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Re: Trump II
« Reply #5900 on: September 01, 2017, 01:10:55 pm »

If you fine them for hiring illegals, more  U.S. corporations will flee to overseas slave markets. Even Trump cannot stop the globalist bankers.  We are either headed for Gattaca or Mad Max.  Either way we're screwed.

Self-sufficiency and a smaller population are the only long-term answer.  We don't need cheaper labor.  We need better robots.


I don't have the figures.  But I would think that most of the illegals are farm hands, construction workers, or work in restaurants and other smaller type businesses.  Those jobs and businesses can't be exported.  Of course, these people take jobs away from Americans.

Larger corporations do "flee" overseas for cheaper labor against keeping production here and using higher cost legal American workers.  Or they import foreigners under work plans such as what Silicon Valley does with Indian engineers to pay less for American jobs.   

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« Reply #5901 on: September 01, 2017, 01:28:07 pm »

... For years, they arrested local drug dealers as if the illegal drug situation was a supply problem and not a demand problem. Did that work?

Well, I suppose if it weren't for all those pesky banks that sprung up all over the place, we wouldn't have a problem with bank robbers.  Maybe we shouldn't jail them either. 

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« Reply #5902 on: September 01, 2017, 03:52:13 pm »

Well, I suppose if it weren't for all those pesky banks that sprung up all over the place, we wouldn't have a problem with bank robbers.  Maybe we shouldn't jail them either.

Cute. But I ask again, did arresting all those drug dealers work?
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« Reply #5903 on: September 01, 2017, 04:42:46 pm »

Cute. But I ask again, did arresting all those drug dealers work?

No better than arresting all those bank robbers.  :)

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« Reply #5904 on: September 01, 2017, 04:54:41 pm »

Well, this was a Fox poll...so, is this a good thing or a bad thing?

Fox News Poll: Candid? Yes. Presidential? Not so much. Voters describe Trump



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President Donald Trump says what he thinks -- a majority agrees on that.  Maybe that’s part of the reason most don’t call him presidential.

The latest Fox News Poll asks voters how well several words and phrases apply to the president.

Trump is most defined by the “says what he thinks” trait.  More than 8-in-10 voters think that describes him “extremely” or “very” well (81 percent).

The only other term a majority agrees fits is “bully” (53 percent).



“For past presidents, the traits that correlate most powerfully with increased support are ‘strong leader’ and ‘compassionate,’” says Republican pollster Daron Shaw, who conducts the Fox News Poll with Democratic counterpart Chris Anderson.

“Trump gets points for candor, but he needs to convince more people he is strong and empathetic.”

“The country’s faced two crises recently, with the racial violence in Charlottesville and Hurricane Harvey in Houston,” says Anderson.

“So far, voters see Trump as sorely lacking the strong, compassionate, moral leadership necessary in these difficult times.”

Too bad they didn't have the term "Big Orange Dummy"...I wonder what percent that would have garnered?
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #5905 on: September 01, 2017, 05:17:26 pm »

The sky isn't falling.  While migration is in the few millions, that's an tiny number compared to the 7+ billion people on earth. 

Also, you're confusing patriotism and nationalism with xenophobia.  Whether in America or Britain, people are loyal to their nation.  Despite the EU, Germans care little about France and the French care little about anyone other then themselves.  Let's get real. 

Regarding Trump, America rejected the corruption, elitism and globalism of the Clintons.  Trump is an nationalist and patriot which used to be considered quality traits for Presidents.  While he cares about others, he puts Americans first.  He replaced Obama who put the world first.  It's what happened with Brexit in your Britain.

Getting real doesn't involve discounting what's before our eyes, Alan. That's what politicians do. If a sprawling coastal city hadn't been built on a floodplain at a time of climate change - not a great idea in retrospect - we wouldn't be so taken up with Harvey. Or with even more devastating floods in Asia. Climate change and failed states are going to drive massive instability and consequent population movements. Things won't just carry on as they have.

Also, Brexit and Trump are not the same. Different folks, different strokes. Brexit will be very damaging, I think, but demographics likely mean that most of the damage will be voted out within a decade as the oldies die off. Young people here generally don't want to damage their life chances with nationalism. It's fuelled war after war in Europe. Why do you think the EC was founded?
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #5906 on: September 01, 2017, 06:36:42 pm »


I'm no economist, but if it's cheaper to make stuff in China, how do we boost our exports without creating an underclass of wage slaves in our own country?

