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Re: Trump II
« Reply #240 on: August 13, 2017, 03:19:31 pm »

"Not all Muslims are terrorists"  =  Do nothing to stop it.
"Not all White Southerners are racists"  =  Do nothing to stop it.
"Not all gun owners are mass shooters"  =  Do nothing to stop it.
"Not all illegal immigrants are criminals"  =  Do nothing to stop it.

Your inept government in action inaction.

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #241 on: August 13, 2017, 07:56:35 pm »

There is no such thing as incitement of violence speech (noise pollution, maybe).  Freedom of speech should never be infringed for fear of how some may violently react to that speech.   

Banning hate speech is a short and sure road to tyranny and incompetence, because the truth often gets censored alongside the hate.




[Note: This photo (by Robert E. Fuller) might be a poor metaphor for free hate speech because sea lions occasionally eat, as well as rape, penguins   But you get my point]
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #242 on: August 13, 2017, 08:54:10 pm »



But of course the Alt-Left will infer the mere sight of a Trump advocate as physical intimidation.  To them I can only suggest they titrate their medication.

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« Reply #243 on: August 13, 2017, 10:35:25 pm »

Their posture looks defensive, not offensive, to me.  But then I wasn't there. And frankly I wouldn't waste my time giving neo-Nazi idiots any attention by attending.  To be fair to Trump, if violence broke out at a pro-Hillary march, should the first words from Trump be condemnation of Hillary supporters without first learning who's to blame for the violence? Trump detractors knee-jerked this one, again. That said, I'm sure Trump had and would blame Hillary for violent outbursts at her rallies. He does like to blame. And for those who say Tump supports white supremacists because he didn't single them out in his impromptu address moments after the vehicular rampage  is absurd to say the least. I lost count of how many times Obama fell silent upon news of our citizens murdered by catch-and-released illegal immigrant career criminals, and nobody from the Left hissed a fit.

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #244 on: August 14, 2017, 06:27:56 pm »



The more you deny something the more people believe you are guilty of it.

The leftist media is baiting Trump to do just that, to deny being a racist, over and over again.  He's not about to fall for that trick.




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Re: Trump II
« Reply #245 on: August 15, 2017, 12:23:29 am »

Australia has already started to ban synagogues in Sydney out of fear of Islamic attacks.  I guess being Jewish qualifies as hate speech ( a.k.a. "incitement of violence") nowaday.  I'm sure the Left in America laud Australia's crackdown on free speech as "progressive."





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« Reply #246 on: August 15, 2017, 08:26:52 am »

So "we" is the people of Charlottesville + you, OK I understand ;)

Regarding your comparison, we're talking about General Lee, not about Van Gogh and we're talking about removing a statue of a general and not raising a new one for a painter. So I don't see the connection you're trying to make and I don't see why you call my position illogical. If anything is illogical it's you're story of trying to compare the two.

Whether you (or I) like everything he did or not, Lee is still a historical figure and the support for removing the statue is not unanimous. I find it a stupid decision to remove it, but I understand many people don't agree with me, and that's fine.

I could possibly agree with this on the grounds that we need to keep relics to remember our history, until I found out that the name of the park is Emancipation Park. 

I do not think that a statue of a man who fought vigorously to keep slaves slaves should be in a park named after the freeing of slaves. I find it quite perplexing that the person to developed the park thought that a statue of Lee would be a good fit there.   ???

Anyway, for those of you arguing that we should be keeping these statues to remember history, I could agree with this on an intellectual level.  However, these are not one-off relics in a museum here and there.  The South is peppered with these things in public parks. 

On top of that, many of these monuments were not erected during the civil war or shortly there after.  They were erected in the 1920s, during a time of great social, cultural and religious change in the USA due to an influx of immigration.  They were put there by other white supremacist as a symbolic rejection to other cultures. 
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #247 on: August 15, 2017, 03:18:56 pm »



Abraham Lincoln was a racist.






As for the Lincoln Monument. . . . Burn it down!







