storage devices)
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Re: Photoshop Elements 2018 doesn't report Exposure Compensation
« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2018, 02:26:35 pm »

Frans, Try Irfanview with its plugins.  All free.  https://www.irfanview.com/

Notice the ExposureBiasValue - -1.30 on this typical picture I took.

Here is the EXIF data provided by Irfanview.

Filename - DSC02071.JPG
Make - SONY
Model - DSC-RX100M4
Orientation - Top left
XResolution - 350
YResolution - 350
ResolutionUnit - Inch
Software - DSC-RX100M4 v2.00
DateTime - 2018:04:15 05:39:26
Artist - Alan Klein
YCbCrPositioning - Co-Sited
Copyright - ALAN KLEIN
ExifOffset - 38196
ExposureTime - 1/80 seconds
FNumber - 6.30
ExposureProgram - Manual control
ISOSpeedRatings - 160
Recommended Exposure Index - 160
ExifVersion - 0230
DateTimeOriginal - 2018:04:15 05:39:26
DateTimeDigitized - 2018:04:15 05:39:26
ComponentsConfiguration - YCbCr
CompressedBitsPerPixel - 4 (bits/pixel)
ShutterSpeedValue - 1/80 seconds
ApertureValue - F 6.30
BrightnessValue - 6.97
ExposureBiasValue - -1.30
MaxApertureValue - F 1.80
MeteringMode - Multi-segment
LightSource - Auto
Flash - Flash not fired, compulsory flash mode
FocalLength - 8.80 mm
FlashPixVersion - 0100
ColorSpace - sRGB
ExifImageWidth - 5472
ExifImageHeight - 3080
InteroperabilityOffset - 34278
FileSource - DSC - Digital still camera
SceneType - A directly photographed image
CustomRendered - Normal process
ExposureMode - Auto bracket
White Balance - Auto
DigitalZoomRatio - 1.00 x
FocalLengthIn35mmFilm - 24 mm
SceneCaptureType - Standard
Contrast - Normal
Saturation - Normal
Sharpness - Normal
Lens Info - 8.80  25.70  1.80  2.80
Lens Model - 8.8-25.7 mm f/1.8-2.8

Maker Note (Vendor): -
High ISO NoiseReduction - Off
Creative Style - Standard
Dynamic Range Optimizer - Off
Image Stabilization - On
Color Mode - Standard
Quality - Extra Fine
Sony Model ID - 341

Thumbnail: -
Compression - 6 (JPG)
ImageDescription -
Make - SONY
Model - DSC-RX100M4
Orientation - Top left
XResolution - 72
YResolution - 72
ResolutionUnit - Inch
Software - DSC-RX100M4 v2.00
DateTime - 2018:04:15 05:39:26
Artist - Alan Klein
JpegIFOffset - 34622
JpegIFByteCount - 3574
YCbCrPositioning - Co-Sited
Copyright - ALAN KLEIN

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Re: Photoshop Elements 2018 doesn't report Exposure Compensation
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2018, 02:48:40 pm »

I wonder how many people, besides myself, you just insulted with your "amateur" remark.
Why is it insulting ? It's software with the professional pre-press parts missing and a simplified interfaces for novices.
It's still capable of delivering quality results by knowledgeable users, but that's not who Adobe aim this product at.

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Re: Photoshop Elements 2018 doesn't report Exposure Compensation
« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2018, 02:59:36 pm »

Why is it insulting ? It's software with the professional pre-press parts missing and a simplified interfaces for novices.
It's still capable of delivering quality results by knowledgeable users, but that's not who Adobe aim this product at.
I stated Elements is an amateur product (certainly the case compared to Photoshop), he's just associating that with his own work so to speak and that's why he's 'insulted'. IF he wants us to see his photographic work, or describe his bkgnd, he can but hasn't. So it's really just another kind of comment not worth considering. Also note, in his original post about Photoshop CS2, where he was advised to examine Affinity Photo which was recommended by multiple people such as myself, he indicated clearly he went ahead and ordered Elements before even asking his question to the various forums. Mind made up.
https://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=126561.msg1064573#msg1064573
Yes, I know! CS2 is "ancient" but till yesterday it did everything I needed it to do. Then some tools disappeared magically. Uninstall and reinstall, right? Wrong! For years Adobe made CS2 available for free with a serial number needed to install and it worked just fine till yesterday, when the serial number was no longer recognized. Couldn't find anything online about this. So, took a deep breath and ordered PSE from Best Buy. I'm not going to pay $20 and after one year $30 each month for PS CC. Back on the learning curve to learn how PSE is different from PS. Ouch!  :'(
Then after complaining (ouch) about the new learning curve, there was the 'issue' of DNG's:
In order to be less dependent on camera-and-brand-specific RAW formats I've been converting my Nikon NEF files to the DNG format, you know, the Adobe open format to be less dependent on camera-and-brand-specific RAW formats.Now it looks like Adobe's own Photoshop Elements 2018 can open DNG files but cannot show DNG thumbnails. Ggggrrrrr... >:( So, am I missing something and does anybody (Adobe maybe) have a solution for this issue?
So this entire venture into Elements was kind of a disaster in selection despite the advise given. Why ask?  :P
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Re: Photoshop Elements 2018 doesn't report Exposure Compensation
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2018, 04:11:45 pm »

Andrew, He was asking for a workaround for a product he bought.  Not a critique on why he made a decision to buy the product.  We all have differing reasons for doing things that might not comport with other's recommendation.  Otherwise, we all might be shooting Nikon.  :)

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« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2018, 04:38:17 pm »

Andrew, He was asking for a workaround for a product he bought.
A product he bought BEFORE asking for one and further, a possible solution for Elements was provided. That’s kind of moot had the request for aid been genuine.
So again I'll aid that this entire venture into Elements was kind of a disaster in selection despite the advise given. Why ask?  :P
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Re: Photoshop Elements 2018 doesn't report Exposure Compensation
« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2018, 04:59:04 pm »

So a relative trips because he didn't tie his shoelaces like you told him too beforehand.  Do you laugh at his mishap or help him get up?  Be nice.  Use your substantial knowledge to assist.  He'll appreciate it and the rest of us will learn something along the way too.  :)

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Re: Photoshop Elements 2018 doesn't report Exposure Compensation
« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2018, 05:49:36 pm »

Use your substantial knowledge to assist.
I did. But a call for help and a call for attention isn’t the same.
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