We could lower corporate taxes, but our debt will get worse.
We could tax imports, but that will burden American consumers.
We could tax the rich and spread the love, but there's not enough rich people to go around.
We could relax environmental protections, but we'll all get cancer.

Maybe these guys should have never shaken hands.
Maybe its time for China to free its people and for the West to stop dealing in proxy slavery.
Perhaps we got what we deserve.

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #5907 on: September 01, 2017, 07:01:45 pm »

I'm no economist, but if it's cheaper to make stuff in China, how do we boost our exports without creating an underclass of wage slaves in our own country?

Either make 'better' products with better prices, and/or use import duties (but expect that others will do the same for your products). Another thing could be to sell more 'services' instead of products. Trade agreements can be used to set some game rules.

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« Reply #5908 on: September 01, 2017, 07:09:34 pm »

Brexit and Trump are not the same. Different folks, different strokes. Brexit will be very damaging, I think, but demographics likely mean that most of the damage will be voted out within a decade as the oldies die off. Young people here generally don't want to damage their life chances with nationalism. It's fuelled war after war in Europe. Why do you think the EC was founded?
"Every generation, blames the one before, " - The Living Years - Mike and the Mechanics.

The reality is that opportunities to make real change don't come along that often and you need to use them. They are not on Facebook and Twitter. Brexit and Trump were both elections. All "young" people had to do was not drink so much the night before, put down the selfie stick, get out of bed, and vote. They weren't even compulsory elections and probably only a few votes were needed. Pretty easy to move a result one way or the other really.

The "problem" with "oldies" is that they actually believe that they should vote, so they do.
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #5909 on: September 01, 2017, 07:16:04 pm »

Getting real doesn't involve discounting what's before our eyes, Alan. That's what politicians do. If a sprawling coastal city hadn't been built on a floodplain at a time of climate change - not a great idea in retrospect - we wouldn't be so taken up with Harvey. Or with even more devastating floods in Asia. Climate change and failed states are going to drive massive instability and consequent population movements. Things won't just carry on as they have.

Also, Brexit and Trump are not the same. Different folks, different strokes. Brexit will be very damaging, I think, but demographics likely mean that most of the damage will be voted out within a decade as the oldies die off. Young people here generally don't want to damage their life chances with nationalism. It's fuelled war after war in Europe. Why do you think the EC was founded?

Where I live in New Jersey, it's been about ten degrees cooler for a few weeks than normal for this time in summer. 

Regarding young people and nationalism, when the sh!t hits the fan, economics goes out the window and people reach for guns to defend their land.  The EC is OK as a trade agreement.  But it seems the objection to it is when it steps on individual national rights and power and democracy.   

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #5910 on: September 01, 2017, 07:27:16 pm »

I'm no economist, but if it's cheaper to make stuff in China, how do we boost our exports without creating an underclass of wage slaves in our own country?

We could lower corporate taxes, but our debt will get worse.
We could tax imports, but that will burden American consumers.
We could tax the rich and spread the love, but there's not enough rich people to go around.
We could relax environmental protections, but we'll all get cancer.

Maybe these guys should have never shaken hands.
Maybe its time for China to free its people and for the West to stop dealing in proxy slavery.
Perhaps we got what we deserve.


It is an issue not easily resolved.  The trick is that each country has to be good at certain things.  Since we can't compete on labor cost, we have to focus on things that have high cost but minimal labor to build it.  Cheap goods like clothing is hard to compete with since they're also labor intensive.  Building jet planes and high cost instrumentation are examples where we can compete. 

But it's getting harder and harder.  Frankly, I think what's happened is that overall, a lot of countries can now compete with us in more areas than ever before.  After WWII, there were few.  But things have changed over the years.  We may have to accept a lower standard of living for the middle class especially.  The other issue is that China has stolen most of our military and commercial secrets and design and just copied them.  It's estimate that it's between US$300-$500 billion a year that America loses.  How much if you include Europe and other countries, who knows? 

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #5911 on: September 01, 2017, 08:20:41 pm »

How are we going  to outmuscle the world technologically and  raise our standard of living if Americans are getting dumber?

Perhaps it's  time to scrap the "Give us your poor, your tired,  your huddled masses" beatitude and opt, instead, for a more Darwinian immigration policy.


