Global Cooling. The sky is falling.

[Robert Roaldi]

The solution, Alan, is simple: don’t ask for a second opinion. I’m sure Robert doesn’t. After all, what doctors practice is science, and we all know (thanks, Bart!) the science is settled, with a 97% consensus, why bother with a second opinion? Robert probably simply needs to know if the doctor is anti-Trump to trust his life to him.
 

What a bizarre response.

Medical diagnostics can be very complex, we're not dealing with a simple measurement experiment in a lab. What this has to do with scientific research, however, I don't know.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

... Medical diagnostics can be very complex, we're not dealing with a simple measurement experiment in a lab...

Sorry, I got confused... are we talking about climate science or...?

[LesPalenik]

My wife's doctor is an endocrinologist and internal  medical doctor too.  He's also a terrific diagnostician who saved my sister's life finding out she had a rare disease just based on a hunch he had.  A kind of guy who thinks out-of-the-box.  Most people, including doctors, and climatologists, tend to follow protocols developed.  They put everyone and everything in the same box.    Since they average everything, they get average results.  You might as well see a computer.

That's what I do. I always consult my computer and often its advice is very different from the doctor's recommendation. Doing this it saved my life, and I have several other friends who are of the same opinion. The main challenge is to sift through the real, fake and stupid links.
However, sometimes the doctors employ the latest technological breakthroughs. I noticed that when my GP recently checked my pulse, he used his finger and the latest iPhone with a stopwatch app.

[Alan Klein]

That's what I do. I always consult my computer and often its advice is very different from the doctor's recommendation. Doing this it saved my life, and I have several other friends who are of the same opinion. The main challenge is to sift through the real, fake and stupid links.
However, sometimes the doctors employ the latest technological breakthroughs. I noticed that when my GP recently checked my pulse, he used his finger and the latest iPhone with a stopwatch app.

When my urologist checks my prostate, I can't see what finger he uses. 

Which reminds me of the kid that was saved by her iPhone heart rate monitor.
https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/05/01/apple-watch-heart-rate-monitor-saves-florida-teens-life

[Alan Klein]

They just proved what I predicted here months and month ago.  That reefs will follow the terrain as sea levels rise or fall.
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/05/great-barrier-reef-has-had-five-near-death-experiences-past-30000-years

[Rob C]

I hope your medics comeup with the right diagnosis and your problem successfully resolved.

Twice, over maybe three years, I have gone to my local quack wondering about what I think to be a hernia. He told me, each time, that it is not hernia but a weakness in the wall of the stomach. I thought they were the same thing.

Anyway, my doctor granddaughter was out here on a flying visit, and as a second opinion that I forced upon her, put her finger on it, said cough, then said you have a hernia.

Reassuring, isn't it? I did ask about mesh, but she assured me it's not the same type of mesh that has been effing up women with collapse problems.

I think I shall concentrate on the heart.

[Jeremy Roussak]

When my urologist checks my prostate, I can't see what finger he uses. 

Which reminds me of the kid that was saved by her iPhone heart rate monitor.
https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/05/01/apple-watch-heart-rate-monitor-saves-florida-teens-life

The idea that someone of normal intelligence would not realise that she had a resting heart rate of 190bpm is, shall we say, a little hard to believe, as is the assertion that it was the first sign of chronic kidney disease or the assertion that diagnosis at that stage could "save her life". Sounds (to me) like the usual ignorant drivel one hears when people with no understanding of it speak of medicine.

Jeremy

[LesPalenik]

When my urologist checks my prostate, I can't see what finger he uses. 

Whatever finger he uses, measuring a pulse in such a way would surely result in an elevated heart rate.

[Jeremy Roussak]

Whatever finger he uses, measuring a pulse in such a way would surely result in an elevated heart rate.

But whose? http://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=103793.msg953537#msg953537

Jeremy

[Bart_van_der_Wolf]

Sorry, I got confused... are we talking about climate science or...?

Like in most fields of science, the basics are pretty straightforward because they have their foundation in Physics, or Chemistry, or Geology, to name a few.

For example, the CO2 levels can be accurately measured, and its spectral absorption characteristics are well known. Also its origin is well understood, so it's possible to develop several scenarios with varying amounts of anthropogenic influence between them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keeling_Curve

Like in the Medical field, the human factor is the more difficult one to judge and predict ...

