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i1Profiler ICC Optimization
« on: August 17, 2018, 05:25:13 am »

Dear all,

Quick Question:
When I print out the Optimization Traget, should I print with "No Color Management" or "with the profile that need to be optimized"?

Thanks
Aaron

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Re: i1Profiler ICC Optimization
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2018, 08:38:38 am »

No Color Management

The whole idea of the process is to characterize the native behaviour of the printer, unaided.
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Re: i1Profiler ICC Optimization
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2018, 09:00:38 am »

Dear all,

Quick Question:
When I print out the Optimization Traget, should I print with "No Color Management" or "with the profile that need to be optimized"?

Thanks
Aaron
Yes, exactly like the former targetS.
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2018, 09:40:29 am »

I may have answered the wrong question; I responded to the question as if it pertained to the original profiling. But on review I see the question is about optimizing the profile.

So, Andrew, while my answer may be wrong, your answer is ambiguous, in the sense that Aaron asked an "either/or" question and you are answering "Yes" - but yes to what? - with no colour management or with the profile to be optimized?
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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2018, 09:42:28 am »

I may have answered the wrong question; I responded to the question as if it pertained to the original profiling. But on review I see the question is about optimizing the profile.

So, Andrew, while my answer may be wrong, your answer is ambiguous, in the sense that Aaron asked an "either/or" question and you are answering "Yes" - but yes to what? - with no colour management or with the profile to be optimized?
Print exactly like the original targetS!
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Re: i1Profiler ICC Optimization
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2018, 09:45:15 am »

What is a "targetS"? The original profiling target?
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Re: i1Profiler ICC Optimization
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2018, 10:01:58 am »

Yes, exactly like the former targetS.
I read that to mean with no color management like all other times The S is likely a typo. or for emphasis.
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Re: i1Profiler ICC Optimization
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2018, 10:05:50 am »

I read that to mean with no color management like all other times The S is likely a typo. or for emphasis.
Dave

I tend to agree, but I'd appreciate Andrew's confirmation.
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« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2018, 10:10:35 am »

What is a "targetS"? The original profiling target?
The bloody targets that built the bloody profile.  ;)
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« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2018, 10:11:46 am »

I read that to mean with no color management like all other times The S is likely a typo. or for emphasis.
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You got it. The S for possibly more than one target.
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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2018, 10:20:02 am »

The bloody targets that built the bloody profile.  ;)

Yuck, why get bloody......  :-); OK, thanks for clarifying Andrew. So my answer turned out to be correct even though I was answering a misunderstood question. A foggy Friday morning ............
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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2018, 10:52:13 am »

A foggy Friday morning ............
I'm ready for the first cop ... cup of coffee myself.  :D
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Re: i1Profiler ICC Optimization
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2018, 11:01:38 am »

Thank you guys!

I rarely use optimisation. But today I built an icc @ 1440dpi printing resolution, but end up needed to print at 2880. The B&W print came up not neutral enough, instead of build a new one, I was thinking using the 2502 gary patches to optimise it see if it’s gonna help. The print came out perfect. So I can sure this function is working!

BTW, I was trying to find any document Tati in online regard to my question, as normal, NONE! Thanks to XRite

Aaron


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Re: i1Profiler ICC Optimization
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2018, 12:02:32 pm »

Optimization either does nothing visible or can help and of course depending on the target (I use a custom built target). I do optimization on all profiles. Optional for clients but recommend in doing so unless extra printing is prohibitive. Nothing to lose, potentially something to gain.
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