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Re: Trump II
« Reply #5912 on: September 01, 2017, 08:48:19 pm »

It is an issue not easily resolved.  The trick is that each country has to be good at certain things.  Since we can't compete on labor cost, we have to focus on things that have high cost but minimal labor to build it.  Cheap goods like clothing is hard to compete with since they're also labor intensive.  Building jet planes and high cost instrumentation are examples where we can compete. 

But it's getting harder and harder.  Frankly, I think what's happened is that overall, a lot of countries can now compete with us in more areas than ever before.  After WWII, there were few.  But things have changed over the years.  We may have to accept a lower standard of living for the middle class especially.  The other issue is that China has stolen most of our military and commercial secrets and design and just copied them.  It's estimate that it's between US$300-$500 billion a year that America loses.  How much if you include Europe and other countries, who knows?

Hi Alan,

Indeed, a race for cheap labor cannot be won by 'developed' countries in the West if compared to 'developing' countries, it would amount to a race to the bottom, and to collapse. So that's why I mentioned Better products for Better prices. Just use the cheaper products from elsewhere to improve/leverage local productivity, rather than simply consuming those foreign products.

'Better' could mean 'more environmentally friendly', but alas, your current government declared war on that prospect. Maybe your industry visionaries are more clever than the leadership of your nation before international Carbon taxes become a fact of life.

'Better' could also mean 'more innovative' since such products in the early stages of their product life cycle have better prices (to recoup R&D cost, but also generate profit to fund new R&D). Unfortunately, US education quality is apparently poor enough that foreign workers need to be employed, which is even made more difficult by the current government.

Reducing the level of manufactured, in favor of augmented/assembled 'Raw' products from other sources, can also prove to be profitable.

Increasing the purchasing power of the dwindling middle-class incomes helps to boost the economy. Also, anticipating on the development of the demographic profile of the nation and technology advances can help to focus on opportunities ahead of time instead of in the past (like focusing on e.g. coal mining jobs that have already been replaced by automation and different (surface excavation) technologies). Making better use of the skills of the baby-boom generation, and anticipating on the reduced workforce numbers in a decade (or two/three), reducing cost involve in Medical needs, etc., all normal things a government should be working on (instead spending most of its efforts on getting re-elected), etc., etc.

The list goes on but falls on deaf man's ears, since the current government seems more interested in destructing the prior government's 'achievements' rather than building on them and/or improving them. It also seems to prefer to disrupt international connections, instead of using them wisely.

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #5913 on: September 01, 2017, 10:28:51 pm »

Hi Alan,

Indeed, a race for cheap labor cannot be won by 'developed' countries in the West if compared to 'developing' countries, it would amount to a race to the bottom, and to collapse. So that's why I mentioned Better products for Better prices. Just use the cheaper products from elsewhere to improve/leverage local productivity, rather than simply consuming those foreign products.

'Better' could mean 'more environmentally friendly', but alas, your current government declared war on that prospect. Maybe your industry visionaries are more clever than the leadership of your nation before international Carbon taxes become a fact of life.

'Better' could also mean 'more innovative' since such products in the early stages of their product life cycle have better prices (to recoup R&D cost, but also generate profit to fund new R&D). Unfortunately, US education quality is apparently poor enough that foreign workers need to be employed, which is even made more difficult by the current government.

Reducing the level of manufactured, in favor of augmented/assembled 'Raw' products from other sources, can also prove to be profitable.

Increasing the purchasing power of the dwindling middle-class incomes helps to boost the economy. Also, anticipating on the development of the demographic profile of the nation and technology advances can help to focus on opportunities ahead of time instead of in the past (like focusing on e.g. coal mining jobs that have already been replaced by automation and different (surface excavation) technologies). Making better use of the skills of the baby-boom generation, and anticipating on the reduced workforce numbers in a decade (or two/three), reducing cost involve in Medical needs, etc., all normal things a government should be working on (instead spending most of its efforts on getting re-elected), etc., etc.

The list goes on but falls on deaf man's ears, since the current government seems more interested in destructing the prior government's 'achievements' rather than building on them and/or improving them. It also seems to prefer to disrupt international connections, instead of using them wisely.

Cheers,
Bart

Government does not create wealth.  People do through companies and personal business activities.  Capital investment from private sources and free markets are the engines of wealth and jobs.  If anything, government hurts these things because of taxes, subsidies, regulations and re-distribution of wealth. 