Oh wait, he freed the slaves didn't he?


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Re: Trump II
« Reply #248 on: August 15, 2017, 03:53:52 pm »




But he was a member of the Republican party.   He had to be a racist.
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #249 on: August 15, 2017, 05:26:02 pm »



Was that white nationalist driving a sports car? If so, more reason to ban them.

People don't kill people, high horsepower vehicles do.

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #250 on: August 15, 2017, 05:44:34 pm »

Trump is stealing my lines.  Comments he made today regarding Charlottesville riot.

"“Many of those people were there to protest the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee,” Mr. Trump said. “This week, it is Robert E. Lee and this week, Stonewall Jackson. Is it George Washington next? You have to ask yourself, where does it stop?”

He noted that the first American president had owned slaves.

I don't think your lines have extended to saying there were lots of "very fine people" at Nazi rallies, as Trump has just managed to say 😀 The head of the KKK has already tweeted his thanks and approval, btw.
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« Reply #251 on: August 15, 2017, 05:54:25 pm »

I find zero fucking nothing in the least bit humorous about that, do you? Texshooter I suggest you delete that post...I'm reporting it to a moderator.

I think reasonable minds will interpret my post as a satirical jab at extreme gun control advocates, not vehicular homicide.  You're smarter than that. 
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #252 on: August 15, 2017, 06:06:17 pm »

...it says something about you.

Those are fighting words.
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #253 on: August 15, 2017, 06:14:23 pm »



But because this thread is your pleasure, I will delete my post.
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #254 on: August 16, 2017, 01:07:43 am »

When David Duke thanks you, you screwed up "bigly" Donald...

I'm afraid he hasn't screwed up. He's said what he really thinks (amid the usual waffle and lies). The USA is run by a white supremacist and bigot. Recall the campaign talk about Mexicans. Things are likely to get much worse before they get better. America will carry the shame of this man for many years. Still, not too late for some around him to save themselves by leaving before the storm.
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #255 on: August 16, 2017, 02:02:39 pm »

"Uniting" a nation is a difficult concept to define, no doubt. But I'm pretty sure it doesn't include condoning neo-Nazis and the clan.

Well, the leadership's business councils have just disbanded, according to the news. I guess the chiefs of corporate America decided that neo-Nazis are bad for business. I expect the leadership will spin this as a break-up from above but I'd imagine they walked away.
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #256 on: August 17, 2017, 04:37:19 pm »

What does it take to turn one into the other?

This would do it.

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #257 on: August 17, 2017, 05:34:35 pm »

Maybe he's keeping the left and Democrats off balance as he did during the campaign.  While he's focusing on the economy and making America safe, the Democrats are still playing the race card and identity politics.  People still need to feed their families and need jobs, good jobs.  During the next election, no one is going to remember or care about a bunch of bronze statues of dead people sitting on dead horses.  Democrats are staying trapped in the same thinking as during the campaign rather than addressing the real concerns of most Americans as Trump is doing: jobs, debt, terrorism, immigration, health, trade, security.  As long as Republicans and Trump stay focused on these things, Dems will be left on the dock and miss the boat again. 

Bon voyage!

You're bang on with "jobs, debt, terrorism, immigration, health, trade, security" and the media is making an epic mistake by not focusing on this.

But you've picked the wrong guy to deliver them. He's a rage-fuelled demagogue on a one-man mission to exact revenge on the America which elected a black president. Let him carry on and he'll take you to bloodletting and chaos. Even corporate America and the military are stepping away from him now. Nazis are bad for business and they're no good in the Marine Corps either.

Rage isn't a plan. Destruction isn't achievement. The things you list need urgent work for certain sure but they'll never come from this guy. Good luck.
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #258 on: August 17, 2017, 05:54:53 pm »

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #259 on: August 17, 2017, 06:08:47 pm »

How about  Barcelona reality?

More prayer vigils to follow. . . And more terror.

(But not If my vote can help.)

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