Cheers,
Bart

[Alan Goldhammer]

 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2018/05/29/leaping-from-winter-to-summer-in-just-weeks-the-midwest-is-sweltering/?utm_term=.78f145dafe22

Earliest 100 degree day in Minneapolis and other records throughout the midwest.

[Alan Klein]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2018/05/29/leaping-from-winter-to-summer-in-just-weeks-the-midwest-is-sweltering/?utm_term=.78f145dafe22

Earliest 100 degree day in Minneapolis and other records throughout the midwest.

What's your point? Is that good or bad?  It seems better and warmer weather is good for crops in the Midwest.
https://agfax.com/2018/05/09/usda-crop-progress-planting-jumped-ahead-with-improved-weather-dtn/

The problem with global warming supporters is that they only state that warmer weather is bad.  As I stated above, what seemed normal 150 years may actually be less valuable overall.  A few extra degree may turn out to be a boon for species, farming and other things.  Don;t get stuck on just noticing the change.  Honestly appraise all effects due to the change.  We may find on average things will be better.

[Alan Goldhammer]

What's your point? Is that good or bad?  My point is that it is an example of extreme weather and that's all.  I'm done responding to all the dumb replies and will only be publishing links to extreme and interesting weather patterns.   I plan to ignore all responses as it's just trolling.  If you don't want to read the article don't read it; pretty simple rule.  From now on only links to articles will be posted and I'm not going to engage in any further discussion.  Feel free to report me to the moderator; he pretty much dislikes me anyway.

[RSL]

What's your point? Is that good or bad?  It seems better and warmer weather is good for crops in the Midwest.
https://agfax.com/2018/05/09/usda-crop-progress-planting-jumped-ahead-with-improved-weather-dtn/

The problem with global warming supporters is that they only state that warmer weather is bad.  As I stated above, what seemed normal 150 years may actually be less valuable overall.  A few extra degree may turn out to be a boon for species, farming and other things.  Don;t get stuck on just noticing the change.  Honestly appraise all effects due to the change.  We may find on average things will be better.

You don't understand, Alan. If global warming (currently known as "climate change" since no warming has taken place for more than a decade) is good, then left-wing government types have no control over you. You're free to heat your house with coal or natural gas instead of solar panels or windmills. You're free to drive a big honker of a minivan. You're free to vote any way you want to vote. Government control of individuals' private lives might become even more difficult than it already is.

[jeremyrh]

When my urologist checks my prostate, I can't see what finger he uses. 

Doctor "Don't be embarassed if this examination causes an erection"
Patient "I don't feel aroused at all"
Doctor "I wasn't talking about you"

[Alan Klein]

Doctor "Don't be embarassed if this examination causes an erection"
Patient "I don't feel aroused at all"
Doctor "I wasn't talking about you"

Now that you mention it, my doctor did have a smile on his face. 

[LesPalenik]

So maybe it wasn't a finger after all.

[Alan Klein]

So maybe it wasn't a finger after all.

Yikes!  Now you're going to get us both barred. 

[LesPalenik]

One way to bring the temperature down is to buy a more efficient airplane.

A prosperity gospel televangelist from Louisiana says Jesus has asked him to buy a new private jet. Jesse Duplantis, leader of Jesse Duplantis Ministries and the owner of three other private jets, is asking his followers to chip in so his ministry can purchase a brand new Dassault Falcon 7X, which runs about $54 million. In a video recently published on his website, Duplantis says the planes get him closer to the Lord.

Duplantis goes on to tell his followers that jets, especially nice ones with good fuel efficiency, allow him and his ministries to reach more people around the world. And no, it wouldn't technically be his, it would be the ministry's. "All it's gonna do is it's going to touch people, it's going to reach people, it's going to change lives one soul at a time," Duplantis said of the aircraft.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/30/us/jesse-duplantis-plane-falcon-7x-prosperity-gospel-trnd/index.html

[Robert Roaldi]

One way to bring the temperature down is to buy a more efficient airplane.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/30/us/jesse-duplantis-plane-falcon-7x-prosperity-gospel-trnd/index.html

God works in increasingly mysterious ways.