Government's proper use is to create a level playing field and a court system where disagreements between private parties can be resolved.  Government shouldn't play favorites except in security matters like defense.  Even there, competition should be encouraged.  Taxes and regulation should be kept at a minimum.  Deficit spending, borrowing and printing money must be kept low.

If you do these things, America or any country would maximize their country's wealth, create jobs for everyone and drive their economies to highest levels. 

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #5914 on: September 01, 2017, 11:48:25 pm »

So, explain to me how it's NOT a major problem that the president of the United States of America owes a foreign bank hundreds of millions of dollars? How can this NOT be rife with the very strong possibility of conflicts of interests?

Donald Trump owes Deutsche Bank big bucks

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For many years, Deutsche Bank has been among the largest lenders to the real estate empire of Donald Trump. Now that Trump is US president, this relationship has been generating scrutiny - in part because Deutsche has a number of outstanding regulatory issues to resolve with the US federal government.

One of those issues is a Department of Justice investigation into the bank's role in a Russian "mirror-trading" scheme that allowed some Russian oligarchs to trade rubles for dollars and thereby funnel money out of Russia This was a money-laundering scheme designed, in part, to allow oligarchs with close ties to the Kremlin to dodge sanctions imposed on them by the US in the wake of the 2014 Ukraine crisis.

This investigation has nothing to do with Trump - he is not alleged to have had any role in the activities being investigated - but the fact that he is president means that any decisions taken by US federal regulators about Deutsche will provoke questions about conflicts of interest, according to Norman Eisen, who was ethics counsellor in the Obama White House, in a recent interview with the Financial Times (FT).


The Old Post Office Building in Washington DC was redeveloped by the Trump organization into a Trump International
Hotel for about $200 million


"Whether it's the investigation, the regulatory climate [or] a hundred other ways that Deutsche Bank is affected by the federal government, if they have this leverage over Donald Trump now, having seen how he operates, I think it's entirely legitimate to question whether he'll be even-handed," Eisen told FT.

Potential conflict of interests

One might note that it's also legitimate to question whether a former official in the Obama White House like Eisen will be even-handed in commenting on Donald Trump's business affairs. Moreover, the Justice Department is headed by Attorney General Jeff Sessions, not by Donald Trump, so any top-level guidance on how the department should approach its Deutsche Bank file would therefore come from Sessions.

However, Sessions has already come under fire from Trump for what the president sees as Sessions' insufficient loyalty. This has generated Beltway speculation that if Trump were to quietly ask Sessions to go easy on Deutsche, Sessions would have an incentive to go along, in order to avoid further stoking the ire of his mercurial boss.

Trump's financial disclosure data

According to documents called Financial Disclosure Reports submitted by Trump to the US Office of Government Ethics, published the documents in June, Trump owns assets worth billions of dollars within a portfolio of 565 companies. He also had substantial debts - totaling at least $315 million (266 million euros) - in connection with several real estate projects. Most of that money was owed to Deutsche Bank.

According to FT's article, "Deutsche declined to comment on legal matters, the structuring of its loans, the nature of the guarantees or its relationship with Mr Trump. Spokespeople for the Trump Organization did not respond to emails."
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #5915 on: September 02, 2017, 12:07:10 am »

Doooh... heal vs heel? Will he ever learn? Prolly not...learning ain't something that Trump is good at.

Brain genius Donald Trump again misspells “heal,” a monosyllabic word

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The president has suffered withering defeats in his short tenure at the hands of Republican leadership, the U.S. courts, and in some—but not all—of his handshakes with foreign leaders. We can add to that list of foes who have matched wits with the president and found him wanting the category of “monosyllabic words,” in particular the word “heal,” which he has misspelled as “heel” at least three times in the past month. Earlier today, he fired off this missive, a call for unity, extremely presidential, etc.:



A few minutes later, the tweet was corrected...

Donald J. Trump  ✔ @realDonaldTrump
Texas is healing fast thanks to all of the great men & women who have been working so hard. But still so much to do. Will be back tomorrow!
7:58 AM - Sep 1, 2017
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And, of course, it's now a meme...

Evan DeSimone @Smorgasboredom
I'm sure "heel" get the hang of this eventually.
6:56 AM - Sep 1, 2017

Aaron Blake  ✔ @AaronBlake
You might say Trump wants to heel the entire U.S. gov't
7:09 AM - Sep 1, 2017

Anthony De Rosa 🗽  ✔ @Anthony
Heel get it right one of these days.
6:55 AM - Sep 1, 2017

The last time he spewed up the heel spelling was after Charlottesville, when he had to take three cracks at this tweet in order to not spell “heal” as “heel”...



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Re: Trump II
« Reply #5916 on: September 02, 2017, 12:20:35 am »

I predict a real train wreck pretty soon at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. NW.

Forceful Chief of Staff Grates on Trump, and the Feeling Is Mutual


John F. Kelly, the White House chief of staff, has regimented the flow of paper, people and information inundating
an omnivorous and undisciplined President Trump.


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WASHINGTON — President Trump was in an especially ornery mood after staff members gently suggested he refrain from injecting politics into day-to-day issues of governing after last month’s raucous rally in Arizona, and he responded by lashing out at the most senior aide in his presence.

It happened to be his new chief of staff, John F. Kelly.

Mr. Kelly, the former Marine general brought in five weeks ago as the successor to Reince Priebus, reacted calmly, but he later told other White House staff members that he had never been spoken to like that during 35 years of serving his country. In the future, he said, he would not abide such treatment, according to three people familiar with the exchange.

While Mr. Kelly has quickly brought some order to a disorganized and demoralized staff, he is fully aware of the president’s volcanic resentment about being managed, according to a dozen people close to Mr. Trump, and has tread gingerly through the minefield of Mr. Trump’s psyche. But the president has still bridled at what he perceives as being told what to do.

Like every other new sheriff in town Mr. Trump has hired to turn things around at the White House or in his presidential campaign, Mr. Kelly has gradually diminished in his appeal to his restless boss. What is different this time is that Mr. Trump, mired in self-destructive controversies and record-low approval ratings, needs Mr. Kelly more than Mr. Kelly needs him. Unlike many of the men and women eager to work for Mr. Trump over the years, the new chief of staff signed on reluctantly, more out of a sense of duty than a need for affirmation, personal enrichment or fame.

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And he has moved swiftly to dispatch aides he deems unqualified by temperament, experience or credential with a minimum of drama and fuss. Mr. Kelly, people close to the president said, backed the removals of Mr. Bannon, Sebastian Gorka, a flame-throwing White House staff member known more for his cable TV tirades than strategic acumen, and Anthony Scaramucci, the short-lived communications director who self-immolated in an expletive-filled interview with The New Yorker in July.

The chief of staff keeps his own counsel and travels light. He brought over only a small handful of staff members from the Department of Homeland Security, and confides to an even smaller circle, which includes Leon E. Panetta, for whom he served as a top aide when Mr. Panetta was defense secretary in the Obama administration.

But how long Mr. Kelly and the president, two men with such divergent approaches to the common goal of Mr. Trump’s success, will be able to coexist is unclear.

Mr. Kelly has not been talking about it, apart from saying he is committed to stabilizing the staff in the White House.

But one associate who spoke to Mr. Kelly last month said the former commander had remarked that his current assignment was by far the hardest job he had ever had. His favorite gig, he jokes, was his first: Marine grunt.
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #5917 on: September 02, 2017, 12:32:54 am »

Uh ho...president snowflake is suffering from depression? Don't do it Donny!!!

Eric Trump Warns That Your Criticism Is Depressing Trump And Making Him Suicidal



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During a radio interview, Eric Trump discussed the mental instability of his father by saying that the President Of The United States has to tune out criticism or else he would commit suicide.

During a radio interview, Eric Trump discussed the mental instability of his father by saying that the President Of The United States has to tune out criticism or else he would commit suicide.

Audio of interview



Eric Trump said, “It’s the media, the mainstream media, who does not want him to succeed. It’s government who does not want him to succeed. People who are very comfortable in their white marble offices in Washington, DC who he compromises and he threatens in some way, shape or form/ They’ve never had to deal with somebody who’s an outsider who won’t put up with nonsense, and this is the result no matter what he does, he’s going to get hit, and listen, I think you have to tune it out. You obviously have to be tuned into it because you have to know what’s being said, but at the same time you have to take it all with a grain of salt, and you know, if they weren’t talking about you, you wouldn’t be doing something right and it’s important to keep it in context, otherwise quite frankly you’d probably end up killing yourself out of depression.”
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #5918 on: September 02, 2017, 12:44:05 am »

This is what the Defense Secretary James Mattis thinks...

Mattis to US troops: 'Hold the line until our country gets back to respecting each other'



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Defense Secretary James Mattis gave a pep talk to U.S. troops stationed abroad during his trip to three countries last week.

In a video that has recently surfaced on social media, Mattis is seen speaking to U.S. troops in an unknown location. In his remarks to the troops, Mattis said the U.S. is facing “problems.”

“Our country right now, it’s got problems we don’t have in the military,” Mattis said. “You just hold the line until our country gets back to understanding and respecting each other and showing it.”

Mattis said the U.S. has “two powers” — “inspiration” and “intimidation.”
“We’ve got the power of intimidation, and that’s you, if someone wants to screw with our families, our country and our allies,” Mattis said. “The power of inspiration — [and] we’ll get the power of inspiration back.”

He also thanked the troops for their service and said he came out of retirement to “serve alongside young people like you who are so selfless and, frankly, so rambunctious.”

Yep, the general is right...we got problems right now...just hold on till we can fix this crap!
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #5919 on: September 02, 2017, 01:01:52 am »

Kushners’ China Deal Flop Was Part of Much Bigger Hunt for Cash



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Jared Kushner, Donald Trump’s son-in-law and top adviser, wakes up each morning to a growing problem that will not go away. His family’s real estate business, Kushner Cos., owes hundreds of millions of dollars on a 41-story office building on Fifth Avenue. It has failed to secure foreign investors, despite an extensive search, and its resources are more limited than generally understood. As a result, the company faces significant challenges.

Over the past two years, executives and family members have sought substantial overseas investment from previously undisclosed places: South Korea’s sovereign-wealth fund, France’s richest man, Israeli banks and insurance companies, and exploratory talks with a Saudi developer, according to former and current executives. These were in addition to previously reported attempts to raise money in China and Qatar.

The family, once one of the largest landlords on the East Coast, sold thousands of apartments to finance its purchase of the tower in 2007 and has borrowed extensively for other purchases. They are walking away from a Brooklyn hotel once considered central to their plans for an office hub. From other properties, they are extracting cash, including tens of millions in borrowed funds from the recently acquired former New York Times building. What’s more, their partner in the Fifth Avenue building, Vornado Realty Trust, headed by Steve Roth, has stood aside, allowing the Kushners to pursue financing on their own.

Kushner Cos. says it will prevail. Laurent Morali, the president, said the company has a variety of contingency plans for the building and its broader portfolio will allow it to sustain any setback. He said he is encouraged by the interest of several potential investors, but declined to name them.

“Reports that portray it as a distressed situation are just not accurate for the building or for the company,” Morali said in an interview on the 15th floor of the building, 666 Fifth Avenue.

But there are challenges all around. The mortgage on their tower is due in 18 months. This has led to concerns that Kushner could use—or has perhaps already used—his official position to prop up the family business despite having divested to close relatives his ownership in many projects to conform with government ethics requirements. Federal investigators are examining Kushner’s finances and business dealings, along with those of other Trump associates, as they probe possible collusion between the Kremlin and the Trump campaign. Kushner has already testified twice before closed congressional committees and denies mixing family business with his official role.

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Federal investigators know that Kushner met with then-Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak in Trump Tower last December and later met with Sergey Gorkov, head of the Kremlin-controlled VEB bank in two meetings that he didn’t, at first, disclose publicly or on his application for his national-security clearance. After those meetings became public, Kushner and the White House said the contacts were made in his role as a Trump adviser and didn’t involve discussion of his family business. But VEB and a spokesman for Russian President Vladimir Putin described the meetings quite differently, noted Adam Schiff of California, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee. They said that Kushner was there in his capacity as head of his family’s real estate business. Investigators say they are studying those accounts with keen interest.

“I think it is part of a pattern of outreach to Russian financial interests, which are essentially Vladimir Putin and his oligarch circle, by Trump family members,” said Senator Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut, a Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee. “The financial dealings are important because we know that the Russian playbook is to engage and compromise foreign leaders.” He added, “Whether this meeting and contact are significant remains to be understood.” —With assistance from Billy House and Steven T. Dennis.

Again with Russia? And nobody else sees this as a real problem?
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